Unemployed - relaxed???

@basqui (3888)
Philippines
July 4, 2010 8:04pm CST
In my place, there are the people called tambays (I know all places in the Philippines have). Well, I see them everyday not going to work or at least find some work to do. They come in ages from teens who are out of school to men at their 30s. Well, their usual routine is to have drinking sessions in the afternoon and they even go to the extent of having debts in the stores because they can't pay for what they drank. Well, here's what I've realized, why is it that the unemployed are the most ones to be seen in these sessions. They are even the ones who smokes a lot and gambles a lot. Why don't they just go and look for legal work, they are not disabled to do so. So what do you think? Is it the unemployment that keeps them from having vices? Would work keep them off vices?
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@hexeduser22 (7253)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
They are simply scared of responsibilities. They don't or they are not ready to leave their childish existence. They are so many jobs in our country that gives basic salary and doesn't have that high requirements and or qualifications to apply for
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@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
YEp, maybe they just want a happy-go-lucky life. They find small jobs like working for a construction site for a couple of weeks but that could not compensate for the years they have been wasting their time doing nothing but vices. There have been people in our place that have been offering stable jobs but they don't like the existence of the rules and regulations that they have to follow in the workplace even if they are qualified for the small job. Hell, how could they become bosses when they don't start as basic employees right?
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@knicnax (2233)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
I agree. They just want to be happy and would rather not go through the tough process of gaining self worth
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• Philippines
5 Jul 10
First things first, I just want to correct my grammar "There are so many jobs" not "They are so many jobs" This people are oftentimes the one to whine about everything that happens around them but they don't realize that they should take notice on how they live their lives and not of the people around them. Not all of them though are that bad. There are people like this that can be so reliable when it comes to community concerns but we can't ignore the fact that they are still "tambays" after the end of the day
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• Philippines
5 Jul 10
Hello basqui! I was a "tambay" before for 4 years and it was fun because we made a lot of friends. To be a "tambay" is not just about drinking, smoking or having a lot of debts in the stores. It is also about making friends, controlling yourself and helping others. For example if our friend needs some financial help because he is in the hospital then each of us will give him money so that we can help him, we will visit him in the hospital and cheer him up. "Tambay" is not just about negative things it's also have the good side of life.
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@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
Oh, wow a tambay in the house! Knicnax is right, where will you get the money to help your friend if you are unemployed? Or do you have membership bond in your friends circle that builds up your funds for friends in needs? lol. Lol, knicnax, you are getting hard on him. But you're right, having self-control should be started on your ownself and not from friends or any other people so first control yourself to find work and be useful in the country's workforce.
@knicnax (2233)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
How were you able to give financial aid if you didn't have any work? Wouldn't friendship and camaraderie found in the workplace too? Also what do you mean by controlling yourself? How can you control your self when you can't even support yourself? Sorry if I'm asking a lot of questions, I just want to know the answers first hand from a tambay :D
@anne25penn (3305)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
What's more mind boggling is how they find money to pay for those debts since they are unemployed. Most of these unemployed "tambays" are really the scourge of society because you will find most of them have criminal records and the people in their communities know that they are also crooks who steal. It has become a way of life for these people.
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
just to let you know, am one of those unemployed "tambays" that was mentioned here. though i have a small kind of business. but i think not all of them are scourge, probably can't find the right company that match with them. because we all know that good working environment is a must to an employee
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
Not all tambays are criminals though. the tambays in my place don't do petty crimes even if they are unemployed. they just don't spend their time wisely.
@bystander (2292)
• Philippines
12 Jul 10
well, that's what they want to do... let them be... you don't want your life being run by these street denizens, so don't mess up with them... you are not their keeper... besides, they are not bothered, why be bothered by what they do... if they are social blights, there are the authorities that will deal with them properly... and it you're one of the authorities... so, do it... if not, let the authorities do it...
@bystander (2292)
• Philippines
2 Aug 10
if they are not a bit bothered by what they do, why would you? so long as they are not directly bothering you, let them be... what they do is their own choice...
