spirituality v. religion?

United States
October 7, 2010 1:48pm CST
so today i went to my A.A. meeting and the topic of discussion was being spiritual without a religion. i heard a lot of different views on this but its still got me thinking about it. how can you be spiritual without a religion? what do you pray to? do you pray? people had different answers but it still didn't make sense to me. maybe because im not as experienced in life as they are but it just didn't make sense. what are your views on this?
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4 responses
• United States
10 Oct 10
I believe that you can be spiritual and not be religious. I personally am an atheist but enjoy researching and understanding things about religion. I used to believe in some higher power (and I still dont rule it out) but I was never part of any religion. I have always thought that if there is a God, we are not capable as humans to understand him. Religions just try to say that they are correct. If I was born in a Muslim counrty it is almost guaranteed that I would practice Islam. I feel like wherever you are born basically defines your religious views. We think they are wrong, they think we are wrong, but really it isnt our own views it is just what people have told us. That is why I feel like people should just be good humans, and believe in a higher power. I consider this to be spiritual and it takes you away from all the numerous negative things that come from religion. Any person who is religious I am not trying to bash you. I think individual religion can be good, it is just the overall depiction of religion that I am against.
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• Philippines
7 Oct 10
For me term spiritual goes along with religion. You can pray anywhere.. And whatever your religion is we have told to have GOD and that was our creator.. Whatever your religion is and whoever the name of your God, we all believe that he is the one who creates us.. I am not particular with other people religions and never comes in my mind to changed as it was been teached by my parents since i was a child and that God I believe in. You're right, I cant even imagine then how to be spiritual without a religion.
@AD11RGUY (1265)
• United States
7 Oct 10
Also from Answers.com: Spirituality is the belief in a soul or spirit and the relationship between it, everyday life and "what comes next" (if anything). Atheists can indeed be spiritual, as they simply don't believe in a deity, but can believe in another inner force rather than an external one. And from Buzzle.com: How To Be A Spiritual Atheist Being an atheist doesn't mean rejecting spirituality. Here is one atheist's understanding of the spiritual. How To Be A Spiritual Atheist Enlarge Image A spiritual atheist? Perhaps it's a strange concept if you only think spirituality has to mean a belief in a god. Do the two have to be related? Many people think of the historical Buddha as a spiritual person, but most don't know that he never expressed a belief in a god. He even discouraged his followers from such "speculation," preferring that they work on their salvation in this world. Computer Spirituality Imagine a computer that has begun to get so complex and powerful that it starts to ask questions "outside the box." It starts to become conscious. The first thing it would realize is that for all its computing capacity, it is still very limited. The humans who use it, most of whom can't begin to understand it's complicated algorithms, still are more powerful. They see the world more clearly. The computer could recite a million facts, perhaps, and yet not know what to use them for. It could describe human psychology, and yet not understand a smile. It wouldn't even know why it existed, or what it was being used for. If it came to understand these limitations, and to actually wonder about the world outside its circuits, and to desire to see more, and to grow - that would be computer spirituality. Atheist Spirituality An atheist simply doesn't believe in a god. There isn't sufficient evidence, so there is no belief. Contrary to what many think, there is no need for an atheist to disprove that a god exists, anymore than a Christian needs to disprove that the world is ruled by intelligent termites. The burden of proof is always with the person making a positive assertion. An atheist can recognize the mystery of life, and marvel at how everything learned deepens that mystery, pushing "final" causes further into the distance. An atheist can recognize his or her own limitations, and seek to grow, perhaps even by developing contact with "higher powers." This is an atheist spirituality. How is it different from "regular" spirituality? The difference is that an atheist feels no need to pretend to understand the mysteries - no need to create gods and religions to explain them. Contacting "higher powers" can simply be tuning into subconscious resources through meditation or other means. Are these "higher powers" nothing more than electrical patterns in our brains? We don't know, and we don't have to know to tap into them. Is it that atheists don't want to know? It is the opposite. "Understanding" by forcing religious explanations on things short circuits any search for the truth. How can you understand and integrate new evidence when you are no longer questioning? Better to simply use spiritual tools like "intuition" and let them be understood - or not - with time and real evidence. Look to the past, and we see how narrow-minded people were, and how little they understood compared to us. We will appear that way to people in the future, as they will to people further into the future. We are growing in our knowledge and power, but like that spiritual computer, our circuits are in a box that we need to grow out of. Seeking the way beyond that box is what makes one a spiritual atheist. Steve Gillman has been exploring new ideas for decades. Visit his site for invention ideas, business ideas, story ideas, political and economic theories, deep thoughts, and more. Get a free gift too: New Ideas (http://www.999ideas.com) By Steve Gillman So there are people who fully practice spiritually without any religion. As it has always been, it is a matter of the individual's choice of what they believe.
@AD11RGUY (1265)
• United States
12 Oct 10
No, Atheism isn't considered a religion. There is no ritual procedure that is practiced, nor is there a particular doctrine preached or followed.
• United States
10 Oct 10
thank you for your response. so, atheism isnt a religion then?
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@AD11RGUY (1265)
• United States
7 Oct 10
Many American Indians are spiritual. But what is their religion? The KKK is a Christian organization, but where's their spirit? From Answers.com, religion is defined as: 1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. 2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. 2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order. 3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. 4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. Also from the same source, spiritual is: 1. Of, relating to, consisting of, or having the nature of spirit; not tangible or material. See synonyms at immaterial. 2. Of, concerned with, or affecting the soul. 3. Of, from, or relating to God; deific. 4. Of or belonging to a church or religion; sacred. 5. Relating to or having the nature of spirits or a spirit; supernatural. As you can see, there is some overlap. But being spiritual does not require a religion. A spiritual connection with a friend of yours is not a religious event. You can be of differing religious standing, yet connect with each other in a way that is soul fulfilling. A religious connection with a friend of yours is not necessarily spiritual, i.e. you attend the same church but don't necessarily share the same view or belief of the religion's purpose. It's a fine line of difference on the surface going strictly by definition. But in practice, the two words can be worlds apart.
• United States
10 Oct 10
thank you for your response! [: i can definitely see the similarities & differences now.
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
4 Jan 11
I am spiritual, but not religious. I believe in the soul/spirit, but I do not belong to any organized religion. Some people consider themselves to be spiritual, but not religious because they believe in something that the typical atheist would consider woo. They may or may not believe in a god, perhaps even follow the Bible or other religious text, but may not consider themselves to belong to a particular relgion. For example, my mom believes in God and considers herself a Christian, however, she doesn't attend any church and does not consider herself to be a member or any specific religion. Therefore she is spiritual, but not religious. I don't pray to anyone. I don't believe in any god nor deity. I believe in energy. Karma is simply the balance of said energy. Life is the movement. All things are just energy vibrating at different frequencies.