Unreasonable Job Requirements

@SinRealm (559)
Philippines
October 30, 2010 10:47am CST
I have been busy lately because of some issues. Anyways... On to topic. As you all know, the unemployment rate here in the Philippines is high. And because of that, it is a poor country. And... One reason why a lot can't get jobs... It is because of the job requirements. Mainly the Educational Attainment and Required schools. My aunt's daughter works for this company, and she does the rejecting and accepting of the applicants. Her order if the applicants don't come from La Salle, Ateneo and UP (top schools in the Philippines). Isn't that a little unfair? Those schools are hard to get into, either too expensive or too strict. Then... A few days ago, there is a job opening for a janitor, a low paying job. Now... Below the ad, it said that it requires a college graduate. Seriously... You pay so much to get into college, study so hard just to graduate and for a janitor position? What's the point? You probably paid more in your education than what you've earned. Call centers... Another job that requires a lot to enter and to think it is a third world job. Aren't these things way too troublesome? People need jobs... Why give them a hard time getting it? Skills are the most important part of the job, so why bother looking for a college degree?
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@jaiho2009 (39001)
• Philippines
30 Oct 10
hi, Call center is the only industry that doesn't require high educational attainment or school preferences. Have you ever tried applying to any call center company? You just need to be good with English,accent,pronunciation ,grammar and you're in. Unlike with the other companies that yes,school preferences...needs to be a LA SALLELITE or San Beda,Poveda whatever I.S school ? huh?.. One more funny thing with companies here in our country is Job hiring: Graduate of 4 years course At least 23-28 years old 3 years experience What the h*ck...why look for those qualification,3 years experience for an almost newly graduate. And,why age limit too,they think older people can not do same work as young people can do? it's an office work then dude (cr*p) The job hiring process and qualification here in our country is really one of the worst in the world (can't think of a any better word to say ) Have a great weekend though :=))
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@maean_19 (4662)
• Philippines
31 Oct 10
Precisely! I hate it also because they are promoting call center industry as a "must job"...Hey, did they think of those who does not want to risk their health working on night shifts?...What about those who want to be of service to the people and to the company? I really am unsatisfied with the job plans. That is why many of our professionals are working abroad because they can get a high paying job with a minimal requirement. Of course, the government wants that because OFW's contribute money to our economy here. What a heck really is happening here. They are creating jobs when in fact, the unemployment rate is increasing because the government does not seek to solve the main problem. It appears that when a college student applies to a call center before graduation, he/she do not plan to pursue it because he/she has a job. Hence, a wrong perception is being created in the minds of our students. Why graduate when there is a call center job?
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@SinRealm (559)
• Philippines
31 Oct 10
That's another thing I forgot to put, 3 years experience... How could anyone get experience if they can't even get jobs? 4 years course? I guess that is why a lot of nursing students ended up in call centers. @maean_19: I know what you mean, call center jobs are lowly jobs. Our country is training it's citizens to be servants instead of leaders. Remember the time when nursing was in demand? Everybody took up nursing, many nursing programs came up. And now call centers are in... Just in our street there are call center programs being promoted by some congresswoman. The system here is so messed up, doctors turning into nurses, nurses turning into call center agents... What's next? Call center agents turning into army men to boost our failing military? With the way the country goes... It can happen.
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@jaiho2009 (39001)
• Philippines
31 Oct 10
@ SinRealm, call centers are lowly jobs? have you ever tried applying for a job in call centers? do you think nurses or all nurses passed with call center requirements and interview process?
@maean_19 (4662)
• Philippines
31 Oct 10
I do not see and understand the point either. YOu are precisely right. I have been into recruitment agency before and am very much aware of those schemes that these company require for their applicants. Actually, there are many jobs available here, but due to high standard of job requirements, many are failing. As for me personally, there are people and there are too many of them who are good in application. What is the use of academic qualification when it comes to poor application? It is useless, right? I remember this company which I applied for the position as "Legal Officer". In their qualification, I have met all the requirements and perhaps even over qualified. I was called for an examination. Take note, examination and not an interview. What is the relevance of the exam? When I was at the employer's office, they asked me to have an exam. The exam had 5 categories: General, abstract, Mathematics, reading comprehension and completing phrases. What the heck is that. Each category is 1 -100 items and I need to finish it in 30 minutes. I already knew that I cannot finish all, so what I did is finish at least half of each category and try to go over it when I still get time. Unfortunately, I had no time to go over it because I did not finish it. When I passed my answer sheets, the HR manager said that they will just call me when the papers has been checked. Darn! I was disappointed because I really cannot figure out the relevance of said exam to my abilities. They never called me up. It was really a disappointing experience on my part because that was an unreasonable rejection.
