Crash the Tea Party!

@dragon54u (31636)
United States
April 10, 2010 5:21pm CST
I heard about this site on the radio yesterday. Crash the teap party dot org is a site that encourages people to infiltrate Tea Party organizations and hold up misspelled signs, make outrageous claims when the media is present, etc. They propose any NON violent action that will disrupt the Tea Party and destroy the movement. I went to the site and was very disappointed to see that many people who heard about the same site are there trashing it on the message boards. The site's owners say the Tea Party is racist, homophobic and out to destroy the country. What must they think now, when people they must assume come from the TP are there trashing their message board? This is horrible behavior and just serves to reinforce the site's perception of the TP as a bunch of yahoos with ill intentions. I'm ashamed of Sean Hannity, who gave out the link and told his listeners to "go have fun". I agree with much of what the TP stands for but this kind of behavior is disgusting. What happened to letting everyone speak their mind unmolested?
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@ElicBxn (60895)
• United States
10 Apr 10
sounds to me like this site is advocating just what they are now getting from the people they were going after - turn about's fair play
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
10 Apr 10
No Elic, two wrongs do not make a right. Stooping to their level is self destructive and damages the TP.
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@ElicBxn (60895)
• United States
11 Apr 10
What it comes down to is that the left can be mean and play dirty tricks, but the right is supposed to be too good for this stuff? I don't know what they are saying on the site, but I'll bet its giving them a heads up that the right is on to them and maybe they need to re-think what they are advocating - at least they aren't getting out into their rallies and trying to make them look bad. (tho honestly, how bad can they look beyond what they already do?)
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@Maggiepie (7821)
• United States
11 Apr 10
Honestly, I agree with Elic. I see this as no different than, e.g., ripping up Planned ExParenthood's crud I get in my snail mail & mailing it back to them in their pre-paid envelope, or even calling their 1-800 number & running up their bill. It's satisfying, it costs them money, & they're evil, so they deserve to be fought in every way legally possible. I hope this stupid site gets overwhelmed by people putting in their 2 cents (sans swear words), & have it crash. People who LIE about tea party folks who are decent people being slandered by the "President" & his media minions deserve whatever they get. Shame on those frauds for using such vile tricks. "Turnabout is fair play!" You play dirty, expect dirty back. Now that I know it exists, I'm going to give them an earful! Thanks for the heads up! Maggiepie YOUR TOPIC DOESN'T HAVE A HOME? TRY THE "OPEN MIKE" CATEGORY! DISCUSS ANY & EVERYTHING--2 TOPICS OR MORE AT ONCE!
@irisheyes (4373)
• United States
10 Apr 10
Well, you can take it from this Liberal Democrat that it won't be us sabotaging the Tea Party movement. Wwe don't really care that much other than supporting your rights to express yourselves freely. As long as our boy in the White House continues to steer the course and better the economy, we know we don't have a damn thing to worry about. However, I'd like to repeat that we do respect your righe to express your opinions. We would never sabotage that.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
10 Apr 10
That's as it should be, and we respect your right to voice yours. Fighting like what is going on at that website is disgusting.
• United States
11 Apr 10
BOY in the White House? That's about right since he's playing games with everything that made our country great and is slowly destroying all the toys one at a time.
• United States
11 Apr 10
Dragon54u - Maybe we use fewer expletives here on mylot, but lets not pretend we haven't had our own flamewars over politics. (I am speaking on a broad level). If you find the fighting on that website disgusting, take a look at some of the stuff that occurs here, on a moderated site. Mylotters are no angels either. Mysticmaggie - I am guessing you are upset when Obama fights for things like a century old rule that disallows companies from making unlimited political contributions that the Supreme Court overturned this year. That was a rule that made our country great, and Obama has told Congress they have to do something to get it back in place. He is not the one destroying anything. He is the one strong enough to fight the big corporations and their money, and their puppets and pets in congress. As long as we have him in the White House, which I am confident will last until 2016, we don't have a damn thing to worry about.
@dark_joev (3043)
• United States
11 Apr 10
If they want to stop the tea party all they really need to do is what anonymous is doing to the church of Scientology slowly take it down one leader at a time. Shouldn't be to hard as Sarah Palin is in the lot. That right there can bring an org down to it knees because the tea parties do have chapters with leaders as groups like anonymous don't so it just needs to take that sort of feel to it and they could slowly dismantle the group at the max or at the very least get the news to report both sides of the argument.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
11 Apr 10
"get the news to report both sides of the argument." HA!! The media is so corrupted that nobody can get the truth from a story and I suspect most of the important stories aren't even reported. I hope the TP thrives. I believe in them and what they have to say and it was a mistake to let ANY politician speak at their rallies.
