Filipinos VS Filipinos: Where does Racism End...

Philippines
September 2, 2010 1:07pm CST
Hello LOtters. I know that these kind of issues had been going also for a while. remember i made a discussions about "liking or hating" filipinos after the hostage incident. there was one person who had assumed that i hate Filipinos, well, sorry to disappoint him because i don't. probably i don't trust a few and hate some of our bad habits, but not hate in a full extent.. but what i saw in some pages and sites made me realize what he said. my view on our beloved people doesn't change. but i guess these people did. i pity them really. not a referral link. http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs400.snc4/46313_423574243315_580963315_5002918_3206594_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs616.snc4/59676_1397557294214_1090701391_30944659_7389222_n.jpg and another... http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs187.ash2/45036_1262830950110_1809822915_517470_3117637_n.jpg the last one was after the terrible event. do people really have the right to hate? i hope god would touch their souls.i see evil in this remarks. but this last sample video,but i think it made sense. at least gave me some insight of what some born Fil-Ams really does do in the US, specially in schools. [b] not a referral link.[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPBqWRgMItE Please don't hate for this. i couldn't sleep again because of this! My Fellow countrymen, how do we deal this kind of racism that has completely divided not just those within our country..but also outside the country... I know, there is no Permanent solution. but how does it resolve? Most people reacted as Onion Skinned as what they call it... What are your views? ...this is a completely Filipino Matter.... I fear, what would happen to the next Generation if more Flip haters starts to arise. God have mercy on us. i am so scared of this.
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15 responses
@Theresaaiza (9696)
• Australia
3 Sep 10
Hi LK, a lot of Miss Universe pageants have already been held each year, and yet, there still is no "World Peace!" And in the last one, our contingent made a major major newsbreak because of her "major major", where another beauty queen made another regionalistically biased comment. It happens here in our own country, BY people of the same race. Sickening!
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• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello Theresa, well, it's some thing some filipinos likes to make fun off. i believe language barrier is the reason that we have this.i remember too that i didn't like going back home to pangasinan because they made this horrible joke that if you don't know pangalatong, then they will sell youthat freaked my out.
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• Australia
6 Sep 10
What's palangatong? Please don't sell me like canned sardines!
@meemingNEW (2228)
• Philippines
2 Sep 10
I'm quite speechless. Thanks for sharing the links by the way. I am a Filipino and no matter how disappointed I am of that hostage incident, I can't change the fact that this is my blood, my race. But That's just sad to know how racists some Fil-Ams in the US are especially in schools. As well as Filipinos here in the Philippines and their hateful words against Filipinos. I wish that racism would end, but I highly doubt it. As sad as it is, we just have to deal with it. As Jboytv said on his video, just be yourself. I am a Filipino and so I'll be one. Don't let all those haters get the best of you. Don't let it get way over your head. Let's just hope and pray for a better Philippines. P.S: I laughed looking at one of your links : http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs187.ash2/45036_1262830950110_1809822915_517470_3117637_n.jpg based on the last lines that she posted: f*ck you filipinos, i'm not one of you..etc.. from now on I'm f*cking Chinese LOL. [/b] Okay lets get this straight. I just had to laugh at almost every thing that she said esp this . [b]My name is (please just look at the link above).
• Australia
3 Sep 10
And she wanted it to be pronounced "La-ruh"! What race does she really want to be????!!!! She was driving me crazy!
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello meeming, Well, maybe she is a chinese based on her attitude. i think she lacks education or appreciation about the filipinos. i believe it's a good reason for me not to go to United States. what's wrong with them has always been in my mind. people can say what ever they want to say, how ever, i think they didn't have a hardship of life. just like any other Filipino out there.
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• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Ironically, the Chinese in USA are also suffering discriminations from many white Americans. They were called "ch*nks","flied lice","slants" or whatever derogatory words you can imagine.
@saphrina (31740)
• South Africa
2 Sep 10
Don't come to me with "this is a filipino matter' Why did you post this, sweetie? Ain't there enough trouble already? I am seriously not impressed with this at all. Do you want me to teach you how to really insult others? What i will teach you will make your hair bleed. I really don't like this at all. TATA.
• Australia
3 Sep 10
Hi saph, I think what LK meant about "Filipino matter" is that, it "truly is a matter of concern for Filipinos...but of course non-Filipinos can share their thoughts or can be among us in this very upsetting times."