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
13 Jul 10
Yep, I'm just being bothered by what those bodies are going to. going to waste. They could at least be big helps in their own houses rather than on the streets, they are not payed to sit there. lol
@mspitot (3824)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
i think it depends on the person and the environment. first, i am currently unemployed. i am still waiting for my work to be processed but i do home based online earnings. i don't really tambay in the streets like some of the tambays here. in our place, there are unemployed but not all of them watch the time goes without doing anything good. there are some that give their time planting and cleaning their house. there are some that find something that will give them even small income by selling or doing others things in the legal ways. but there are some who drink during the weekends. i think their peers has also something to do with vices.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
Well, I may have wrongly generalized the unemployed. I know that there are some that find time on small jobs like online or even by doing contractual construction for men. But here in my place, those really that have no stable jobs are the ones seen in some sessions of drinking, gambling and others. They have relatives abroad but is that the real reason why they should not work for themselves? Isn't it that their relatives are spending their lives working in other countries, away from their families just to have money to send back home, and they just spend it on vices. I've even seen family men here in my place doing these. There wives are abroad and you can see them drinking even early in the morning. Are they not ashamed of themselves, or do they just don't care?
@mspitot (3824)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
i notice that too. that is one bad thing about us. when we know that someone will take care or help us, we tend to rely on them much. i don't like it. i don't like it when i see people who do nothing to improve their lives and then they blame it on others.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
Yeah, when their wives have delayed sending the money then they will rant about it but they haven't realized that the work there is back-breaking than back when they were in the Philippines. So those irresponsible husbands should also consider that money abroad is not just picked up from the streets but is worked for by blood and sweat.
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
If you are like 5-6 month without job, it would be better to double the effort. Finding a job does not necessarily means that it is all hardwork rather, it has also luck locked up inside.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
The Philippines have 7.3% unemployment rate this year, some of those in that percentage are maybe under-qualified, over-qualified that don't like the wage in the jobs or simply lazy. Maybe those people that strives hard to look for jobs might have no opportunities int their localities. Maybe some localities have open jobs for particular people but the locality have no qualified people for those jobs. Or the locality have lots of graduates for a particular degree but there are no jobs for them in that place. There might be some open job opportunities for them in some places but they don't have the money to migrate to those places.
@fake_you (391)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
I think that unemployment is not the only reason why there are 'tambays'. There are some who can choose to have jobs but choose to stay. Their problem is their laziness. And I can say, it really is hard to get over with.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
Yes, laziness, it's one Filipino mentality that is keeping some of us poor and unsuccessful.
@attente (986)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
I think there are two kinds of tambays. There are tambays who still earn money through online jobs and mylotting. They just stay at their home yet they earn money.. And the latter are those tambays that you have mentioned. hehe. :) Well I pity the family of the second type of tambays.:)
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
6 Jul 10
I don’t believe that the Philippines are the only country with such individuals. I think it is a life choice that these folks have made. Some are too lazy to work and they have found the perfect way to drink to excess and live a slack life but the are others who may have become unemployed against their will and their self esteem has taken a beating and they have given up on themselves. Either scenario is a sad one...
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
7 Jul 10
Yupp, unemployment is a big problem in all countries worldwide.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
7 Jul 10
I don't know that work would keep these kind of people from leaning on their vices. It could very well be that it would make their dependence on their vices greater. I know that there are a lot of people that partake in different vices as a way to escape their reality. Well, even if these people did have jobs, there would be different realities to which they would want to be able to escape from, so their need for vices would potentially change, but how it would change is yet to be seen.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
7 Jul 10
Yes but at least they are spending for their vices out of there own sweat than receiving money from relatives only to sustain their vices.
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
That's a very complicated issue. Unemployment is tied to a lot of problems such as lack of education and poverty. I agree that work would probably keep them off vices. But how will they find work if they are not educated or money to go look for work? It's a chicken-and-egg situation. GMA tried to provide work for them if you remember her "Pa-trabahaho ni Gloria" (Work from Gloria) program. I don't think that made a dent in the economy. It was a band-aid solution. In my personal opinion, the solution to the problem is more complicated than just providing work for them, but it is a good start.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
I think there is works out there unfilled, some are just unqualified, overqualified or not interested, lol. The government have even given scolarships to some people and even livelihood trainings to teach them new skills but I think they have been used to living easy and just want for blessings to drop in front of them while they are sitting which will surely will not happen except on election days, lol
@yresh12 (3212)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
\ Remember that term? I think that some are not tambays because they are don't like to apply but because of having poor education or they are not qualified or they don't much experience that they don't get hired. Some just wait for jobs to go to them but that would be impossible. Well there are just lots of factors and reasons why we have lot of tambays here in our country.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
Yeah, employers sometimes search for employees but they just don't pick out anyone. Applicants should also exert something for them to qualify.
@pangahaz (46)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
Some tambay don't know how to earn online.
