Is wearing the US Flag on Cinco de Mayo disrespectful?

United States
July 26, 2010 1:44pm CST
I had gotten a FWD today and this piece of news was mentioned about some high school students punished for wearing the US flag motif on Cinco de Mayo. I was thinking why? So I had to check it out! This is the article I found... http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/05/06/students-punished-for-wearing-american-flags-on-cinco-de-mayo/2/ I can see where the school officials stood as to curb any potential violence, however the author makes some good points about the situation. I'm surprised the school isn't getting sued for playing a game of identity politics & violating their freedom of speech.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Jul 10
hi 3Snugglebunnies oh my I hope mylot admins looks the other way, there were earlier several other discussions on this same article. I was appalled at the way that school reacted as its fine for us Americans to celebrate what isreally a Mexican holiday but to show patriotism for our own country the student is punished? that makes no sense now had it been in a Mexican school in Mexico I could understand but not this is just plain stupid.Why on earth would it be disrespectful, why should American kids be forced to bow down to Cinco de Mayo thats not an American Holiday?
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@jb78000 (15139)
26 Jul 10
i remember this story and there was a LOT more to it than the headline suggested. personally i thought the school should have just said NO flags, from anywhere on 5th may but what happened was 4 boys were sent home for wearing american flags and one girl got a mexican flag confiscated. all the other children wearing various flags (american and mexican) got into no trouble at all. it seems fairly obvious these lads were trying to cause trouble but the school handled the whole thing incredibly badly. i think the principal was utterly incompetent - just ended up stirring things up.
• United States
26 Jul 10
I still don't see how the flag is offensive in our own country. Yet wearing their flag isn't. It would like me going to England on the 4th of july and getting offended people are wearing british flags. And also if while I was in THEIR country on the 4th of july I wore a US flag. they would have every right to be offended by what I did. If you want to live in this country...love and believe in this country. celebrate this country.If you love and want to celebrate another country...move there first. I think most people would feel that about their own country. That is one of the biggest issues I have with all the illegals. They don't seem to like this country or want to really be a part of it. they walk around celebrating their orginial country's flag and celebrating it's culture but show distane for this country, our culture and our language. they want to be able to work here, live here, have all the benefits of being American...all the while celebrating another country and its culture. Want to be an American? Then become an American. Assimulate to our culture. Not us assimulate to yours.
• United States
26 Jul 10
"I still don't see how the flag is offensive in our own country. Yet wearing their flag isn't. It would like me going to England on the 4th of july and getting offended people are wearing british flags." Common sense trumps all drawn out debates about the "politics" or "political correctness" of the situation.
• United States
27 Jul 10
I think it depends on the motives of the students. Were they really racists and were fully aware that the Hispanics in that school are offended by the American flag? If so, then wearing the shirts with the flag motif would provoke those Hispanics. But was provoking the Hispanics the real motive of the five high school students? Or were they simply exercising their freedom of expression? If it's the latter, then they should not be punished for wearing those shirts. What if someone wore a shirt with the Mexican flag motif? Would they be punished? Probably not. So there's a double-standard there in that school. I'd also like to ask, do the Hispanic students hate America? If so, why? I received an email from someone a few months ago, showing Hispanic students taking down the American flag, turning it upside down, and raising the Mexican flag above it. In my country, you'd end up in jail for showing this kind of disrepect for the flag. But in this country, the Hispanic students who did this were not punished by the school at all. As for the risk of provoking violence, violence against other groups would not be tolerated, and the perpetrators of the violence would be punished. But in this case the ones who would have been the target of the potential violence were punished. I think the school officials in this case failed to look at the issue logically and use common sense. They reacted out of fear for any political backlash that might result in doing something that's not "politically correct." Perhaps the five students should sue in defence of their rights. I noticed also that many people, especially in very "liberal" regions, view the U.S. as evil. Perhaps this is due to injustices that Americans have committed in the past. But the same can be said of any nation, such as France or England. They've had their share of injustices too. So I'd like to ask those people who view the U.S. as evil, "Is the U.S. still committing those same offenses? Is the US still trying to exterminate Native Americans?" No. "Is the US still using Africans as slaves?" No. Then perhaps we need to focus on the present and ask what problems exist now that need to be fixed rather than always looking at past sins and digging up old wounds. Even a marriage counselor would tell couples this if they want to resolve problems or issues. Furthermore, if we keep hatred alive and continue to hold grudges against others, a conflict is guaranteed to occur sometime in the future.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
27 Jul 10
"Were they really racists and were fully aware that the Hispanics in that school are offended by the American flag?" One of the students was half-Mexican. It wasn't about race, it was about having pride in your country and a school that punished that in favor of encouraging pride in a foreign nation. Regardless, the act of wearing American flag shirts is not racist or inappropriate to anyone in this country with half a brain. I noticed you mentioned the flag being upside down. One thing that makes me laugh is that many who do this are too stupid to know that it is not a sign of disrespect. The actual meaning of the upside down flag is that the nation is in distress. Many people did this after 9-11 to symbolize what had happened and their houses were vandalized as a result by ignorant people.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
27 Jul 10
why should anyone care if they are offended by the American flag? Last I checked...this is the U.s. and if one considers the flag of the country you live in offensive...one should probably move to another country. Question though, what country do you hail from that jails people for flying your country's flag upside down and below the native flag?
