Your school and not your experience and skills determines your salary

Philippines
May 31, 2010 10:01am CST
I've been teaching for 5 years. Unfortunately, the academy where i used to work closed. So, I decided to apply in another academy. While waiting for the manager to entertain me and another applicant, we talked. She's 21, fresh-grad,no experience, her major wasn't even related to the position she applied but she graduated from a top university whereas I graduated from the province. Guess what, her salary is way higher than mine. I didn't complain anything to my boss because she's such a nice girl. I was just wondering, is this fair?
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15 responses
• Philippines
31 May 10
I certainly agree!!the bigger the school's name is...The higher the salary..
• Philippines
31 May 10
Hi decemae! Thanks. Lucky for those who can afford to study in top universities. Bad for those people who have brilliant minds but are deprived financially to study in these institutions. It's really a sad reality.. And not only this, students from these top universities also look down on us. It is what it is...
• Philippines
31 May 10
yes, really.. It depends upon the university you've come from. I hate the fact that some students look down on to those other students who are in lower rank universities, Lucky for them because they aren't deprived financially.
@qianyun6 (2069)
• China
31 May 10
Because both of you are new there, school is a more objective reference for your boss to judge your ability. Experience and skills are hard to judge. If you really do excellent job with your skills and experience, your salary will rise soon.
• Philippines
31 May 10
Yeah, we're both new regardless of experience, therefore we should start at the same level of salary. My teaching demo was better and I gave her some advice for her demo as well.. She even told me that she didn't have any idea on what to do. But I kept my mouth shut because she's nice.
@jeanieous (107)
• Philippines
1 Jun 10
I think it is fair. The higher the university, the higher the standard is but of course, it is up from the student's performance.
• Philippines
1 Jun 10
Well, that's really how real life works. You are lucky that you have a job, some companies, they don't even screen applicants coming from unknown schools, or if the school is not on the top 5. There are really companies which have ridiculous HR policies, but what can we do right? That's just really the way it is.
@Cutie18f (9563)
• Philippines
1 Jun 10
People do have prejudices regarding certain schools. That is why some parents would want to send their children to expensive schools because they think that this would give them a better break in the future. The reputation of the school where you finished your degree does seem to carry weight in job-hunting. It is a general belief that when you come from a good school, then you must be a good material for the position. It isn't fair but this is what is happening now.
• United States
1 Jun 10
I understand your frustration. My husband was just turned down for a good job because he doesn't have a degree. He has all of the certification, licenses and 4 years experience but because he never did the official book work they turned him down. The man who was doing the hiring for the job kept apologizing to him. He would have hired my husband said he has the experience he would love to hire as well as all the training but the company insists on a degree which he was upset about since he then had to hire an out of college person with no experience and who the company had to send to school to get the licenses my husband already has! Very aggravating and in this case a little scary as my husband deals with hazardous materials and the fact that someone with no experience will get the job working with the waste from a nuclear power plant is just scary.
@med889 (5958)
1 Jun 10
I am law student however I have more than two years of experience in the job field, I went to many interviews and I have not gotten the job,they tell me either I am too young for the post or I am with little experience. My friends who have barely gotten a degree and with no experience at all is working there, so this is to tell you that the system is not very good.
@joan2010 (45)
• China
1 Jun 10
For greenhand the empployer may first condider the education,but for the experienced people they may take experience and ability as the most important matters.But things don't always go this way,there are exception.Good company and academy always consider the ability that apply knowledge to pratice the most important matter.
• Philippines
1 Jun 10
If you apply to a big company or a nice school,the first thing they will see is the school where you came from. Many believe that if an applicant came from good school, they have a lot and advance knowledge in their expertise. But not all company and schools hire them. There are a lot of applicants there even are better than the one who came from good school.
@ohiocy (215)
• Malaysia
1 Jun 10
Nope, it definitely is not fair. But I hope that you will not let this thing get to you because once it starts to get to you then it will affect your attitude towards your job. And once the attitude starts to be affected negatively it will definitely be no good. Just keep it cool and press on with your own target. Stay strong :)
@TheAdvocate (2395)
• Philippines
31 May 10
It is a sad commentary on the state of our education. Employers put premium on the school where you graduated. It's branding pure and simple, much like a handbag or shoes.
• Philippines
31 May 10
That's the sad reality we have to face nowadays. The skills and capabilities we acquire aren't enough to impress our boss. Sometimes, it's not even the knowledge, educational attainment or the institution we graduated that matters. It's the person we know or who referred a certain applicant that matters.
@kquiming (2999)
• Philippines
31 May 10
It is such a vain world, isn't it? Just because a person graduates from one of the top universities, people tend to judge them to be better that those who "only graduated" from universities in the province. It's the manager's discretion that I really would like to criticize. I personally think the best way to measure a teacher's ability to teach and how much knowledge he/she has on the subject, is to conduct a teaching demo that covers fundamental and advanced topics related to the subject to be taught. Nothing's perfectly accurate that could gauge his / her skills (and the right amount of salary hehe), but this could be the best bet. But in the end of it, it's still the manager's decision that counts. If only all people in that position would judge fairly, reasonably, and wisely....
• Philippines
31 May 10
This is true. I know it's unfair, but companies have their prejudices. But if I were a hiring manager and if it were up to me to choose between the school where the applicant graduated and experience as factors in determining an employees salary, I'd put more premium on experience. Why? We don't use half of what we learned in school at work. Experience teaches you a lot more than all the lectures that you've listened to, put together. Experience teaches you lessons that really matter.
• Philippines
31 May 10
Apparently yes, it is fair for them but it's not for me though. I'm sure it isn't for you too but i guess they're taking into consideration the school where one graduated cuz of the quality of education provided by that school but i've heard of some less popular school having more strict teaching than a more popular school. :(