• Philippines
7 Jul 10
There are a lot of tambays in the streets nowadays. I don't understand despite of the lack of money, they can still drink a lot, smoke like there was no tomorrow and can even find girls as their girlfriends even though some are married. It's very frustrating that these kind of people are satisfied with this kind of life. Although, I know that not all were given chances to study or to complete High school or college but there are options. There are jobs that doesnt require a college degree although with a low pay. Yet, there's hope at least you will still have a job and you earn even if its minimum. I think if all would help one another like in other countries, our country would develop and would not stay as a 3rd world country. I hope the government, the rich people in the Philippines would help one another and offer education for those who were not given one, more so those who have companies can train and offer jobs for the people so that we wouldnt complain how much tambays we see on the streets. They can even help their families too. If other countries can implement that, why cant we? I hope our new President can do something about this and by the time he finishes his term. A lot of families were helped.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
7 Jul 10
Yes, hopes from the new leader. but at least those tambays could start changing now and not wait for the leaders to initiate. If they really want to have better lives then they would have started long ago. I know one guy who is fond of texting and he even begs for prepaid loads from friends, grrr... isn't it embarrassing? Why would he have to have a cellphone if he has no money to buy load?
@xtedaxcvg (3189)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
It's hard to determine what really cause unemployment. One may say the reason is because of lack of education. Some would say it's because of laziness and lack of focus. Most would say it's because of our government. I guess it's situational and it varies from person to person. There are educated people out there who can't find a job because of too much competition. Others are underqualified while there are those who are just plain lazy.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
That's life and sometimes we just have to take it in and watch other people mess up their lives and some make thing out of it.
5 Jul 10
"The Devils makes work for idle hands" is a saying which is common here in the UK and I have to say that when you are unemployed for whatever reason it is far too easy to get into bad ways. I'm not just talking about drinking and gambling, but also bad habits such as staying in bed, not shaving, eating properly and so on because you end up trying to find things to fill the emptiness. So whilst I agree that being unemployed does lead to vices to fill up long empty days it's most certainly not easy to find work and can be seriously demoralising when you spend all day everyday looking for work in a country with a shortage of jobs. And although you haven't said it but other have, generalizing all unemployed as lazy wasters is an unfair comment to make, usually made by those who have no idea what being unemploed is like.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
My country has 7.3 % unemployment rate at this year I think but there are more open jobs out there in wrong places, high requirements and others. Almost all unemployed have less education than what is required in jobs so they can't get in, and some don't like the salary offer and some simply don't like to work. I'm not saying that all unemployed are lazy, it's just that the ones I've mentioned that came from my community are lazy ones for sure, I see them everyday.
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
Hello basqui, I think i have to be honest here, there are really not much jobs that qualifies most people that has to apply and apply all the time. some just too lazy too apply there because of strictness and unfair treatment of some of the interviewers or employers that they tend to resign. that's why some of them ended up being criminals, trying to get money the bad way. yes, that includes the worst criminal sins than the vices.
• India
5 Jul 10
I do not know much about the people of that country or the culture but one thing is very hard to sallow is the life of unemployment.Its very true that which ever country you consider every where there is unemployment in hoards and therefore its the government of each particular countries responsibility to provide its youth a proper livelihood by means of employment etc.Hence if an unemployed youth is indulging in drinking,gambling or doing anything unsocial activities its the government or the system or more specifically WE are to be blamed,Its very natural that they will obviously indulge into such things,but what of the society(WE) or the Government is doing instead of doing some good for the country as a whole,the Government is dividing the country, the individuals, the religion,by which only some hand full of people are enjoying the life,while billions of people are kept in the dark by these so called legal government and the so called society of individual country.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
It's not that the government is doing nothing. Actually they provide livelihood programs in our community but there a re still some who does not want to spend their time in jobs that pay less.
@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
These people are those with no or very little qualifications and they can't get hired anywhere. It's so sad that many of them are like that because of poverty, their parents not able to send them to school. They are drinking and smoking or maybe playing billiards because it is the only thing they know they can do. I hope the government will have some programs to educate or train these people to become productive. I know that this sounds impossible, but if some help or programs are available for them, then their number will someday decrease.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
Yes, poverty really is one big cause of these unemployment. Luckily some of those tambays here have engaged themselves in livelihood programs that the local government have shared to us but some still just don't care if they work or not. Maybe the new administration could give more opportunities for those that are really interested in changing their lives.
@xcel0684 (76)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
I don't think so but probably. Some people resort to their vices to condition themselves from the stress and pressure of being unemployed - smoking and drinking. Nonetheless it's still up to them...they always have the control. I myself once was unemployed but I didn't resort to any of my vices...hihihi I started to have vices when I started working...
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
Uh, does doing nothing give stress? lol, I drink casually because I want to relieve some stress at work, but I guess unemployment is really stressing huh, that they drink everyday, lol