do you agree

@aguas_aj (498)
Philippines
August 11, 2010 10:59am CST
the bill for divorce is being raised again? do agree for it to be allowed? coz i don't. A lot of people take marriage for granted now a days but this will worsen if the divorce bill is approve. People should think before marrying their partner and not the other way around(marriage before thinking). It's a lifetime decision, and though it is true that alot of women suffers from their partner, it will only aggreviate because many couples will only choose to quit instantly instead of working up the difference. I don't have a perfect marriage and has a lot of down side also but we try to cope and learn. Divorce bill will only rise another problem for women who wants to keeps their family intact especially if their husband choose to sleep to other women
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@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
I on the other hand was raised without having heard my parents quarrel or shout against each other in front of us. My mother always told me that whenever they have problems, they discussed it in private. I don't have any complaints as far as the relationship of my parents is concerned. But i am for divorce why? because it's just like giving each of the couple to have a second lease to search for their own happiness. That's why there's alimony. In the philippines, it's the norm that women are the first to give up their career to stay at home and take care of the kids, more often the stay at home dads only occur when they don't have their own qualifications. The other reason why i agree with having a divorce is because we already have an annulment which to me is a total mockery of the entire marriage system. Just imagine living with someone for a couple of years and when the relationship turns sour they cry that one of the parties involved is emotionally incapacitated and therefore the marriage should not have been not valid in the first place. I consider that a joke, if the couple had been living together for a long time, had kids and everything, the most applicable course of action if the relationship turns sour should be divorce. Having an annulment makes it appear as if nothing happened, if that's the case would the woman get back her virginity? can she get back everything that had been taken from her or she'd given up? certainly not that works the same for the men. If they had kids, what would that make them? illegitimate once the annulment gets approved? If they won't allow divorce then should not allow annulment as well.
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
you have a very valid argument there. it seems that still it's a womans loss even if she chooses annulment. but of course, the argument is that it's the easiest way to her to get out of the relationship and start having her own life and new love which is far more important than getting back what she had giving up to.problem is, if both divorce and annulment shouldn't allowed, then they shouldn't marriage too
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
The problem with us is there are too many laws to an extent that they contradict each other. For example, there are people who don't want divorce but they're in favor of annullment. The way i see it an annulment means that the marriage should not have taken place from the start and therefore we should forget that it ever happened. Just like a fairy flexing her wand and everything gets back to your life before you got married. It's as if the time that started from the day you went to the altar right after the annulment gets approved just vanished into thin air. But we have to realize that people who enter marriage are considered adults and therefore they knew what they're doing, that's the main reason why minors are not allowed to take the vow. If the church won't allow divorce why would they allow annulment? We have to realize that humans are biologically designed to propagate their species, the only to do that is to find a partner. marriage on the other hand is not part of that design but union is. Not allowing divorce doesn't mean that people will stop finding partners rather it would encourage them to live together without marriage which to me is more convenient.
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
you have a strong argument but It would really depend on the person if they would prefer to live in for good and strip off all the legal rights as well as a partner. But all the roots of the issue is simple, why don't you measure or weight all things first before jumping into marriage. The government is wrong in approving annulment. Truth is annulment can be afford only by rich people and not the averaging earning couples. so in my belief this annulment is for the convenience of the rich and irresponsible ex-couple (as it always happens in our country). Now if these couples are really thinking for the welfare of their kids, then they should learn to cope and heal their marriage in able to live a peaceful life in their family. Not just stay in one roof but learn to compromise for each other and heal their wounds.Annulment is a wrong bill, let's not add another one
@ANIME123 (2466)
• United States
12 Aug 10
Well to me marriage is something very sacred hat two partners share with one another and it's a decision that has to be given some thought because they will be binded together for the rest of their lives and yeah if they are unhappy then their marriage will not survive. Love is very important in marriage to survive.Love is what keeps most marriages alive these days. My parents are still together after so long, but my mom says that she wouldn't be with my dad if they didn't have us you know because if they didn't have kids then there would be no reason for them to be together which makes me really sad at times.I don't really believe my mom though what I think is that she does love my dad because she does get very jealous when my dad goes to run a simple errand and takes long and she starts questioning him by asking him if he was with a girlfriend. So I really do think that she really does love him. Anyway marriage is a bond that two people share and it can't be broken so easily because love is very strong.
