I need your advice on a very serious matter?

@suehan1 (4344)
Australia
July 20, 2010 7:26pm CST
I went to court yesturday with my daughter. My daughter was assaulted and punched in the face in December last year by a 13 year old girl.This 13 year old has stalked my daughter for the last several months and caused my daughter 19 a great deal of stress. Well it came out in court yesturday that my daughters boyfriend aged 21 actually slept with the 13 year old girl. My daughter and I were devastated as her boyfriend lied to the both of us,and now we know why this girl has been harassing my daughter as she has this fatal attraction complex with my daughters boyfriend. My dilema is that my daughters boyfriend lives in my home and I feel I need to ask him to leave and try and get my daughter to stay away from him. It is illegall here to sleep with a minor under 16 and he could face going to jail if they charge him. I have been good to this boy and took him into my home and put a roof over his head. He has lied to me and stolen from me and has really hurt my daughter. Would you ask him to leave?
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
As a mother and an adult, it is easy to come to the conclusion that you should kick him out. However, it is your daughter which should make that decision, as you are only a third party to it. And I assume that he slept with the 13 year old before meeting your daughter. As for the law, it is entirely a matter for the law. While a 21 year old is an adult, he still has the brain of a teenager. Someone was saying on television the other day Women are not adult until 25 And depending on the man, it can be anything between 30 and 80. lol Responsability comes with maturity. And you cannot expect someone of 21 to act mature. Laws are artificial and do not take people circonstances in consideration. The judges and magistrates are left to clean the law's mess. That is why people cannot understand why the judges are lenient. Everybody makes mistakes. And you cannot jail everybody for making mistakes. I am sure he was not a predator looking to sleep with a 13 year old. It just happenned because she played her part into it. And while the law says that it is his responsability to say no, his hormones were saying yes. Just like teenagers speed on the roads while fully knowing that they are breaking the law.
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• Australia
21 Jul 10
Nothing will happen to him unless the 13 year old or her parents actually press charges against him. If they don't press charges, all he has to do is to deny everything and the law cannot touch him. Even if they were pressing charges, I would deny it, unless she has witnesses or evidence. But I still think that you would be far better off working on convincing your daughter to drop him, than to kick him out. Because if you do, she might leave with him. She is 19, and you cannot stop her.
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
You know what Aussie , you always make sense. If you saw this 13 year old girl you would honestly think she was about 17 ,as she is bigger and more well built than my 19 year old daughter and any man would not know she was only 13.Yes I think the 13 year old has played a big part in this, but he did this when he was living here and going out with my daughter, and I am afraid I can not take any more of this nonsense,but I am not sure they will lay charges on him as she has a huge reputation and a lot of A.V. O'S out against her, so who knows what will happen.
@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
I would have thought that if they were going to lay charges they would have done it by now. He actually came around last night and picked up his clothes.
@cadguy08 (1224)
• Canada
21 Jul 10
I would rather kick this guy out of your home, He lies to you and your daughter what's the point of keeping that guy when you cannot trust him . He just using you and your daughter. Sue him if you can about sleeping with a under age kids. Period!
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
Yes I am asking him to leave and sooner than later. I personally hope that they will lay charges and he will learn if he is sent to jail. I just hope my daughter realises she should not take him back.
@ET28LV (1890)
• Latvia
21 Jul 10
Yes the best way would be kick this guy out to the street. Just imagine how long this boy was lie and playing this game, but now you was know this thing. In my place Youngsters can use each other to 18 years. It is big shock to you and your doughter. I only worried about your doughter It would be very hard to living further. We can say her could find other guy etc. But, this is only a words. I hope all be well with you and your doughter, other family members. Take care, Have a nice day!
@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
Thanks for your kindness. My daughter hopefully will find a nice man one day.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
21 Jul 10
Personally there is NO WAY I would have even had to consider asking this Question if it was me. How can you feel concerned if he has lied to you and your daughter and stolen from you? Personally no 21 yr. old should be sleeping with a 13 yr. old. To me that is Sick, and I personally would want him in Jail if it was me. Hopefully by now you have made the decision to make him leave, and in time your daughter will become a better person from this. And if the 13 yr. old keeps on making harassment issues see what you can do to press charges on her as well before it becomes something even more.
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
He has now gone which is a good thing. The pressing charges of the 13 year old girl is hard as they do not tend to charge them unless the have broken an A.V.O.They just get a slap on the wrist
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Jul 10
Yeah, you bet I'd ask him to leave. he sounds like bad news...