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• United States
11 Apr 10
Dragon - You speak of the tea party as if it is some majestic mythological creature. You say you believe in them and what they have to say. So, why don't you name exactly what you support in them, and we'll see if it holds any water. I find the majority of them under-educated, very divisive, greatly misinformed, susceptible to group think, etc. I actually prefer the constitutionalists who actually know what they are talking about, and not these random splinter groups who rally together in a huge collaborated mess.
@dark_joev (3043)
• United States
13 Apr 10
I think that the Tea Parties have lost there grassroots and have become mindless drones for the extreme right to distroy like they have done to the GOP. I think what people need to realize is that this country when put into a huge giant group will not support a far left or far right view as both views would damage the very fabric of the United States. I think that Neocons need to realize that they are damaging the country by spreading there messages of hate and fear.
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@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
11 Apr 10
Well, no one has the right to speak their mind without dissent. When you slander people like that (calling them racist and homophobic), you shouldn't expect people to sit back and be okay with it. Are there racists and homophobes in the group? More than likely. Are they all like that? Not likely. Quite frankly I've given up on the Tea Party. I think it's a lost cause, but I won't suffer a person to slander the whole group unfairly without speaking up.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
11 Apr 10
There are racists and homophobes everywhere, no matter where you go. Look at Chris Matthews, a progressive leaning newscaster/editorialist. He actually said on national TV that for a time during one of Mr. Obama's speeches, he forgot that the president was black! I was thinking OMG, when will people finally be color blind and what an asinine thing to say. So you have those people everywhere, even when they don't mean to be. I hope the Tea Party is not a lost cause, they are doing good work and making people aware of how corrupt our government has become. But I would hope that they could dissent in a civil manner.
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• United States
11 Apr 10
The general tea party is just a mix of random people screaming and shouting and driven by misinformation and mass hysteria. The tea party should be dismantled, and trim the fat, and keep the good guys from the party. Like people who are honest, and just, and constitutionalists, and show a genuince concern for everyone in society. You need to get rid of the nuttier people; I would just abandon that party entirely and start a constitutionalist party and not allow the crazed loons in it - let them stay in the tea party.
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@epicure35 (2822)
• United States
11 Apr 10
Typical liberal, radical tactics like those you describe are the bailiwick of our current, corrupt, unconstitutional "government". The only way they can "succeed" is through deception and name-calling. Obama has made a "career" of besmirching and sullying others, while having his gangster supporters threaten and intimidate anyone who would speak out the truth about his very dirty, treacherous dealings. Name-calling, whining liberals don't allow anyone their own opinion, or even rights, if they disagree with the liberal agenda. Liberal tyrants will never allow people to "speak their minds" if they can actually think for themselves and not buy the liberal party line. They can't stand up to truth in any form.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
11 Apr 10
I agree, but that's no reason to use their tactics when fighting against them.
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• United States
11 Apr 10
If you will look at the site, Epicure, it shows they are members of BOTH the liberal party, and the republican party.
@spalladino (17925)
• United States
10 Apr 10
Well, dragon, thuggery is running amuck these days so this doesn't really surprise me. I also agree with much of what the Tea Party stands for...went to a great rally where we all came together as a peaceful, rational group. But, now it seems that there is a very clear and distinct form of behavior coming from one side of the political aisle. These people are loud, they are destructive, they threaten violence, they encourage others to behave badly and, apparently, the only folks entitled to free speech and opinions, are them.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
10 Apr 10
Isn't it sad what we've come to in this country? That kind of behavior is so destructive.
@spalladino (17925)
• United States
10 Apr 10
Right now, dragon, yes...the loudest and most vile seem to believe that their behavior is okay because, according to them, they are the righteous and everyone else is evil and hates this country.
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• United States
12 Apr 10
This is nothing new. ACORN and other groups have been trying to derail the tea party for a while now. Has not worked so far. Won't work now. They are a force to deal with wether both sides like it or not. Which I think both sides don't. The republican party has learned they can't control them...the democrats know they won't vote for them. So both sides would just LOVE them to go away. But it won't happen. It just keeps getting stronger and stronger. Good Luck to anyone showing up to cause trouble. You will need it.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
12 Apr 10
I know the republicans have been trying to take it over and use it and I'm glad they haven't succeeded. I think something like the Tea Party is long overdue and I'm happy that they are not selling out.
