Why trying new Batsmen ,why not bowlers? , before world cup for team India.

India
October 21, 2010 5:47pm CST
In every series we see India trying new batsman to make their bench strength strong and trying new players and giving them experience.Its not batting but bowling department of India which is weak , what if Zaheer Bhajji or Nehra is are injured before or during the world cup? we dont have enough bench strength in bowling i think and Ashwin and Vinay Kumar are given chance a bit too late.Young bowlers like Unadkat Netravalkar ,Vinay kumar and Mithun along with others should have been givne chance like Virat Kohli Tiwary Dhawan etc are getting in batting department.I think bowling is india's main concern not batting of they have to win the world cup.Share your views.
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@ram_cv (16516)
• India
22 Oct 10
I think we are experimenting with a lot of bowlers as well before the world cup. Look at this list of fast bowlers that we have tried apart from Zaheer: Ishaant, Sreesanth, Praveen Kumar, Nehra, Mithun, Vinay Kumar. Only two more bowlers along with Zaheer will probably make the cut. In the spin bowling department apart from Bhajji we have the likes of Ojha, Mishra and Ashwin who have been tried and tested. Two of these will also make the world cup squad. Remember we have a lot of tweakers who can bowl part timers as well like Yuvraj, Jadeja, Raina, Sehwag!! So I think we are trying enough bowlers already. Cheers! Ram
• India
22 Oct 10
I agree with you friend its just that like Kohli, Raina, Vijay Rohit sharma are given enough chances same is not the case with bowlers, none of the talented bowlers were given enough chances like for example 6 or 7 games to prove themselves .What has happened is a bowler performs well in IPL or in a domestic match he is straight away picked up and then he is played couple of matches and he vanishes.Manpreet Goni showed some promise in IPL he was picked up , he played couple of games and he was out, same happened with Mithun ,Dinda and Umesh Yadav and to an extent with Ojha and Vinay kumar also, its good that Ojha got into test team and became a useful bowler otherwise he would have been still warming the benches waiting for his chance.If you see Virat Kohli he was given enough chances and now he is winning matches for India.So my point is if a batsman can get say 10 games to prove themselves why not a good bowler especially when India is struggling in bowling department .With this method how will we get a Zaheer or Srinath .They dont give enough chances to new bowlers and old talents like RP and Pathan are completely out of scene.This i am mentioning about limited overs cricket , in Tests India definitely has some good bowlers .Anyways it was nice interacting and discussing with you after long time , i was on a break.Thanks a lot for your response.
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@ram_cv (16516)
• India
3 Nov 10
Thanks for the best response. Cheers! Ram
• India
22 Oct 10
According to my views,India is basically a batting team. ther are more good batsmen available in India than good bowlers(may be due to the sub continent pitch). So there is lot of batsmen to pick and less bowlers. Actually the international team needs good bowlers now. But not many available for trying. Now India have tried Vinay kumar,Ashwin,Ojha,Mishra,Mithun etc. But no one is performing as excepted. But at any cost India should find out more bowlers otherwise the WC will be a tough one for India.
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@dollar3235 (2063)
• India
21 Oct 10
That could be because Indian domestic bowlers are not that good and at the same time, there is some politics also involved. Umesh Yadav, Unadkat etc are good bowlers but they are giving chances to only South Indian bowlers because of the selection committee members. It is sad but nothing can be done, I am wondering what kind of backup Jadeja has got?
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• India
22 Oct 10
I agree mate that there is a possibility of politics .Unadkat is definitely a good bowler and he will get a chance in future.I wonder that where is Netravelkar and other good bowler i forgot the name who shared the Indian pace attack along with Undakat in U 19 world cup, India lost at quarterfinal stage there but these bowlers performed well , but whtever is the plan of selection committee India has quite poor bowling attack in limited overs cricket at-least if not tests.
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• India
22 Oct 10
And thanks a lot for your response.
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• India
22 Oct 10
You're welcome, Gaurav. Now-a-days, I feel that in Cricket, everything is already fixed. In every match you will see a few things that will make you think of fixing. I still can not believe that India have won both the test matches with this kind of bowling attack. With this kind of bowling attack, even if we qualify for the semi finals in the world cup, I will be the happiest. They are selecting bowlers on their ability to bowl full-toss in the final overs. Best examples are Jadeja and Vinay Kumar. Still they will not include Irfan pathan saying that he is not in good form. Even if he is not in good form, he will give 60-70 runs in 10 overs or may be 10 runs more but what about his batting? Other Indian bowlers are doing the same thing but they are selected because they do not bat well. This kind of selection is perfect example of "Bull-S***t". No body is concerned about country, the only thing is regionalism and money. Dhoni is saying he wants an all rounder, has he forgot that Irfan has a century in test matches and he has won so many ODI and T20 matches for India not only by bowling but also by batting. He does not have any problem with short pitch bowling. Still he is not considered and they will say, he is not in good form............what the ..............