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
He is bad news and now he is gone, he picked up his things last night.
• India
21 Jul 10
I live in India , and here it is illegal to sleep with a girl under 18, the girl should be 18 + ..but leave that , thats in india, and as you are saying in your area it is illegal for under 16 only , then 100% he will have jail for doing this crime , and you should never keep a criminal in your home . Your daughter will surely get a good boyfriend than him , so tell him to leave now and keep your daughter away from him .
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
Here it is under 16.If he has done the crime he should do the time. I hope my daughter does see that she can do better than him.
• India
21 Jul 10
Snobbery is very dangerous thing ,clearly that guy is taking advantage of your generosity, Ask him to find shelter elsewhere
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
Yes he has taken advantage of our generosity and I will not be fooled again.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
well, if i were in your position, i will definitely kick him out from my house straight away and prohibit my daughter to have anything to do with him anymore in the future... no questions asked... he had taken your kindness for granted and make use of you and your daughter... what's the point of letting him still staying in your house??? take care and have a nice day...
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
Thanks lingli . I have asked him to move out and he is O.k with it no arguments.I think he realises he had it good here. As far as my daughter is concerned I hope this will be the end of their relationship.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
21 Jul 10
suehan1, I felt compelled to add a few comments after reading through most of the posts which is advocating that he be kicked out of your house. I always believe in hearing both sides of the story and I have not seen one post actually advocating hearing the story from your daughter's boyfriend. I hope that the both of you will not be victims to some courtroom antics from your daughter's assailant who is trying every trick in the book to get away with as little legal repercussion as possible and that the relationship be strained at your end. Every perpetrator will say that they are not guilty or find some excuse to get away with murder. So what will a 13 year old know? I can tell you straight here - a lot and with a lawyer defending the case for her...expect more. No one is guilty lest proven and sleeping with a minor even if it is consensual is still considered rape - statutory rape and if the other party plays out, we may be looking at a pedophile charge. Surely, every adult will know it and the severity of it to actually flout it - we are talking about a whole life's future here. In view of such seriousness, I think it would be better for all of you to sit down together and hear the truth from the alleged party. It could have taken place prior to him going together with your daughter or never at all. I believe that every human has to live with one's conscience and that the clearer it is the better it will be. I do not doubt or think that you are a poor judge of character to offer your home to shelter him in the beginning and since you've trusted yourself, to have seen something in this person for you to make such a decision. Then I believe the other party is obligated to come clean with whatever had been said in court and that you should give your instinct a chance as well. Hear him out. So, I will not be casting the stone here and ask him to leave until I have heard everything from him. P.S. Even if he did sleep with that girl, I would also have to check the exact circumstance, time and his behavior so far, to this very day. I will also try to find out more about it before deciding on his fate.
@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
Thank you for your sound advice skysuccess,and I have taken it all in. I have always given people the benefit of doubt,but he has admitted to sleeping with this girl and he lied to me when I asked him a few weeks ago if this may have happened, as I wondered why this girl was so infatuated with him and wondered why this girl punched my daughter in the face and has stalked her and harassed my daughter at work,so it all makes sense now.My daughter had no idea and thought this girl had just taken a dislike to her.It has just gone from bad to worse at the moment and I have tried to be fair and reasonable about this, but I just can not take any more.
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• United States
21 Jul 10
I would say forsure if the incident (relations w/ this 13 yo) happened under your roof & before he moved in with you. Either way, it's still cheating and if he has stolen from you that's another strike. It's up to you what you want to do as far as kicking him out. But I think it would probably be the right thing to do.
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
I know it is the right thing to do and I hope he did not do this in my house, but I work during the day and anything is possible, but I doubt it happened here.I do not think I can be civil knowing what he has done to all of us.
@Elixiress (3878)
21 Jul 10
I would ask him to leave, I am assuming that your daughter no longer wants him to be her boyfriend, therefore you have no responsibility to look after him (not as though you did before since he is 21 and should be living on his own two feet). Also the fact that he slept with someone 3 years under the legal limit with a 7 year age difference is disgusting.
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
Yes I have asked him to leave and he has come and picked up his things, and you are so correct that he needs to stand on his own 2 feet as he is 21.
@ruzzel016 (241)
• Philippines
21 Jul 10
Please Suehan, when you ask him to leave be gentle because we don't know if that boy will do something that we didn't expect when you harsh him to leave your home, please be careful, but you can ask some guidance to the police for this matter. That boy cheat to both of you and your daughter and maybe next time he will do it again so better to keep that boy away from your daughter.
