Reid gets sneaky and no one is really talking about it

United States
September 21, 2010 2:18pm CST
All anyone is talking about is don't ask don't tell when it comes to the military budget bill that is up for a vote.....but did you know that Reid stuck the "dream act" in there too? Amnesty for some of the illegals here is what it is. Yet no one...not even the press is really talking about it. Sneaky Reid...he was hoping it would pass without anyone noticing until it was too late. Talk about low down. If he wants to tackle immigration reform fine...but do it in an open and honest way that includes letting the American public know what is going on and is up for debate. Cutting us out of the debate tends to tick us (the American Public) off...but then Reid has never really cared about that much now has he? What do you think?
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@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
21 Sep 10
Any idea why they call it the dream act? It sure is misleading you would think they were doing some sort of sleep disorder study. Well Reid is probably trying to win back support of his casino buddies since they are very pi$$ed at him this year. One thing I will say, no I'm not defending Reid, is that all politicians seem to sneak in their bits into big bills that people want passed. Any other way they just wouldn't get passed would they?
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@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
21 Sep 10
Well we only accept it because we have short term memory loss.
@Taskr36 (13926)
• United States
22 Sep 10
People accept it because they're too lazy or ignorant to know what's in bills. Every bill is just "Defense bill", "Health care bill", "Education bill" or the big winner "Patriot Act". As such what's in it doesn't matter. If you oppose it, you are anti-education, anti-military, anti-health care, or you just hate your country.
@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
22 Sep 10
Well that maybe be true but, Americans suffer from short term memory loss. By the time reelection rolls around they forgot or forgive the person their voting for because the other candidates available stink worse than that person; or no other candidates are available. It's like my counties sheriff, he runs unopposed every time he is up for reelection and he has been up on charges and taken to court many times. The Republican party never puts anyone against him. He's like 70 or 80 years old, been investigated by whatever federal department that oversees crime by law enforcement and yet, still runs unopposed.
@gewcew23 (8012)
• United States
21 Sep 10
We currently have a military policy that allows foreigners to serve in the military to gain citizenship. To my knowledge this is for people who were children when they came to this country illegally with their parent, for can that be their fault. So they are allowed to serve this country and in return become citizen. They would actually be doing more to become citizen than I did. I was just lucky born in this country, they on the other hand they get the honor of putting their life on the line to become a citizen.
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@anniepa (27162)
• United States
21 Sep 10
I don't see it as "sneaky" at all and they definitely HAVE been talking about it. It hasn't been getting the attention of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", but that's probably because DADT is a more controversial and contentious amendment, not to mention more partisan. the "Dream Act" actually WAS a very bipartisan bill, in fact it was once sponsored by John McCain among other Republicans. I'm wondering what is so WRONG with this amendment? I mean, if someone is willing to put his or her life on the line by serving in the military, don't they deserve the right to become a citizen eventually? To be honest, I thought that provision was already in place. Also, since it applies to those who came here by the time they reached the age of 16, they obviously, at least in the overwhelming majority of cases, didn't come on their own. They were BROUGHT here by their parents. Shouldn't they be given a decent chance to better themselves and become productive, TAX-PAYING members of society? Anyway, it doesn't matter now, the GOP blocked the entire Defense bill. Suddenly they have an aversion to amendments, having apparently forgotten all the amendments they'd attached to the same bill many times in the past. They've also apparently forgotten that refusing to fund our troops equates being pretty much on the side of the terrorists. I guess it's different when it's done to protect themselves from those pesky gays and immigrants! Annie
@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
21 Sep 10
I'm confused, so the "dream bill" is for illegals serving in the military or just illegals in general? Because how are illegals serving in the military? Don't they have to fill out an I-9 just like everyone else who is getting a job?
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@Taskr36 (13926)
• United States
21 Sep 10
Zephyr, it would allow illegals who were brought here by their parents at a young age to become citizens if they joined the military. That's a bit of an oversimplification, but basically the deal. Annie, I don't have an opinion on DADT, as I've never served and I'd rather let military experts make a determination on that. All immigrants should have to go through the appropriate challenges. There's already a push to change an amendment because of all the anchor babies, now this would be an even bigger reward for illegal aliens. They don't have to come here and HAVE a baby, they just need to BRING a baby, or child and they'll have their anchor in our country despite violating our law by coming here.
@anniepa (27162)
• United States
21 Sep 10
Taskr, we're going to have to agree to disagree here. As I understand it this bill wouldn't affect the parents of those who came here as children. Annie
@Taskr36 (13926)
• United States
21 Sep 10
Yeah, just put something like this into a military budget bill. Typical garbage. See this way either republicans support something their against, or every democrat in the house and senate gets to call them "anti-military". Funny how not so long ago he wanted to block anchor babies from becoming citizens and now he's Mr. Amnesty for young illegals.
@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
21 Sep 10
What's an anchor baby? The picture I'm getting isn't a pretty one.
@Taskr36 (13926)
• United States
21 Sep 10
An anchor baby is term referring to a child born in this country to parents that are illegal aliens. That child than serves as an anchor to keep the parents in this country despite their illegal status.
@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
21 Sep 10
Ah when I lived out west we had a different term for them but, it is probably against TOS
@matersfish (6311)
• United States
21 Sep 10
I seen on Bill Maher just last week, and I've heard from liberal media countless times, that, "the Democrats won the election; America spoke, now get out of the way and let them pass their legislation." And every time I hear it, I scratch my head and wonder if the people saying that are just literally stupid or if they're partisan just to be partisan and don't care that sneaky legislation is not the will of the American people. Sure. They were elected. Bravo. But what's Congress' approval rating? In the teens? Obviously people aren't hoping they simply push anything through. And should we voters really be reminding politicians that saying X and hiding Y while ramming an unplanned Z down our throats isn't kosher? No. Being in office doesn't give you the floor to do whatever you want. And the fact that this type of stuff is snuck into legislation is proof in itself that this is not the will of "America." It's the will of Reid and his ilk. What has been open and honest about this administration? Love them or hate them, even the startup Obama Spend-a-Thon 3000 was outsourced and filled with tons of little hidden goodies that we didn't know about and still don't really know about. Other than the fact that 1 job costs over 200k (or more?) to "produce," I think we're all lost. Then the healthcare legislation was--and still really friggin is!--confusing - not to mention prices are actually on the rise. And we're also supposed to be on board with some eventual Euro-style cap and trade for carbon allowances and penalties and blah! What do they plan to sneak into yet another gigantic bill when the middle-of-the-road bills are nothing but back doors for politicians choosing to be sneaky? Politics make me sick to even think about. It's a surprise we haven't bowled over the entire lot yet.
@laglen (19783)
• United States
21 Sep 10
I posted about this about a week ago. Yes that was very sneaky and this type of crap is why Reid cant get stuff passed.
@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
21 Sep 10
I guess I do know...I have been on the phone and the internet non-stop for two days calling and writing everyone I know and don't know, that I think I may be able to sway to stop this dam thing. This is what crooks do when they know that they cannot do something legally. They tag something onto another bill that has to pass. Reid should be horse whipped. He is a but kisser from the word go. The only thing is, he is never going to reap any benefits from kissing up.