Hey MyLotter! I need your take on this one!!!

@dloveli (4369)
United States
October 13, 2010 8:37pm CST
Hey guys listen to this one. Most of you know I design, make, and sell jewelry on my free time. Lately, i havent really had time to do so. However, a few weeks ago Myself, my daughter and a friend went to a yardsale. One of the woman selling things was selling some pieces she had made. So I began talking to her about how I make jewelry. All of a sudden some guy interrupts and asks me if I have a card. I told him I was sorry I didnt have any with me so my daughter gave him my number. He said he was out of work and trying to start buying up jewelry, crafts and things he can sell at consignment shops, flea markets, etc. He called me, we met. He also sent me several emails telling me he wanted to buy as much product as I could make and so forth. I met him, he looked over my stuff and ordered 20 necklaces and twenty bracelets. Among them he wanted specialty pieces. He gave me a $200 deposit to which I was to use for supplies. Jewelry can get expensive. Anyways he wanted all this to be done in 5 days. I took two days off work and completed it.I worked so hard. The pieces were worth way more than what I was getting but I thought it was a way to get my stuff out there. When we met I brought entire order with me. and He paid me a balance of $208 which means I received $10 for each piece. That evening he emailed me wanting more pieces for less money. He wanted me to take all one color bead throw on a string and sell it to him for $6.50. I responded that I like to make beautiful pieces that people will remember. Its my craft. Any child can throw beads on a string. My mom works at a nursing home they do that. I told him I was sorry but i was interested in making and selling pieces that I can be proud of. We were even. I owed him nothing. to be honest I really only made $48 on whole deal after replacing my inventory of beads and supplies. This was three weeks ago. Today I receive an email that he wants his money back because three pieces broke. I told him I would fix the three but im not giving him anything. Jewelry is to be handles carefully he threw it in his backpack. Even still I think his business isnt doing well so lets try to threaten the single mom making extra money. He said he's taking me to court. I said ok see you there. Next thing I know I now receive an email saying make me 24 pieces to my specification and I wont take you to court. I told him no i will fix three broken out of good faith other than that See you in court. I have all emails stating how he wanted more. Plus i have two receipts one for deposit and other for remaining balance. Plus I have these texts that he sent today. Am I right? I dont owe him anything. He took all pieces plus 6 extra, plus my display hanger that he was supposed to return. the reason I gave the hanger is because it will be best way to transport. Am I in danger or losing? Everyone I talked to said Im good. He's just trying to get his cake and eat it too. What do you think. Any lawyers out there? anyone watch people's court or judge judy? HELP!
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22 responses
@GardenGerty (97947)
• United States
14 Oct 10
I think you are good. It seems that it may be bad for him to have your contact information. He is out to make a buck fast. He probably does this to people all of the time and gets away with it.He just did not realize that you are not a pushover. Smart girl, saving all the receipts is a good move.
@dloveli (4369)
• United States
16 Oct 10
Thanks Gert! I couldnt believe he actually thought I was some pushover. What troubled me was I had given him the jewelry on a hanger made especially for this. He said he would return it to me and then he wrapped all jewelry around the hanger and shoved it in a black leather messenger bag. Its funny I said to myself hes gonna ruin them. You dont wrap your necklaces or bracelets around something and throw it in a bag. That very evening He ordered 12-18 more. Just the other day after all his threats, he said if I make 24 more he wouldnt take me to court. What? Im so glad you responded Gert. Your opinion means alot. dl
• Philippines
14 Oct 10
He's tricking you. i think you should fight in the court. and if you do win, and see him after months, "punch him in the face" this is a lesson for me, maybe i should be more careful with future customers whom i think trying to scam,blackmail or outsmart me
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@dloveli (4369)
• United States
29 Oct 10
Letran I agree with you wholeheartedly! I intend on kicking is scummy a$$ in time. However, thank heavens I watch a ton of court tv. One thing they always say is receipts with explanations on them. On the first receipt I wrote for supplies bal due at time of delivery. The second states balance paid in full. That night he sent me an email saying how happy he was and wanted to order 18 more pieces. He couldnt have been that unhappy. thanks for your input. dl
@RawBill1 (8542)
• Gold Coast, Australia
14 Oct 10
My take on this is that you are in the right. The guy sounds like a real idiot. He is definitely not a smart cookie if he is emailing threats to you about taking you to court. If you keep all the emails that he sends you as evidence, then I think you will be safe. Just try not to come across him in public anywhere. He sounds like he may be a bit of a loose cannon!
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@dloveli (4369)
• United States
29 Oct 10
You know what Bill? believe it or not I always seem to find the A$$holes. lol My friends say if there was a room filled with 100 people and one of them is an idiot. Id find the idiot. Im beginning to see the truth in that statement! lol I changed my number and email so now Im no longer irritated. However I did save emails, text, just in case. Thanks RB Happy MyLotting dl
@Thoroughrob (11750)
• United States
14 Oct 10
I don't think you are in danger of losing at all. I would definitely keep everything that I have. I would not even respond to him again unless it is over the 3 pieces that you said you would fix.
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@dloveli (4369)
• United States
22 Oct 10
He is literally harassing me. He told me if I make him 24 new pieces and he'll drop everything. I told him I would fix the three that he broke and that's it. I changed my email and phone number. dl
@savypat (20247)
• United States
14 Oct 10
Call your local court clerk and ask about the charges necessary to file a case in small claims court. I think this will releive you. Keep all your records and make notes of everything that happened include times and dates if possible. Then stop worry. I think you will find it's all just a fake to try to get you to do what he wants. Good Luck.