@grayxenon (1313)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
but not all married couple are binded by love, some are binded by need, family pressure (arrange marriage) etc..these special cases needed the bill..
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
couples in a long run of marriage (old age) doesn't have love as it use to be,but more of affection and companionship. or maybe in a different stage of love. And about getting married aside from love, this is the reason why some don't last and want separation and this is also the reason of unhappiness
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
Hello aguas, this is really sad, I remember my dad's co-worker mentioning it of having that divorce should be legalized. I believe divorce would surely destroy the sanctity of marriage. the saying "for sickness and health" will be demeaning because people would get married out of happiness and money. in the US, illegal immigrants are using Marriage as a way to get it, be citizens and "divorce" to get out of it, with out knowing if Love did truly exist in the marriage. i wouldn't want it. people should really getting into long courtship before marriage, that's my opinion. Annulment or Divorce? it's both heartache.
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
yeah it is important to have long courtship, for couples to know each other and appreciate each other. They may not know everything they need to know but atleast give them the insight, if they would just really give attention for the details
@jamed28 (1903)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
Let's make it clear that a government is put up for the good welfare of its citizens. But these citizens are the primary responsible for their own well being. We never wanted a family to be broken. We never wanted a husband and wife to get separated. But this things do happen even without divorce. And they are separating not because of the government, but because of themselves. But they cannot legally separate BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT. Now that the government is giving them options to divorce, then why don't we give it a chance. After all, you cannot divorce your marriage without a valid reason. It is not a law that if you wake up one morning you wanted divorce and in the afternoon you're already single. LET THERE BE THE LAW, AND LET THE CITIZEN DRIVE THEIR LIVES.
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
true it is the people choice of getting married and then it's also their choice to separate, but why need to provide them an easy way out instead of them trying harder to work it up? True , separation happens whether there is a divorce or not, but atleast, you don't provide an escape way.That's why it is important to think first before entering marriage
@romzz05 (572)
• Philippines
18 Aug 10
I think its only Malta and the Philippines that does not permit divorce. True is I don't really see the major difference between divorce and annulment. Is there even a difference at all if your marriage is divorce as compared to annulled?
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
22 Aug 10
as per law, there is a difference between divorce and annulment. you can back read for the other details that other mylotters have given but as for me, there is none. it is still a separation process and an insult to the vows you have given each other when everything is still perfect.atleast as they both see it. It's juts, annulment is already in our country and I really can't change it anymore but while divorce is still not here. I definitely oppose this. This will ruin the basic of the community. And though there is a lot of problems in a married life, i believe that a lot of people still strive to work on their marriages
• Philippines
17 Aug 10
I do not agree in divorce. If that happens we would become like those in other countries, after marrying for a week they will file for divorce because they find their partner boring. There is no perfect marriage in this world.
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
22 Aug 10
i agree there's no perfect marriage and even harmonious marriage has to be manage also. everything in marriage depends on the couples ways to cope and make their love all brand new
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
well, it can be both ways, it can give so much freedom to the abused women who can easily divorce their abusive husbands. that is a fact. it would cost less than an annulment right... also... it does not make any much difference. how can you say that a marriage is null and void and has not happened in the first place when you have all the photos, the bills, the videos to prove its existence... people only find a way around it, making one of the couple incompetent, psychologically incapacitated... etc... you see, its just the same! why not make the process easier and with less cost, and more "true".
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
i agree for the fact of battered wife having freedom but the sad part is, a lot of people will abuse this bill also. I believe that in one way or another, annulment wouldn't be a case if both couple did not gave up, so if they really want their freedom due to their wrong decision and miscalculations to their partner, then pay the price of being labeled as incompetent, psychologically incapacitated.etc..it's a small price for being so irresponsible as a person
@xtedaxcvg (3189)
• Philippines
11 Aug 10
I as well don't agree with this bill. I believe that no man can pull apart what God has binded together in Holy Matrimony. This bill will also create more problems than solve them. Instead of working out a couple's differences we tend to give them the easy way out through divorce. That would leave lots of broken families and misguided children.
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
the vows are sacred itself,as you yourself brought meaning to that during your marriage. Not just something you memorize or in declamation. God commanded that no man and woman that come together in Union with God should be separated, and if the divorce law will be approved then this Bible rule will be no more good, coz people who had divorce and want to get married again will again have the same "vows" that might end up broken again. I agree with you, married people who doesn't go well, should work things up and not quit. Never quit.but this bill will only provide people easy way out without thinking twice. people has the tendency to escape hardship regardless if they can solve it or not.