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@sulynsi (2836)
• Canada
10 Apr 10
What is a Tea Party organization, dragon? I've never heard of it.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
10 Apr 10
The Tea Party is a grass roots movement that is loosely organized with no central headquarters, made up of people who object to the direction our government is taking--more control, ignoring the Constitution of the country and grabbing power over private enterprise. They believe in peaceful protest and the power of the vote. In November when a lot of our Congress and Senate comes up for re-election, the TP is encouraging everyone to vote out the people already there because they have gone against their constituents. There's a lot more, but that's it in a nutshell.
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@sulynsi (2836)
• Canada
11 Apr 10
Ah, I see. I guess the "Tea Party" references the Boston Tea Party, which as I recall from my American history course, was the "little people' protesting taxation without representation. If you insist on ruling without properly representing us, we will toss YOU in the "harbour"? Thank you for explaining. It is a very interesting manifestation of an aspect of the Daniel prophecy.
• United States
11 Apr 10
I am afraid that dragon left out some of the radical things and divisive thinking the majority of the tea party partakes in. That is the lot more she has left out. These are not good people on a whole. About one in every 10,000 or so make sense, but generally, they are nutcases, and rather hateful in general, and misdirect their anger.
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• United States
10 Apr 10
I guess that as long as we still have "Freedom of Speech" we have to accept the fact that there are just as many ignorant nut cases out there as sensible sane people.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
10 Apr 10
I guess so. There will always be boorish people on both sides, I'm just disappointed that the people who want to help the Tea Party are making it look bad.
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• United States
11 Apr 10
And yet it seems that no matter what the other side does, no matter how low they sink, no matter what nasty name calling they do, no matter how vicious their tactics are, they can still tell people they are working in their best interests and get away with it! Amazing.
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• United States
11 Apr 10
The irony is you don't recognize your side as the nut cases.
@K46620 (1996)
• United States
12 Apr 10
I agree with you. The good, grassroots tea parties are being turned into another sideshow partisan event. Politicians were once afraid of the tea parties. That's when they were the most effective.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
12 Apr 10
A great quote from Thomas Jefferson: When the people fear the government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people there is liberty. Time to put the fear back into our "leaders"!
@K46620 (1996)
• United States
12 Apr 10
Very fitting quote
• United States
12 Apr 10
I am all for peaceful protests, and standing up for people. But, the tea party has made themselves a traveling sideshow when the majority of them say the most absurd things and have the most outrageous signs. If there are good guys in the tea party, and I do believe a very small percent are good, they would have the know-how and smarts to distinct themselves from the lunatics by bowing out of the tea party and making their own.
@laglen (19782)
• United States
10 Apr 10
I understand the need for debate. I understand the need to get your word out. I understand the need to communicate to other people your stance. But really, the website itsekf is doing exactly what you are accusing tea party people of doing to them. This is just stupid. disrupt the Tea Party and destroy the movement what the hell? why is that ok but trashing their message boardis not? Every body needs to stop and grow the heck up!
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
10 Apr 10
Yes, everyone needs to grow up. Two wrongs don't make a right and stooping to their level is very destructive.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
11 Apr 10
agreed two wrongs do not make a right but three lefts do.
@spalladino (17925)
• United States
11 Apr 10
That and a bottle of tequila will have you going in circles all night.
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• United States
11 Apr 10
I find it kind of funny - it reminds me of The Billionaires. It's just a satire, and what has been flashed all over tv anyway - you really wouldn't be able to tell the difference if there were saboteurs infiltrating the tea party movement. They already have people with misspelled signs, and already have people making outrageous claims when the media is present. I like the idea of letting people speak their mind unmolested, but that goes for the dems and republicans, too. They have been uber edited on talk shows and regular news channels, etc. To be entirely fair - I have to admit there are some logical, rational, and intelligent tea partiers, some of whom I have befriended, but, on an overall level, the ones out in the streets are making themselves laughing stocks. It also reminds me of the movie "Yes men" in which two men somehow crashed meetings discussing trade, and they were imposters, and they came up with really outlandish ideas of how to make more profit, and the people around them employing unethical trade believed all their ideas. Hardly any one caught on, it was hilarious.
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• United States
11 Apr 10
* I think Sean Hannity gave out the link so the tea partiers could defend themselves.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
11 Apr 10
No, he didn't give it out so they could defend themselves. He gave it out and said, "go have fun", he knew exactly what would happen. If I could, I would attend every rally. Unfortunately, I'm not bad enough for a wheelchair but I can't stand for long without pain so I'm unable to go. I believe in the Tea Party and think they have a lot of good points. The media is corrupt so we will never get any unbiased reporting and that goes for Fox news, too.