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello there, I understand you're upset. i didn't think others would see this as an upset too. well, they can't say something like that if they're not rich, priviledge or with money that they can afford more. to some, probably had bad experience with Filipino for them to say those things. you're an angel, don't let the devil take you to that level...of hate. don't go down to their level. theresa, she has a deep reason why she was upset.
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@saphrina (31740)
• South Africa
3 Sep 10
Thanx theresa. Hmm, let me put it this way. Should i or should i not get involved in this, sweetie? You know why i ask and this is one thing i will not tolerate. You know that. So, enlighten me on this decision. I can hate that easily as i am good at it.
@hexeduser22 (5856)
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Just don't mind them Letran they are not worth your time. They are the ones to suffer because they are the one hating. No matter what they say and do we cannot change the fact that we are Filipinos and I'm not ashamed of being one, We are not like that Lara girl We know ourselves and we are proud of what we are despite all this negative things surrounding our race. I love my foreign friends here in mylot because they believe, love and never hated us no matter what
• Australia
3 Sep 10
I would have to agree that most people here are mature individuals who know how to put all biases aside. I also can't help but think that some are just trying not to, to avoid getting banned here. Well I can see why I am so negative tonight.
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello Hexerduser, well, she's young. am sure such views will change as time goes by.i know that i am proud because of our contributions to the world, no matter how small it maybe. but i believe that racism exist for a reason not just mere "right to hate" syndrome. some people had bad experiences with filipinos that they started discriminating every one.
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• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Don't worry Theresa if people are just pretending to be good to us for the sake of not being banned then they are just giving themselves a hard time pretending. It's better to be who you are online and offline. Don't mind them we are what we are and unlike we aren't having a hard time pretending. Filipinos hating Filipinos is not totally racism but our very own "crab mentality". It's a trait that exist in most of us and we have been trying to get rid of it in our culture for how many generations but still some rotten idiot have this mentality
• Philippines
2 Sep 10
Racism will never end probably. But we could put a stop on it by starting it first with ourselves. A relative who went to Singapore last year for work was so shock that her own "kababayans" were the ones who made it uncomfortable for her live in the new country. She told us that the Filipinos, well some, are the ones who's spreading nasty untrue rumors about her. They envy her actually because most of their Singaporean comrades praise her for good performances at work. I've also heard it from friends who are living in US. Quite disappointing but I guess that's how it goes. Racism is everywhere and it's not just in between Filipinos. I myself have also my share of being discriminated by an Emirate (a UAE national) and the feeling never goes away. So I have learned the lesson of how it feels like to be discriminated. One of the many reasons why I always try to humble myself when someone, same or other race, is making a better out of himself. I try to avoid such situations and walk away just to avoid misunderstandings.
• Australia
3 Sep 10
Hi T.U....I already know half (or less) as much, how a racist remark would make me feel from the links that LK gave and the stories from my classmates abroad. Apart from the racism shown to them by people from another race, there's also that crab mentality apparent from fellow Filipinos. How can we gain respect and equal treatment from other races if,we, ourselves discriminate our own people? A very ugly habit. And for that I guess we deserve all those rude remarks of some people for us.
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello Total-Pretty-Undecided, So much insecurity i supposed. i remember this story about my ex's relatives who worked in the middle east. she worked so cool that she gets a long with the boss as well. but the others didn't like it and even threatened to kill her. she went home weeks after hearing that. yeah, just avoid those things, better be than just fight it out. well, theresa, this hostage thing has really embarked on us.
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• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Crab mentality is a b!tch Why do some of our fellowmen think this way, no wonder most of our politicians are corrupt *sigh*
@eileenleyva (9375)
• Philippines
4 Sep 10
Knight, first, this is not a racism issue, and second, the term Filipino pride had taken another meaning. Whereas we take pride in something that is inherently ours and has become internationally accepted, like Bata Reyes of billiards, or arnis as a genuinely Filipino game, the Filipino pride elsewhere refers to the "yabang" because of "pagbubuhat ng sariling bangko". Crab mentality is more likely an apt term. We have that in us. We tend to put our fellow Filipinos down. Just look around your neighborhood. "And daming mayayabang." The jboy clip presents a boy who came back to his homeland and discovered how genuine and simple Filipinos could be in contrast to the flashy Fil-ams he grew up with in America. There is a huge cultural difference in the two settings he dwelt in. And he liked the Filipino in him. The Fil-ams may be disillusioned by their being American having an edge over the pure Filipino but... let them be. They are in America anyway. Let it be an American problem. For the Fil-ams who came to visit, I think they were more surprised with what we are. And now they say they are proud Filipinos, too.
