shooting bambi and thumper better than eating bacon?

@jb78000 (15178)
October 17, 2010 7:40pm CST
i would have said so. i am a vegetarian so this is not really an issue for me. however ethically i think shooting wild animals for food is an awful lot more humane than pretending pork grows on trees and supporting factory farming. this is especially so when the bambis and thumpers in question are going to be shot anyway, for example because they have become a pest or because the populations are out of control following the extermination of large predators. yet there are plenty of people who have no problem with eating a nice bacon sarnie but feel a bit squeamish about eating cute wild furries. any opinions from meateaters?
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@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
18 Oct 10
I grew up on a farm and the deer would destroy our crops so we were allowed to legally shoot them so I ended up eating a lot of deer meat growing up. We never bought beef. We did however buy pork and needless to say even as an adult I would much rather eat deer than pork, it's so much more healthier. My family had the little mantra, "eat what you kill".
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@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
i think you could also have the one 'be prepared to kill what you eat'. if you can't bear the idea of killing an animal then i think you should think twice about eating them. it seems rather dishonest.
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@ZephyrSun (7387)
• United States
18 Oct 10
True but, I can one up you, we had to each learn how to dress a deer.
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@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
omg! so when people talk about 'dressing their dogs for halloween' they mean...
@hvedra (1623)
18 Oct 10
People forget that rabbits can cause a lot of damage to food crops. In the UK they are not a native species either so I have no qualms about eating wild rabbit. I will avoid farmed rabbit because it is mostly factory farmed in China, I always make sure mine is wild. I try to get free-range meat when I can and if I had the space I'd raise my own pigs and poultry (I keep a few hens for eggs but there isn't the space for more). I recently had some venison given to me by a local farmer and it was very nice. If I could live off wild game I would but there's no way we could all do that!
@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
i doubt there would ever be a need to buy farmed rabbit. wild ones are hardly in short supply here.
@hvedra (1623)
19 Oct 10
Wild rabbit isn't in short supply here either, it's just economics that causes the sale of factory rabbit. A seller can make more off of cheap, factory farmed frozen rabbit than from hunted rabbit. Originally all the rabbits in the UK were farmed, the Normans brought them over after the conquest. All the wild ones you see are descended from escaped rabbits.
@jb78000 (15178)
19 Oct 10
our 'heres' are pretty much the same place. and that is awful. battery rabbits
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@RawBill1 (8542)
• Gold Coast, Australia
18 Oct 10
Well, I am not a meat eater, but I have to agree with you as wild animals are leading a happier life until the moment they are killed. Most are not aware they are going to die and are not in pain at the moment they die if it is a clean kill. Factory farms put enormous stress on the animal and apparently this causes a significant difference in the taste and texture of the meat. It is tougher to eat and not so flavoursome as wild game because of the stress that the animal lives under. Natural chemicals are also released into the animal as it realises it is going to die and these chemical imbalances get transferred into the meat that people buy. This is what I have heard anyway.
@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
i think that is true. it is definitely true for kangaroo meat.
@RawBill1 (8542)
• Gold Coast, Australia
18 Oct 10
Yes, I have eaten kangaroo and deer when I used to be a meat eater and it was the best meat I had. I do not like animals being killed, but I am not totally against hunting as introduced species are destroying the habitats of native animals here in Australia big time. Sadly for bunnies like yourself, rabbits have probably caused the most damage outside of humans here in Australia. Other introduced species such as Foxes, Cane Toads, Pigs, Deer, Buffalo and even Camels are spreading rapidly throughout the land too unfortunately.
@laglen (19783)
• United States
29 Oct 10
wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a bunny shootin minute! are you trying to say that pork DOESNT grow on trees? next thing ya know you will be saying that t-bones dont either! sheesh! you Europeans sure do have funny ideas! I just shoot animals for the fun. By the way, cow seems to be the easiest to hunt!
@jb78000 (15178)
29 Oct 10
why are you shooting animals for fun when there are perfectly good tourists running around?
@dawnald (84126)
• Shingle Springs, California
25 Oct 10
I have no objection to people hunting for meat, as long as it's not endangered animals, but I'm way to squeamish about it myself. As for factory farming, abomination. I'm not a vegetarian, but I do buy organic meat as much as I can.
