Getting sss, tin, and other legal docs in the Philippines

Philippines
June 17, 2010 3:44am CST
Why????? The line is soooo longgg... I helped my son apply for sss and tin and let me tell you, it's tiring. Actually, we're still not done. You have to fall in line, then wait for your number to be called, then submit your papers and then wait again. And you know, the people working in the gov. office are not helpful to teenagers. They just look at the docs and if something is wrong they will not explain why and move on. Heller... These are teenagers they should give specific reasons what needs to be done. It's good I was there. I've seen some who just went home and didn't even know why they couldn't get their sss. Well for us, next is the tin, nbi and police clearance. Gosh..... Hopefully someday for our future generation, when they get their birth certificate their sss, tin and phil. health are already included. Such a waste of time really. ;)
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10 responses
@knicnax (2234)
• Philippines
17 Jun 10
It's because of: 1. There are too many people who wants to get theirs but too few employees to process the requests 2. There are people who'd rather "cheat" their way through by asking help from a "kakilala". This is a form of corruption, mind you. You are taking advantage of the power of someone you know for your advantage, and if you're the kakilala, you are using the power given to you in an unjust manner. 3. Government employees have low morale. They have a low salary, and they think they don't deserve that salary, so they don't work properly. It's funny-ly stupid. If they think they deserve more, why not get out of that job and find one that pays the salary they think they deserve!, or better yet, do you your job properly, lessen the hassle and emotional baggage! 4. Some applicants are too lazy to read. Most of the Instructions are either written on the form or posted on the walls. sheesh! With that said, (sorry about the ranting too.) It's a good idea to accompany your son. Government employees are just plain rude and unaccommodating to teenagers. They all have this superiority complex that can drive a person nuts!
• Philippines
17 Jun 10
that's really sad i never knew such actually happens, but i did experience paying too much than what i am supposed to. unfrotunately, those who have friends in government agencies get there documents processed as soon as possible and the rest have to wait. this won't end unless we have a real leader that can set the tone
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@mrfdg1972 (3238)
• Philippines
17 Jun 10
I did not fall in line when i got mine, maybe it just an on season thing
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• Philippines
17 Jun 10
the "fall in line" signs ... would be funny if you knew you were in the right line and only had one to wait in ;)
@chiumee (851)
• Philippines
17 Jun 10
if your son gets a job, these things will be furnished by his employer. than he will just wait and receive or request to his employer about these details that they will provide. i mean about the SSS, TIN, Philhealth. but the NBI and police clearances, you really have to go to the branch nearest to you. unless you are into some other purpose that you urgently need these details. then suffer the classic fall in line till you drop.
@knicnax (2234)
• Philippines
17 Jun 10
Some jobs actually require you to apply all of these on your own. I had an experience like this at a call center. It was West Contact Services. They wanted me to apply for atleast my SSS and TIN by 3pm and they gave me this list of things that I need at 10am! Goodluck! I declined the job offer. haha. Anyway, the point is some companies wouldn't go though the trouble of doing this for you.
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@Jacobus1919 (1684)
• Philippines
17 Jun 10
Yes. The line is too long and too slow. It seems the system for these stuff still has not improved in anyway. They seem to give people a hard time, even though they are actually citizens of the country which is in fact their birth right to have.
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@syoti20 (5296)
• Philippines
16 Aug 11
I think they are making a project wherein all important details will be in just one card. I hope they start doing this. So I day fall in line will be worth it.
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• Philippines
10 May 11
It's actually the reason the unified ID system was pushed through in the mid-90s (I was quite young then). We need an all-in-one ID that can be used in various transaction in both government and private sector. The US is using the same system now, and it works. However, the political paranoia at the time won over common sense and the idea was junked here in the Philippines.
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• Philippines
10 May 11
After how many months, better that they are automated now. They are more organized than before.
• Philippines
18 Jun 10
It is really very time consuming to get those public documents and quite expensive too. I just hope that time will come that things will be easier for us to secure those papers, I mean, without the effort of lining up in their offices.
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@juggerogre (1659)
• Philippines
17 Jun 10
Yes its really hard to get those documents. So 1 good tip is to go there as early as you can. If you can camp there at 6 am then do so. The last time I went to those government building is when I applied for my SSS ID. And it took almost half a day! And 6 months later I'm still waiting for it to arrive. I hope this improves. And I hope they hire more friendly people.
• Philippines
17 Jun 10
Hello Marichris, Yes, it's hard, sweaty, too many people and not only that, very unreliable government employees. that's the problem with the agencies. i remember when my brother had to renew his car registration. when he failed the smoke test, his friends paid the staff so that they can take care of the registration, meaning there was corruption involved and people got paid just to get it done
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