Explanation about discussion violated guidelines by the admin

@de_toya (2434)
Indonesia
July 21, 2010 3:15am CST
I think mylot should change the form of guidelines. It will be better if the guidelines contain number. If someone start discussions violated guidelines mylot admin who deleted the discussion should write the number of rule has been violated. So we can refer to the guidelines and could learn from our faults. Currently, mylot admin only explain that the discussion being deleted due to guidelines violation and this make confuse. There will be question, why? Which point are violated? How do you think about my opinion?
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10 responses
@GoAskAlice (4346)
• United States
21 Jul 10
de_toya, when you say "Currently, mylot admin only explain that the discussion being deleted due to guidelines violation..." are you talking about the page you see when you arrive at a discussion that has been deleted? We send deletion notifications for each and every discussion that is removed. That way the person who started the discussion knows why the discussion was deleted. I can understand why you'd want the guidelines to be numbered but there is more to it than that. Discussions, responses, images, tasks, etc. can be deleted for reasons other than what's in the guidelines. We'd have to also include the FAQs or Terms of Use in your numbering system. Any time we want to make a change to the guidelines, FAQs, or Terms there would be a possibility that everything would have to be renumbered, and anything that contains any kind of link (HTML, database, etc.) would have to be checked and reprogrammed. Your idea is sound, but the execution could be trouble. Does that make sense?
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Jul 10
deleted for reasons other than what's in the guidelines like my MoronChat discussion, here I am still going on about it almost 2 years later. lol whiner lol Instead of numbering, how about giving the support folks boxes they can check, with an "other" box, then the reason would populate in the notification. As the guidelines change, you can add new ones. Only if one is removed or reworded would you have to modify an existing one. Yeah, could be trouble.
@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
That's right alice, but in email notification you didn't give us explanation. You just said: ""Your answer has been deleted because the question it was under was deleted" You never explain which guidelines whas been violated by the discussions. That make us confuse sometimes. If you told us the guidelines has been violated, then we could learn to avoid from being deleted in the future. If mylot really will change guidelines to be numbered guidelines, it could be very nice. So you can give us explanation for both deleted discussions and responses just by "please refer to guidelines #n.... and we could be learn from our faults. If you need to deleted discussion, responses, task, images, etc for the reason other than what's in the guidelines, it's better if you give us the reasons. So we could understand and do better in the next. We want mylot going better, don't we?
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Jul 10
The problem with making those more detailed is that in this example, it wasn't your response that caused it to be deleted, de_toya, it was the entire discussion. And the original poster got a message saying why the discussion was deleted, but all the responders underneath did not, because it wasn't their error.
@qianyun6 (2069)
• China
21 Jul 10
I only have one discussion deleted directly, its about why fewer members are active in weekend. I don't know why. Maybe we are not allowed to discussion myLot in myLot? The logic is strange. But my another discussion about myLot reputation was considered legal. I'm really confused. And also many my response were deleted because of the discussions they were under got deleted, some of the delete reason were obvious, but some were really weird. So I appreciate your suggestion very much, I hope it can be accepted.
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@ehsanji (503)
• Pakistan
21 Jul 10
The terms and conditions are made by MyLot administration. We can not suggest them publicly, if you have any suggestions you can contact them privately and tell them what changes they should make whether it be regarding their graphics, terms and conditions, or anything else regarding mylot. I believe that they are going to appreciate you if you do that. let's hope this discussion doesn't get deleted. Wish you all the best!
@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
So, do you agree with me qianyun6? Mylot admin never give us explanation why did they deleted the discussions. They just said that the discussions was violated guidelines. It's better if they explain to us which guidelines has been violated and it will be much better if the guidelines numbered so they can said "please refer to guidelines #n. If the explanation like this we can understand learn from our faults to avoid slip in the future.
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Jul 10
Would be nice, might be difficult to execute. I volunteer to test it. lol
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@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
So, do you agree with me dawnald? It's will be very nice and satisfy us if the guidelines are numbered and when they delete discussion and respond we get explanation like this: "Please refer to guidelines #n". We could learn from our fault so we would be avoid from being slip to the same fault in the future. Thanks dawnald
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@topffer (35528)
• France
21 Jul 10
I cross my fingers : I had no discussion deleted for the moment... but many responses. Sometimes it is obvious that a discussion will be deleted, and sometimes not : receiving only a notification saying that "Your answer has been deleted because the question it was under was deleted" is not satisfying. Generally it is probably because the discussion was a duplicate, but it would be nice to know. Your proposition has a double interest : for the starter of the discussion and for those who gave a response. If it is a reference to a rule, it is easy to send it also to everyone involved in the discussion.