@jb78000 (15178)
29 Oct 10
that's good
@inedible (773)
• Singapore
18 Oct 10
I don't have any problem eating meat from wild animals (as long as it's legal), and I don't know anyone who does. Maybe people just think farm animals are safer, since they're regulated? I know a lot of people claim farm animals are full of hormones or whatever, but that all just sounds like a lot of scaremongering.
@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
well they are, whether or not it affects people i don't know. i would have thought the cooking process would destroy any hormones etc.
• United States
18 Oct 10
I have no problem eating Bambi or Thumper I have eaten them both and liked it I have also eaten Flipper! hehe I think if you are going to shoot it you best be eating it I dont like sport hunters you know, the people that go out and shoot animals just for the sake of doing it the ones that hang just a part of the animal on the wall them discard the resy IMO its wasteful
@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
i hate that. killing to feed yourself - ok. killing to have something horrible to put on your wall - not ok.
@Qaeyious (2362)
• United States
18 Oct 10
My favorite was pheasant, though I had it only once. I had much more venison than anything else. I wish I could find them in stores, though I suspect they would be at least $50 a pound. I might have had rabbit once. (sorry) - I saw Food, Inc. again a few weeks ago reminding me of how farmed animals are treated. So I frequent restaurants that cater to local farmers, like Roxy's in Sacramento. http://www.roxyrestaurantandbar.com/ I also try to use the co-op that sell ONLY local organic produce and meat products, but it is so far from my house. And the McDonald's can serve my breakfast in a few minutes. I only go there once every two or three months though.
@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
i think local and freerange that is the best kind of meat to eat from the supermarket. eating once every two or three months at mcdonalds is not too bad, pity there isn't a competing and more ethical chain really.
@Celanith (2334)
• United States
18 Oct 10
My son just got his buck first day of hunting season today, Nice big one 11 point rack. Biggest one he ever got. We help suppliment our food with wild game. Don't eat pork as against religious beliefs. As a child we did raise our food, a beef or two, chickens and goats we butchered some out. MMMMMMM Venison stew delicious.
@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
my parents got bantams chickens when i was little. because they knew very little about chickens they got two roosters along with a few hens and obviously one had to be killed. that was the only home raised animal i ate at home. none of the other chickens got killed because they ended up becoming pets. just as well really because they didn't lay many eggs and those they did they hid.
@marguicha (80143)
• Chile
18 Oct 10
I have not eaten Bambis yet but I´m not a vegetarian (although as time goes by I eat less meat everyday). But I love rabbit and birds. I have no moral problem in eating meat.I refuse to worry too much about the animals in the world (although I think there should be good laws for endangered species)knowing that a billion PEOPLE die of hunger every year. Your post reminded me that I haven´t done my chore at freerice.com today to donate rice for hungry people. See you.
@Hatley (157423)
• Garden Grove, California
18 Oct 10
jb I have ate venison and its not that bad bu t I cannot eat a cute little bunny rab bit, it would be like cooking my own child and trying to eat it, it would be horrible. I will not eat Rabbit . I do not eat a lot of meat anyway and chicken and fish are the safest for us diabetics too as all the other stuff is full of fat and high cholesterol too. I do not support factory farming either. I like bacon but I have never heard of bacon sarnie sorry but I am a yank I guess I come from California in the US.
@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
i ate venison once when i was about ten. i seem to remember it was very dry but maybe that is just because it hadn't been cooked right. bacon sarnie btw = bacon sandwich.
@GardenGerty (89960)
• Marion, Kansas
18 Oct 10
As a child I ate food at my grandmother's that were dishes made with rabbit and squirrel. I was fond of squirrel and dumplings. I have not been anywhere in years that serves wild game. I occasionally have been given deer meat by people. I can easily use the ground meat in chili or pasta sauces. The steaks I had to put pretty strong seasonings on. I have never had a real run in with a deer, but my brother has had three cars ruined by colliding with deer. Several other people in my family have as well. I am sure I would get used to it if it were readily available.
@jb78000 (15178)
18 Oct 10
venison has a really strong taste doesn't it? i am not all that surprised by the damaging deer accidents. we have warning signs on the roads when there is a high chance of deer running across, and it is not just to protect the deer.