• Philippines
4 Sep 10
Good Morning! You should have been around earlier I kept giving the BR some where else. but this response of yours has a strong point. well, it still is alarming, most specially to those Filipino who reacted to this. well, the bragging thing is what concerned me also, i don't think pure blooded pinoys are gonna take that well. jboy sure did experience it. Well, one question is? are we supposed to let it be? or another problem that the community needs to address. i think when we take it as our own, what happens to that ordinary person, would he make his or her own destiny to make him/herself proud of being a filipino instead of bragging on some one elses achievement? just curious..i admit, am not getting any younger. i fear what might become of the next generation..... i hope you had your coffee.
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• Philippines
5 Sep 10
Hi Knight, the coffee was bitter but was good as an upper. Just woke up from a Sunday afternoon nap. The caffeine is now working... The Fil-ams have a new life in America. They are Americans now. They just couldn't shake off being Filipino because their parents are probably 1st generation expatriates. Besides our constitution has a provision to recognize anyone with Filipino blood as Filipino. In time though, those who were born and bred in America will most likely become Americans. So they will be not a problem to us. As for us, it is our duty to maintain peace in our land and do our best to be progressive in our fields. Whatever it is we do, like a street sweeper keeping Roxas Boulevard clean, is already heroism. You who had been so vocal in expressing why we must work against corruption in the government, and maintain peace and order even in a simple traffic altercation, are already making a difference. It had been over a century since Rizal and his comrades had given their lives for us to have that desired freedom from bondage, but well, everything will come to terms in time. We were just delayed, or perhaps Filipinos are late bloomers, but we will get there.
• Australia
6 Sep 10
I forgot to mention that although I tried to load that youtube video you pasted in your post, I wasn't able to watch it simply because the PC I was using didn't have a speaker at that time. So I didn't know what was in it. The only links I managed to open were the twitter pages and that La-ruh girl. As I understand it, Filipino pride is just how eileen described it.
@se7enthbird (8328)
• Philippines
2 Sep 10
everyone has their right on their opinion, though sometimes sighting their opinion hurts someone and that someone will fight back, it becomes a never ending battle of who is better and who is not. there are also people who hate stupidity and when read something on the net they correct the person in a rude way. i dont think it is racism it is that other people have traits that are not as down to earth as other has. you can correct someone without humiliating them or you can give your own views in a certain matter without using sarcastic words. like in mylot this is a site of discussions and opinions and perceptions. there is no right and no wrong but some people will say something sarcastic on the opinion you have but that does not mean it is racism its just other people think their opinion is right or better. just my opinion.
• Australia
3 Sep 10
hello 7thbird, I know I would only sound defensive. But the way the comments went, I think they weren't just honest, sarcastic opinions. They were "racist" opinions. Read how they address those words to ALL FILIPINOS, generalizing us, BRANDING us. Isn't that racism? Yes, some of us can really act like we're stuck in the primate level, but it doesn't mean all of us do. And it doesn't mean their race, or your race is free from flaws. The thing is, before you pull out a splinter from the eye of your brother, pull out that log first from your own eyes. I know the types of opinions that need to be respected. And those statements do not deserve to be respected. Sorry if I disagreed to you. Just take it from a hurting Filipino citizen.
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello seven, well, that's the price of freedom of speech and democracy. people can say what ever they want to say, regardless of what other people think. sometimes i wonder when will the "get along" times would ever occur. i guess there's a reason for racism or else they won't say those things.
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• Australia
6 Sep 10
Freedom of speech,LK is not freedom to just say anything even if it is rude or hurting. Freedom of speech is to say anything WITHIN its scope, within certain boundaries. There is freedom to say opinion. But there is no such thing as freedom to make racist remarks. Freedom comes responsibility.
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
It will end when Filipinos start to respect each other's differences. In our very own country i experienced this kind of discrimination and it hurts the most because those who discriminate me are my so called "my fellow countrymen".I grew up and live in Davao City, Philippines and my native language is Visayan(Bisaya). But when i came to Manila to work; of course i had to speak Tagalog and sometimes i mispronounced a Tagalog word and because of that they laughed at me. Eventhough i just ignore it but deep inside it's humiliating to me when they laughed at my mistake.I wonder why Tagalog is our national language when a lot of people in the Philippines speak Visayan (just wondering...)