• India
14 Oct 10
I think you better stop trading with him! Because he will eventually lower your profit everytime he will give you his next order. Also, who knows he is crediting you for your work that is being displayed on shops. As for threat he is giving you, I think as long as you have the reciepts and other proofs that show you have dealed with him and as long as he had not bribed the judge; you are safe.
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@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
14 Oct 10
I think you are in your right to say no to him you did your job and he took them and paid you what happens after he received them isnt your fault he should have took good care of them also I have doubts that any are really broken or he would have brough then back to get fixed.
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• United States
14 Oct 10
IMO you are handling the situation correctly. Repair the broken pieces but that is all. He is trying to intimidate you so just you stand fast. This type of blackmail would only get him into deep trouble if he took you to court.... he might just end up in jail.
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@xtirving (38)
• United States
15 Oct 10
This is just one half of the story. IF he took you to court, he could lie. If he lied, you'd have evidence. You win, almost no matter what, according to your side. Instead of selling it to some stranger at a yard sale, sell it for what it is REALLY worth and make some real money. Don't worry because its not that big of a deal. The guy is threatening you through what, email? OH yeah he'll take a bunch of dashes and make a angry face. He is playing with your head by saying he will go to court. NOBODY will go to court over crap like that. He cant prove you gave him defective jewelry, he cant prove HE didn't break the jewelry, and above all he's, as i like to sarcastically say, a "tough guy". He's a beitch
• United States
15 Oct 10
sorry about that double post
@sminut13 (1786)
• Singapore
28 Oct 10
that's a conman! a swindler! i've only seen these types of cases on tvs or read about it in storybooks but this is the first you could say, that i've come across in reality; that is it happened to you. i don't think you owe him anything. you already offered to fix the 3 that were broken and not many do that. also, who knows if he broke it accidentally himself as he was being careless? making 24 pieces so that he won't take you to court is a little too much. it takes a lot of time and that too, you'd have to do out of your own pocket money isn't it. like others have suggested, and if he's still saying court and all, then you might as well make his wish come true. you have the receipts and all and also, i think you did the right thing in offering to fix and not return the money. he know know that 'once broken, considered sold'. hehe;p anyway i hope it's all fixed now good day
@snowbitz (487)
• Philippines
27 Oct 10
You're in the right track.But of course be a little cautious all the time because base in your story, i think he does it all the time.And ask the advice of a police man.Be careful always
@dawnald (84131)
• Shingle Springs, California
25 Oct 10
Sounds like he's trying to take advantage of you. I think offering to repair the 3 pieces is really all you should have done. I'd say you're fine.
• United States
19 Oct 10
keep the email with the "you do this,and i won't do this" and keep it if he does try to take you to court.that's extortion right there. crap like this is exactly why i got out of seamstressing.people are always trying to pull something,no matter which type of creating.
@dorannmwin (36698)
• United States
16 Oct 10
Let this man take you to court because the only thing that anyone would be out would be the money to pay for his lawyer. In fact, I wouldn't even bother taking a lawyer with me to small claims court because he really has nothing at all on you. You've done nothing wrong and because of the fact that you still have the recipts from where the man paid you is all the proof that you will need. Wow, he really does want to have his cake and eat it too.
@RobtheRock (2485)
• United States
15 Oct 10
I agree that everything looks to be in your favor. You earned the money and deserve to keep it.
@xtirving (38)
• United States
15 Oct 10
This is just one half of the story. IF he took you to court, he could lie. If he lied, you'd have evidence. You win, almost no matter what, according to your side. Instead of selling it to some stranger at a yard sale, sell it for what it is REALLY worth and make some real money. Don't worry because its not that big of a deal. The guy is threatening you through what, email? OH yeah he'll take a bunch of dashes and make a angry face. He is playing with your head by saying he will go to court. NOBODY will go to court over crap like that. He cant prove you gave him defective jewelry, he cant prove HE didn't break the jewelry, and above all he's, as i like to sarcastically say, a "tough guy". He's a beitch
@xtirving (38)
• United States
15 Oct 10
This is just one half of the story. IF he took you to court, he could lie. If he lied, you'd have evidence. You win, almost no matter what, according to your side. Instead of selling it to some stranger at a yard sale, sell it for what it is REALLY worth and make some real money. Don't worry because its not that big of a deal. The guy is threatening you through what, email? OH yeah he'll take a bunch of dashes and make a angry face. He is playing with your head by saying he will go to court. NOBODY will go to court over crap like that. He cant prove you gave him defective jewelry, he cant prove HE didn't break the jewelry, and above all he's, as i like to sarcastically say, a "tough guy". He's a bietch
@celticeagle (117590)
• Boise, Idaho
15 Oct 10
I do agree with you. THis is a learning experience for you too sad to say. I would continue to deal with him professionally and do just as you are doing. I certainly wouldn't do any more business with him. I see no reason why you would lose anything. Even if you do go to court which I very much doubt. He was just trying to scare you with that. You have all your receipts and information so I wouldn't worry about it. Just don't do anymore business with him and don't worry about the display hanger.
• United States
14 Oct 10
such a user,scammer,tricky manhe will get a bad karma from God sooner or later!just dont delete all of his messages on your phone and email girl..so whatever may be happen you got a proof if he is goin to bring you to court.if the jewelry gt broke its not your problem,its his problem.when you gave it to him its all good and he likes them.and i think its not really broke,he just say that so he can get his money back with your stuffs(jewelries,hangers).
• Philippines
14 Oct 10
You don't need to panic. At least you realized he has bad intentions. The best thing for you to do is to get rid of him. Don't bother to communicate with him anymore and don't even try fix those broken ones. Ignoring him will do the trick and if he sues you then save all the emails and text messages he gave you so that you can have evidences. No evil things last long in a person of good faith.