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
I have actually spoken with him today and asked him to come and get his things and he said he expected this would happen and is o.k with it.He knows he has done the wrong thing by me and my daughter and he knows that I will never be able to trust him again
@hestylim (1210)
• Indonesia
21 Jul 10
Yes, I will ask him to leave. He has hurt your daughter so much. He doesn't worth staying under the same roof with you and your daughter anymore. Besides, if it happens that someone sues him and wants to bring him to jail. The policemen will go to your house to find him, and it will cause another problems again. So, just kick him out of your house before he causes another problems.
@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
He has gone, he came to my place last night to pick up his clothes while my daughter was not there and I asked him to stay away and leave her be.
• United Arab Emirates
21 Jul 10
Trust is the base of all relationships. Now at 21 if he lies to you and your teen daughter how would you trust him to take care of your daughter in future. He will only give her pain and nothing else. So i would advise you is ask him politely to leave the place. if i was you i would ask him to leave the day he broke the trust.
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
Once they start with lying it is hard to trust them again, I have asked him to go and he is gone.
• Philippines
21 Jul 10
YES. Because he contributes to the problem and its not helping for both of you, especially to her. Don't feed a snake that bites you. I can not imagine, he still have the guts to stay at your place after what he did. Didn't he realize or notice that he is a liability to you.
@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
22 Jul 10
The snake has gone , he came and got his clothes last night.
@Grandmaof2 (7579)
• Canada
21 Jul 10
Yes absolutely I would TELL him to go chase after girls somewhere else besides my neighbouhood. Your daughter deserves so much better and face it if he's doing this now what else and for how long will you be put in this position?
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
Yes she does deserve better and now I think she knows that ,but she will get over her anger soon and think logically soon.
@diamania (7011)
• Netherlands
21 Jul 10
Ask the young man to get out. If he refuses tell him you will call the police and have him removed and at you or your attorneys convenience you can have him charged with unlawful entry he should he resist moving out. You've been nice to him unmutually and it's now time for him to get his stuff together and get the heck out of your house.
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
I don't think he will refuse and I am very sure that he is packing it now thinking he may be charged , so I think he will go quiteley.
@faisai (1138)
• Hong Kong
21 Jul 10
It is sad. I believe most people here will say yes (including me) as this guy simply doesn't deserve what he has now. However, we aren't you. We don't know in full your concerns such as your daughter's feelings and behaviors. In the end, it is your own decision and thus do not simply listen to us as if it is a vote. Above all, we are just nobody.
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
Your views have been valued by me ,as you all have helped me calm down and think logically.
@doryvien (2284)
• United States
21 Jul 10
HI Sue, If I were in your shoes I would sit down with him and tell him to leave, calmly, without raising my voice, without any threat. I'll tell him why I've come up with such decision, which is very obvious. If he refuses, I'd call the police to escort him out of my house. I know this is also very difficult for your daughter, so it would also help to talk to her and let her know the dangers of keeping her boyfriend at home (if she insists to stay with him). Anyway, this guy will serve jailtime for sure, so hopefully moving on will not be as hard. Take care of yourselves coz you don't know what this guy is capable of doing.
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
Hi doryvien You have made so much sense in this post, yes you are right we have to sit down calmly and speak of this as adults. I think doing this post has let me vent a bit and have time to calm down and get advice. A few people here have been a bit judgemental of me, without knowing me, but hey thats o.k. and least I have had a few good mylotters here give me a helping hand for just listening to me vent
• Philippines
21 Jul 10
Yes. It's for your daughter's sake anyway. Besides, if he really loves your daughter, he should haven't lied or should have talked to the girl. He shouldn't have made things worse. But what's done is done. All of you should learn something from it... :)
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@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
Yes he has lied to all of us ,and I would not let my daughter go through the humilation that she went through yesturday if I had known. He is gone I hope by the time I get home.
• United States
21 Jul 10
Is that a question you really need to ask? If my own child had acted that way I would kick them to the curb, much less my daughters boyfriend. What if it was your boyfriend? Would you be hesitant in kicking him out. I'm sure it is difficult and uncomfortable to kick out someone I assume you care about, but consider what it would say about your character if you allowed this to continue in your house and if the consequences are not severe it will continue. I don't mean to sound ugly but you should disregard what you know is right because of your personal feeling about the boy.
@suehan1 (4344)
• Australia
21 Jul 10
He will be gone by the time I get home, No more will I feel sorry for people like that.