• Philippines
4 Sep 10
No wonder some hate tagalogs or curious why most people in Luzon don't speak Visaya. the only possible thing to end racism in this country is when ALL FILIPINOS gets to learn all the "DIALECT" from LUZON, VISAYAS, and MINDANAO. for me, i believe that's a possible way to decrease racism or crab mentality to this country. we still have gaps.
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• Australia
6 Sep 10
Hi jpjnnfr....it's almost the same with why English is now considered (almost) the Universal language or international language when in fact, there are more people who can speak Spanish. I do not know if that is really the case. I never thought there were more Spanish speaking people than English speakers. Visayans are also being mocked for our "hard/rigid tongue". Dionisian accent, as they call it now.
• United States
2 Sep 10
Just like the U.S., you all have to learn to get along, and put the racism aside. I have cousins who are Filipino-American, and lately my family has not been speaking to them as much as we used to because of what the mother said to my family. It was hurtful, mean, and cruel, and it made us all look bad. She made it sound like being Filipino was better than being an American. My advice to Filipinos, let go of your pride, and embrace diversity.
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello rogue, You know with your experience and with the one at the video. it's really giving me the impression that Filipinos are a bit different abroad. makes me think of what would happen if the Philippines would become the first world.I sure would like to know what this person did say to your family. maybe there's a reason why the country is still in the Third World State.
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• Australia
6 Sep 10
Hi LK, allow me to agree to that. Maybe that's why up to now, we are down in the dumps because we are not yet ready for any grace. I think what most Filipinos need is not a change in the bank account but change in attitude. I know we have flaws. But we still don't deserve any of those rude remarks
@Joman122 (118)
• Canada
3 Sep 10
I hate it when the media does this, it gives our culture a bad name. Just because one person commits a crime, it means that everyone from his heritage will also do crimes! How about the americans, murders here, angry riots there... but they always get tourists flowing in. No need to blame every filipino for being cruel because of one man's mistake.
• Philippines
4 Sep 10
well, i guess they're just reporting. last night i was able to watch news in CNN about the fil-am chef who had been interviewed again after winning that super-chefs battle in a cooking show.
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• Philippines
3 Sep 10
hi i am a filipino and im proud to be...i agree that filipino people stab each others back thats the thing that i hate but i dont hate filipinos in general....=)
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello angel, It also happens in this country. i don't know what went wrong some where along the road. what made us discriminate each other this way. well, am glad you're proud of being one. have a great day.
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@Rich70 (18)
• United States
3 Sep 10
You seem to have trouble sleeping over everything. It's human nature to find a reason to hate other people, humans still have a wolf pack mentality.
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello Rich, well, it's a long way from evolution.humanity i believed is still in the process of evolution.for now, all this we have to endure.
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@dawnald (84148)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Sep 10
Racism exists in every country between not only different "races" (ie caucasian vs. asian vs black), but also between religions, nationalities, language groups, etc. It's a human thing. What else can you do but refuse to be part of it, condemn it, educate people and hope that our children will learn better.
• Philippines
3 Sep 10
Hello dawnland, I wonder what would happen if their lives were to turn around in a sec. and then force them back to the Philippines, knowing they knew her as a Filipino racist. but i am sure most of the Fil-Ams are nice and good people. i pity of what they will become if karma hits them hard.
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• Philippines
7 Sep 10
I really don't discriminate my fellow Filipinos and even other nationalities. as long as we can live together in peace why should I. I do however hate those Filipino-Chinese or even those that pretend that there is Filipino blood in them but in reality they are Chinese. These are business owners that pay below minimum wage As prescribed by law and they dont give privileges to their workers yet they are the richest people in the Philippines. Ilongo, Ilocano, Cebuano, Bisaya, Tagalog, kapampangan, it doesn't make any sense. We can live with one another but with them it is a different matter. I just hope that they could change in due time because hate among them would make nothing. take for example the Kidnapping..
@maylaine (444)
• Philippines
6 Sep 10
yah it is really sad to know that there are some of our fellow filipino speak that way....but you know what it so happened that they are filinos, the real problem is themselves....their character, personality and individuality...because i believed our nationality does not affect our personality. And beside Filipinos are still known from being kind and talented and hospitable....just like other country,,,not all asians are good but not all are bad the same thing with americans or europeans... I just pity those people who hate who they really are coz they will never find their true colors...Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!!! Arriba Letran......