• United States
11 Apr 10
Most of what Fox news does is commentary and they tell you that. The other 'news' stations do not bill themselves as commentators, but insist they are the real news, even when they are so lopsided in their coverage, if they were ships, they would have sunk long ago. But, then again, if you look at the numbers, while Fox rides the waves with ease because it has a monstrous growth of viewers, the other stations ARE sinking. They hit an iceberg - it's called people thoroughly fed up with left-wing bias to the extreme.
@bestboy19 (5482)
• United States
12 Apr 10
"Crash the tea party dot org is a site that encourages people to infiltrate Tea Party organizations and hold up misspelled signs, make outrageous claims when the media is present, etc. They propose any NON violent action that will disrupt the Tea Party and destroy the movement." I think that proves the accusations made against the tea party, before the health care vote, were lies. It also proves the liberals have no debate to stand on.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
12 Apr 10
Yes, and they're trying their best to defeat the TP. The media won't cover TP events and there have been efforts to incite violence, though rare, at some events. Our voices are being heard, even if we are being ignored. I hope that changes soon, it's time the government realizes that we are the boss and they are the servants.
• United States
12 Apr 10
Are you expecting the media to go to every single tea party meeting? I have seen all sorts of things about the tea party through several different mediums (news, newspapers, internet, radio, talkshows, etc.) The media, is in fact, covering them. If the tea party is not advancing or mobilizing or taken seriously, that is their own fault.
@mimiang (3777)
• Philippines
12 Apr 10
I saw it in other networks and I can't understand what it is
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
12 Apr 10
The Tea Party is a loosely organized group that objects to our government stealing our liberties and ignoring our Constitution. They are under fire from all sides and are pretty much ignored by our corrupt media.
• United States
12 Apr 10
They tea party may embody some constitutionalists, but for the most part is a concoction of random splinter groups with random agendas, armed with a lot of misinformation.
• United States
12 Apr 10
Umm... aren't you arguing against yourself? You say that these people are going to go disrupt Tea Parties, and then you say that Tea party-ers shouldn't disrupt those on this forum because everyone should be able to "speak their mind unmolested"? What DO you believe? I am a proud Tea party attender. :)
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
12 Apr 10
I consider myself a Tea Partyer even though I'm unable to go to their functions. I admire them and am proud of what they are doing. I'm just appalled at the incivility those people brought to that forum. I don't know if they are members of the TP or not but I think people should be able to express themselves and have people react in a civil manner, not the thuggery I see from parts of the left or the ones planning to crash the TP. Stooping to their level doesn't exactly make conservatives or the TP look good.
• United States
12 Apr 10
Dragon - I am not part of the tea party crew; on a lump sum I am further left and don't agree with anything they say, but, if you are truly passionate about this, and really believe in the good they could do, why not disassociate from the party which is becoming a laughing stock, and join some diplomatic constitutionalist party somewhere? I would like to reiterate - the republicans are involved in this site, too, and, they could stand to lose if the tea party actually mobilizes. You keep saying free speech, and don't molest the truth, etc. Be truthful that the people crashing are not just the left wing. If the republicans can not puppeteer the tea party, they will join forces with the left side, and try to dismantle it, because they do not want the competition.
• United States
11 Apr 10
Excellent question. And it is one we might ask the non-teaparty group, especially our Congressional people who seem to be leading the charge to destroy any credibility the tea party people have. You are quite right in thinking it is wrong for the readers to slam the tea party crashers, but, on the other hand, don't they, too, have the freedom of expression and speech?? The thing is, if we are truly a nation of free speech, then the ones we disagree with have just as much right to THEIR opinions as those we agree with. Sadly, most people see it as the ones we agree with have the right to free speech and so does everyone else - as long as they agree with us, too. It is our job and a doozie of a job it is, to look through the rabble rousers and see the real messages being sent and decide if the messages are something we can and do believe in. Even Hannity has the right to say what he will, although I get the feeling this government is working very hard behind the scenes to make certain that soon no one will have that right.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
11 Apr 10
The crash people probably don't realize what they are doing to bring down free speech--or maybe they do! You are right, our government is working to squash our right to free speech--even Bush did it, with segregated zones for protesters. The problem is stooping to the level of the rabble rousers, it makes the TP look very bad and is not effective.
• United States
11 Apr 10
The tea party does a fine enough job discrediting themselves.
@gewcew23 (8011)
• United States
10 Apr 10
As to the owner of the crash the tea party website, if the tea party movement does not matter then why do you bother? As to Sean Hannity and his wing of the movement they were late comers to the party, so in a way they were the original party crashers.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
10 Apr 10
Yes, and what's worse is that the Republicans are edging their way into the TP. It's a shame we can't all behave in a civil manner and discuss things rationally.