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@vijayanths (7878)
• India
22 Oct 10
It is quite unfortunate that having a population of over 1100 millions we are unable to spot a strike bowler to play for India. In fact we desperately need a all rounder like Kapil dev. We have enough batsmen, we now need to concentrate and find a few top bowlers soon if we really want to win world cup.There should be no politics in selection of players.
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• India
22 Oct 10
Its unfortunate for sure and to be frank right now India has only top bowler like Zaheer with Ishant Sharma and Sreesanth in making , but they are impressive only in tests , both of them are struggling in limited overs cricket, and you are correct in mentioning Kapil dev .After retirement of players like Kapil dev , Amarnath and Manoj prabhakar india has struggled to find an allrounder or even a brilliant fast bowler other than Srinath and Zaheer.Thanks a lot for your response.
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@rijovjohn (429)
• India
22 Oct 10
I also support you on this. Young bowlers should be given opportunity. It is bowling which is week. But inorder to to give opportunity this young players have to be impressive in local games. Even in ipl i cant see a good young fast bowler who can bowl at a regular speed of above 140 kmph. It is pathetic. Every one is paying attention in batting. The easiest way to get in to national team is to become a good bowler, or a good all rounder. India dont have an all rounder who can bowl medium fast .
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@sami00 (891)
• India
24 Oct 10
Hi, The Indian team is always strong in their batting line up.The bowling would be usually weak for the Indian team.I think when Kumble was playing for the Indian team there was some good bowling from the whole team.Even BHAJJI also used to bowl some good deliveries and bowl according to Kumble's instructions.Yes,you are also right that we are just trying new batsmen to make the batting department strong and the young bowlers are not getting enough chances.I think even the YOUNGSTERS don't use their chance in playing.Ashwin and Vinay will be successful but other bowlers like Mithun might not be successful as they give too many runs in their overs.The young batsmen usually grab heir chances and guide the team to victory.
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@venkit (2957)
• India
22 Oct 10
actually we dont have good bowler, because we dont have good bowling conditions. but still we are trying many but no one is capable to stay in international matches.
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24 Oct 10
i also agreed with your views. But as we all know team India always produces star batsman not the bowlers, thats why the strength of India is batting. On the other hand, India doesn't look after the matter of producing great bowlers. This is just ridiculous. Now, in modern cricket there is not any team that can survive longer only on one strength. Both batting and bowling is needed. As example you may remember the New zealand team in 1992 cricket world cup, where pakistan was the champion. In that world cup Newzealand team has won all the match before semifinal. In semi they have played with only 1/2 specialized bowlers and lost the match. Otherwise they were just tremendous before that. Almost every cricket specialist predicted that time newzealand as champion. But unfortunately they have lost the chance of winning the WC. Thats why it is obvious to look after the bowling more for the MEN IN BLUEs to win the WC. I think india management should aware about it. And thanks to srv for highlighting such a matter!!
@lou_is (668)
• India
23 Oct 10
I don't know how the Indian team selectors selects the team. Even they won't think about the bowlers. They thought Nehra, Zaheer, Ishant, Praveen Kumar, R.P. is enough to choose, but none of the above are in good form. They won't do bowling with the line and length. Praveen some what he will work with the spin. But the remaining very bad performance. If the same situation goes for world cup then sure we will loose because of our bowling weakness.
• India
22 Oct 10
Its quite simple actually why batsmen are more valued than bowlers. Under batting if you score a hundred runs in first class cricket its more valued than taking 2-3 wickets even in you take the most crucial man out yet the number taken is less in a match than you are given no preference on the other hand in batting if you manage to score a ton then you will catch the eyes of the selectors. So you ought to be really extraordinary and bag 5-7 wickets consistently. Overall the rule followed is the quantity of wickets you have taken not the quality of the way the wicket has been taken by a bowler
@anurag3786 (6275)
• India
22 Oct 10
I think our bowling department is a worrying topic. Because we don’t have any good fast bowler who always gives their consistent performance. And in last one day against Australia there are only 2 new bowlers have get chance for playing but I think no one was effective. Because R Vinay Kumar has given 71 runs in their 8 over and didn’t get any wicket. So he was a very costly in giving runs. And this was the reason that in last 4 over Aussies scored more than 60 runs. And also no any bowler was affected in last 10 over.