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@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
That was I mean topffer. I remember only one of my discussion was deleted but I didn't remember whether the mylot admin give me explanation which guidelines has been violated. There were many of many discussions was deleted and they just sent me notification saying that: "Your answer has been deleted because the question it was under was deleted". This make me confuse for some discussions violated guidelines. If mylot admin give me explanation, for example: Your answer has been deleted because the question it was under was deleted. Please refer to guidelines #n. This would be fair.
@pinky31ps (329)
• India
21 Jul 10
well ya i think you have got the point. they should particularly mention the clear cut reason of doing that.. why don't you step forward and tell the admin about it. it will help to improve mylot..
@mysdianait (64056)
• Italy
21 Jul 10
Admin responded above you
@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
Yeah, mysdianait was right. The admin responded above you pinky31ps
@Capsicum (1444)
• United States
21 Jul 10
By reading the guidelines it becomes apparent where, you have made your mistake. I often have to refer back , its all there. Numbers would be nice like a rating system of offense . Though most can tell by referring back .
@jazzsue58 (2672)
21 Jul 10
Having just read reply 3 above, I don't see this theory fits that well. It's more a case of how individual administrators choose to interpret the rules, I feel. Some get mardy, others say "Whatever".
@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
Hey capsicum, theoretically, we have to read guidelines to avoid from being deleted but actually the guidelines has ambiguity. Everyone could have different interpretation. It will be much better if they give us explanation which guidelines has been violated by the deleted discussions. I think I will be very satisfy if the mylot admin said like this: ""Your answer has been deleted because the question it was under was deleted. Please refer to guidelines #n" So we can understand that kind of discussion is violating guidelines and we won't respond to kind of discussion in the future.
@damned_dle (3944)
• Philippines
27 Jul 10
SO this means that if I responded to a discussion started that has violated mylot, it will be disregarded too? hmmm... I have made lots of those.
@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
27 Jul 10
Right! Your response will be deleted because the question it was under was deleted. It's the consequent of answering to violated guidelines discussions. Both the starter of discussion and responder has to be careful in make a post. If you think the discussion considered violating the guidelines, don't respond to it. However, everyone here has different interpretation and understanding to the guidelines. That's why there are always deleted discussions even for veteran member here. So, I think, it's really need explanation by the mylot admin for every discussion deleted for both the starter and responders.
• India
22 Jul 10
Hi ! I don't think that it will be necessary. It is our responsibility to read, understand and abide by the guidelines. If we have a doubt, we can just contact the admin, and they just contact us immediately. Besides, it has to be hard for the admin to number each violation. Cheers :)
@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
I think it's really necessary since everyone here has different understanding to guidelines. Even, veteran member could make a mistake by respond to violated guidelines discussions. It's better if we get explanation for our discussions or responses which has been deleted. If the admin show us which guidelines has been violated by the discussions then we could learn from our fault so we could avoid our self from slip to the same mistake.
@vijayanths (7878)
• India
22 Jul 10
well I think it's a great idea. They can have a list of violations and tick the one we violate and let us know it clearly. It will not consume much of admin's time and I think it's quite possible to implement this suggestion made by de_toya. It's a very useful discussion.
@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
Thank you vijayanths. I want we are going better in the future. I want mylot will be better and perhaps the best not only in the traffic but for the quality. If they explain us why did they deleted the discussions and responses by referring number of the guidelines, we could learn from our faults. This will avoid us slip on the same slip in the future. Currently, each member of mylot has different understanding and interpretation to the guidelines. I hope with explanation in every deleted discussions will make us clear what are prohibit here.
@Hatley (164507)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Jul 10
de toya I still think if we all really read the guidelines carefully and follow them we will not make discussions that are deleted. why not do what you suggested for yourself. either make each no no into a numbered rule on a notepad or better yet, copy them onto a sort of cheatsheet on your own computer, as writing them and numbering them like that will help you to remember them. I don't think my lot will go to that trouble as they want us all to really just read them and heed them. as for people here making a lot of reports you forget a real live admins will read all our reports and then decide for herself which really are rule breakers or if the reporter is simply out to harm someone here. these admins people are very intelligent so trust them ' not to delete anything on any mylotters say so.
@de_toya (2434)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
I am not saying mylot admins are not intelligent. I trust them so I want they give me explanation about our fault. Everyone here has different interpretation to the guidelines. We are learning here and often make a mistake. If they don't give us explanation which guidelines has been violated, we would slip to the same faults in the future. Let's think about it. If you broke the law, you will be explained by the police. So you won't do the mistake again in the future, otherwise you will be catch by the police again. Numbered guidelines will help mylot admin give us explanation. For violated guidelines discussions and the responses got by the discussions, they just sent notification to told them that the discussions or responses was deleted and give explanation like this: "Please refer to guidelines#nn" I think this explanation will teach us like teacher give explanation to the students. What do you think?