Kids cant clean toilets?

@laglen (19783)
United States
June 15, 2010 8:51am CST
Students in the Bronx were forced to clean toilets as a part of their punishment. http://bronx.ny1.com/content/top_stories/120391/claim--bronx-students-forced-to-clean-school-toilets It does not say what the crime was or why it is so wrong for the kids to help clean their school. If you know more please help me understand. Also, if you know why they shouldnt have been cleaning toilets. I see nothing wrong with the punishment.
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@hofferp (4739)
• United States
15 Jun 10
I see nothing wrong with the "punishment", in fact, I think they should make kids "learn janitorial 101" so the kids have an incentive to finish school... (not that all janitors don't have an education...choice). Besides as homeowners/renters, they're going to have to clean toilets...make it a part of Home Economics or Hygiene. And after cleaning toilets, they may not be so quick to p*ss all over the toilet and actually hit the bowl.
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@laglen (19783)
• United States
15 Jun 10
lmao! Great points. I see nothing wrong with it, it has to be done and they are the ones that use it!
@hofferp (4739)
• United States
15 Jun 10
We had to clean toilets as kids...and it wasn't punishment...it was Saturday chores. And if you wanted an allowance, you cleaned toilets...and waxed the wood floors and did the dishes and....
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@laglen (19783)
• United States
15 Jun 10
yep, but watch that video and you would think they were having to build the dam things!
• Canada
15 Jun 10
It might sound like a fair punishment BUT.....yeah theres a but to my way of thinking. I remember my dad telling me he and his brothers had to shovel the snow in the winter or mop the floors at school.....not because they were bad students or made trouble but because they were of Italian origin. The teacher hated Italians. So it might sound like a good idea but Im sure it'll be abused and as far as Im concerned, I wouldnt let it happen if it were my kids. I can show them how to wash toilets at home and Id hate the idea of my kids having to wash a dirty, soiled public toilet. Have them do something relevant like writing a story or doing math.
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@laglen (19783)
• United States
15 Jun 10
would the crime matter?
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• Canada
15 Jun 10
If its something illegal, well Im thinking the law will take care of them, not the school. We're talking about kids here, are we? Well if "kids" did something wrong at school, punish them according to the school curriculum. Like I said, have them do maths for 2 hrs after school, make them do homework, not cleaning ..besides, Im not sure how they could have kids do the cleaning. Here our janitors are part of the Union and anyone NOT in the Union couldnt do the work. Why cant they make them do maths.....I remember staying after school and doing extra homework.....God I hated it, tried to be "nice" so I wouldnt have to stay again. As for cleaning, shouldnt the parents be the ones to teach their kids how to? I know my mom did. I knew all about cleaning and cooking when I left home.
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@laglen (19783)
• United States
15 Jun 10
what if they vandalized the bathroom?
@skysuccess (8882)
• Singapore
15 Jun 10
laglen, This is just some of the ridiculous laws imposed by the government and education ministries to protect children from being abuse. But, they are actually restricting the necessary disciplinary action for student misconduct. These laws while they may serve their purpose but schools will be at wits end when they come across defiant students. So, if a decent punishment like cleaning the toilet can be found a criminal act then I can only more students getting expelled in the future which I think can be really catastrophic. I just hate to see the coming of such a day.
@laglen (19783)
• United States
15 Jun 10
I agree with you 100%! This is a totally humane and fitting punishment. Goodness, no wonder we are creating criminals and sissys. Not to mention government leeches.
• Singapore
15 Jun 10
laglen, Just to add and it is true. Students today are shouting back, beating up and even outraging the modesty of their school teachers. And, neither the teachers nor the schools could do anything about these students - other than expelling them and have them sent to some correction homes. At least, when corporal punishment was around, students would be punished, counseled and monitored accordingly. Now, it is like free for all session and teachers just could not teach properly without having to look over their shoulders.
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@laglen (19783)
• United States
15 Jun 10
sky - you are absolutely right! It is society's fault. Kids are NOt accountable for their behavior anymore. Just look at our politicians. Shhesh
• Mexico
16 Jun 10
HI laglen: I don't see nothing bad in their punishment either. Maybe for some parents it's a really heavy work for their "little angels" to make them clean the toilets but I think it's ok and basically they are teaching them with this punishment to care for their school and how it looks. I think this punishment it's not an abuse and in fact, someone has to clean the toilets in a school. THanks for sharing with us these news. Have a nice day. ALVARO
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• United States
16 Jun 10
oh,now you wouldn't want the petite royalty to soil their hands now,would you? nope,they can't do that type of stuff to kids anymore. humiliation,health hazard,child labor,lawsuits..the whole 9 yards. i personally would have traded 1 day of cleaning over suspension/detention/whatever,but that's just me.(tho i'd be wanting gloves to do so.god knows what's on those toilets)
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@laglen (19783)
• United States
16 Jun 10
I agree and I see nothing wrong with the kids cleaning. That could save money on custodial work...
@epicure35 (2822)
• United States
16 Jun 10
I do not think that this punishment was within the bailiwick of the school disciplinary authority. Not knowing what the infraction was makes it a little more difficult to understand. I'm not against students cleaning their school as long as their health is protected, gloves, maybe gauze masks, depending what kind of cleaning is involved. But, cleaning toilets can be a bit much, given health considerations.
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@laglen (19783)
• United States
16 Jun 10
What about the janitor? At any rate, I agree, it is very hard to judge this with out knowing more. Like what the infraction was, what were the circumstances...
@asep988 (92)
• Indonesia
16 Jun 10
Hm, for me it's depend on the acts that student had done. I think cleaning the toilet is not a big deal. It can give the positive things both to the school to become clean and for the punished student to understand the meaning of responsibility.
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@laglen (19783)
• United States
16 Jun 10
I agree but I would like to know what they did