• United States
27 Jul 10
Some clarification: I failed to point out what you just did, that it's not a crime to display the American flag, nor should people be offended for displaying it. As for being jailed, what I meant was that in other countries, people are expected to show respect for the flag of that country. So in some countries, you could get into trouble for showing disrepect. So if you were in another country, say the Philppines, for example, and you took down the flag and flew it upside down, that may be construed as disrepect by the authorities and you could end up getting fined or possibly thrown in jail. I wanted to contrast that with the situation here in the US, where showing disrespect for the flag of the US did not result in any fines or punishment for those Hispanic students, who took down the US flag, flew the Mexican flag in its place, and flew the American flag upside down below the Mexican flag.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
27 Jul 10
The growth of perverse logic in this country is amazing. How can there be anything wrong with wearing the US flag on Cinco de Mayo? Or on St Patrick's Day? Or during Oktoberfest? This IS the United States of America. There should be no circumstance, no situation, no setting where it is not appropriate. I understand the boys were making a statement. Are they not allowed to express their opinion? Don't we have the freedom to do so? IS this the United States of America? Good grief.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
27 Jul 10
We went through this before. This incident was turning into and "us vs them" situation with the specific kids involved and the school had every right to squash it before it lead to real trouble.
@ANIME123 (2466)
• United States
27 Jul 10
I really don't know if it's disrespectful or not to tell you the truth, but since it's a day that they love to celebrate well I do not know I am mexican myself in fact my whole family is still I don't know if it's rude or not.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
1 Aug 10
I don't believe you're supposed to be correcting other member's choice of words, maggie. This is not skewl.
@jb78000 (15139)
1 Aug 10
i've seen lots of americans describe themselves as irish. full stop. never seen anybody correct this. and come to think of it lots of other nationalities of origin too - chinese, puerto rican, cuban, etc without an 'american' tagged on the end. maggie is going to be busy if she plans to correct all these.
• Philippines
28 Jul 10
As when Political Leaders meet, there should be a means to wear dual flags, if one chooses and definitely not be judged by wearing just the one, if it is American, no matter how insensitive it may appear.
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• United States
27 Jul 10
it could be seen as an attempt to goad other students if quite a few were wearing it at once.. but that being said-i'd be damned if i took it off.it's not an american holiday.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
27 Jul 10
Since this took place in the U.S. why is it offensive to wear a u.S. flag? Besides, Cinco de Mayo is not even a Mexican National holiday. It is only celebrated in one state down there and even then not very heavily.
@jb78000 (15139)
27 Jul 10
far as i can tell it was nothing to do with anything being offensive. it was a school dealing, very badly, with potential trouble between two groups of children/teens.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
26 Jul 10
Its RACIAL!!!! Racial, I tell you! This is America! How dare someone wear a US flag motif!
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
26 Jul 10
What else can one say about such a disgusting betrayal of America? And people can't understand why we need to secure our borders.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
27 Jul 10
This is AMERICA. Why was it even an issue?
@jb78000 (15139)
26 Jul 10
it was nothing to do with that. if it was why weren't ALL the children wearing us flags sent home? why just 4 lads?
• United States
26 Jul 10
Last I heard the kids families are sueing over it. As to your question...it is NEVER disrespectful to wear a shirt with the US flag on it in this country. It is our national flag. So I don't see a "holiday" that would be "disrespectful" to wear it on....or any day of the week. This IS America. Why is being patriotic or loving the country you live in "disrespectful"?
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
26 Jul 10
To kinda echo lilwonders' sentiments on it, only in America is there some type of controversy over a flag wherein the AMERICAN flag is perceived to be in the wrong. Get real! If an American wore the flag on the 4th in the UK, you could imagine what most of the criticism would be. "Damn bloody tosser yanks thinking America is the greatest country ever!" In America, not only are we expected to allow other flags to wave on our soil, but we must be sensitive and caring and accepting in allowing other cultures to trump ours. Well, more specifically, minority cultures. Anything that isn't white must be patronized, basically, because of the enormous white guilt in America. The people on the Mexican flag side aren't speaking against the cruel, cruel American flag for no other reason than Mexicans aren't white = US minority. Social (perverted) justice at work. Pure and simple. Mexican = victim American = victimizer
• United States
26 Jul 10
You are right...for some reason the rest of the world thinks America has to cater to every culture and country...while they show no respect for this country. If not we are "horrible". Ya...well I would settle for being called "horrible" or "racist" if it meant we could stand up for our country and our own rights and culture.
• United States
26 Jul 10
Lil, I'll take the criticisms from everyone as long as they stay on their side of the fence. Nah but seriously... we can cater to every culture. But it becomes part of America - not something that trumps America to the point where "America" isn't allowed to exist within the separate culture. Melt or don't. Just don't try to transform America into something that's not America. And that goes for everyone.
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@jb78000 (15139)
26 Jul 10
i love being ignored. not joking, would be tempted to chase fish all over mylot because it is fun.
27 Jul 10
America is a free country. I don't think its a crime wearing US flag on there shirt or something they love the country and they are loyal into it.