@grayxenon (1313)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
I haven't read much of the probation and content of the proposed bill, but I think divorce is needed here in our country, not the type of divorce though that will make the legality of marriage void a piece of cake. you see time has change and we need to cope with it,. there are a lot of marriage that continue to suffer, and so women i know who are already out of marriage (not legally) but still suffer because they can't move on because they are tied with the past. I say yes to a divorce with a comprehensible probation that will protect every individual specially the children.
• Philippines
11 Aug 10
Before, I never want to agree with it thinking it would save my parents from being seperated but instead - it got worse. lol. I am really tired to be their shock absorber like whenever they have problems regarding about money - like who's giving who to me this month. Pretty tiring and I am a little deaf now because of them. LOL So I would have to say, yes. Not because I have my personal reasons but I am also speaking of half of the people who doesn't want to be trapped anymore - legal cases like infidelity, harrassment, abuse and many more to mention. I know Philippines is composed of conservative people who values the sacrament of marriage - but in some cases, my heart is really for those who have been victims of domestic abuse and those mentioned above.
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
i don't deny the fact that children suffers when a broken marriage is already damaging not only the couples but also everyone in the family, but that's why parents should be broad enough to discuss the matter with the children and with the partner itself. It is were healing should be done. Healing for the part of the couple and healing for the children who suffers. One thing that broken marriage never has is compromise. If both partners would only learn to meet in between then it might be easier. I'm a child from broken relationship and I believe that it would have been better that way than see my mother being battered evryday. The church also believes that a marriage can be void with specific reason, and church void marriages in a very strict rules. Not in just a mere problem. That's why it is very important to know your partner first before marrying him /her, whether financially, emotionally, spiritually and mentally knowing her. You must see the differences that you can REALLY REALLY accept and cope, before jumping to a marriage. Broken marriage is due to lack of proper thinking
• United States
11 Aug 10
you know my parents got married in the court house there marriage last for 31 before they got divorced and there marriage ended in a court house. i always thought there was way too much put into a wedding especially with the rates of divorce going up here. I wanna get married but if I do it won't be elaborate. I'll still have a dress. I don't know if it will be white or not. I don't think it would really matter for me now days. I mean I have a 5 year old so it's not like white would mean the same if you know what I mean. So I guess it would just depend you know. I think the reason people are having so much divorce is because it's so easy to get a divorce. They require only paper and reasons for the divorce and evidence that a divorce is necessary. Unlike a marriage where so much planning goes into one, plus them requiring counseling before you get married.
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
Marriage is so important. And the mere preparation shows for the process itself. BUt of how detail if may be, depends to you. But getting married is hard in all aspect, physically and financially and emotionally. But isn't it that you'll cherish something you have worked on so hard? that's marriage, you'll feel the beauty of it when you have overcome each day and still find the same man beside you.(ofcourse if you love him right from the start), and as divorce is so easy because it's the easy way out in a small problem you can't solve. Marriage is like a big complex puzzle, you may have hard time figuring it out but definitely you can solve it, the hard part is, if you're just too tired to solve it, you might just throw it away, just like divorce.
@adel09 (490)
• Philippines
11 Aug 10
I don't agree with this bill. This will worsen the marriage problem here in the Philippines. People will enter marriage without thinking that this will be forever.
@aguas_aj (498)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
i totally agree.people will be more aggressive with their decisions and they will be more reluctant for what the possible effect may be.
@2004cqui (2812)
• United States
11 Aug 10
Divorce is costly in many ways. Even though I've been married for 27 years I continuously ask, "Since when is getting married a requirement?" What matters is good decisions and happiness!
@akn1961 (1034)
• India
28 Aug 10
I do not agree with you ,Bill for divorce will mitigate problems in family,If marriage is carried happily ,it is good ,if it is burden it must be broken ,in this war ,ladies have to become more independent not just simple house wife ,if change their life will be far better.
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
11 Aug 10
I am for the sanctity of the marriage. The reasons are in the vow. If some difficulty crops in the process, the nullity and the annulment could terminate the vows. But divorce is the disfigurement not only of the concept of marriage but also the two people involved, and the children, if they have some.