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@SinRealm (559)
• Philippines
31 Oct 10
Ah, those unrelated exams, I just took one a few years ago. And it was such a pain, but I passed it. But... To make things worse, the interviewer didn't even take us seriously. Then after she found out about my educational attainment. She said I'm not qualified. It was very very annoying, if she said from the start that I'm not qualified because of my educational attainment, she should've at least not wasted my time and tell me from the start. She's not doing anything helpful. She's just being sadistic. Oh, and according to my friend, when they say "We'll call you!". 80% of the time, it means you failed. Isn't that quite rude, not only are you rejected, but at the same time, they waste your time making you wait for a call that would never arrive.
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@maean_19 (4662)
• Philippines
1 Nov 10
I remember as HR, I conduct interviews, give exams, evaluates resumes, etc. Because of my legal background, I have the courage to be always in debate with the management about irrelevant policies and rules from the BPO where I was employed. I was called as an antagonist. However, I know I was right and did the proper action. What I hate then on that company is that they call applicants for initial interview, only to waste their time and effort coming because most of them do not meet the minimum requirements as stated in the job order. I got exhausted everyday without any good result and I pity those applicants sometimes because those people are in dire need of a job. I cannot understand why probationary period is established when from the start, you never gave those applicants the chance and rejected them. As for me, I am fighting for the job seekers ability and capability to do the task and not based on their educational attainment or for not passing the exam or interview, etc. That is the main purpose of probationary period - to test the ability and capability of the person. I knew many who passed the exams whether Board exam or admission exams, but are poor in application.
@SinRealm (559)
• Philippines
1 Nov 10
I guess most companies have staff that aren't qualified for the job of HR. And as for what you've said. I agree with you. Not all people are good at application. Some are good at exams while others are just good at application. People are different from one another and it is up to the company to see what their applicants are capable of and assign them a task that is in need.
@kath83 (82)
• Philippines
30 Oct 10
I is so frustrating that only graduates from La Salle, Ateneo, UA&P, UP and other top ranked schools landed a good job and payed high. The only solution for those who want to get a job is to apply to call center industries. But call centers are getting strict right now. I applied to some and got rejected, because they are now looking for graduate of a 4 year course. I stopped from school and reached 4th year college at UST. They even discriminate school eg. UST and schools from the provinces. HSBC Alabang called and did an interview, before we end the call she asked me if I have my college degree and I honestly said I don't but I reached 4th year college with some un-enrolled subjects. She Immediately ended the call and said thank you. Considering that the position that I applied is an agent. I experienced numerous failure in job hunting, right now I am unemployed and would like to start my own enterprise. Are they threatened and overwhelmed with my resume? Now that the president of the country is pro foreigners and pro call centers (in the recent visit to the US he invited call center companies to outsource in the Philippines) what's next in the Philippines and its people? Are going to be employee (by foreigners) in our own country? Government should act on this matter if he want to make poverty a history.
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@kath83 (82)
• Philippines
30 Oct 10
Correct even janitor and factory worker/operators requires a college degree. I also got rejected with lower positions. I apply to lower positions hoping that I will be accepted but I was always turned down.
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@SinRealm (559)
• Philippines
31 Oct 10
That person who called you is quite rude. Its quite stupid actually... If you compute things... Tuition you pay in college is like P20-80k per sem. You spend allowance/food/transpo Lets say P10-50k per sem. And when you graduate... Add and multiply it by how much sem per year and multiply how many years you took up. You try to get a job. Each job application I spent P100 (cell balance, transpo, food and materials excluding some papers that are required) And when you work the lowly jobs that require a lot. You earn P5-20k. Cheapest rent (if you're living alone) is like P1k per month then lets minus another P1-5k for the monthly expenses. And then... Tax... What do you have left? You're spending more on college for a job that makes you earn than less than what you have invested. Now... Isn't that wasting your lives away? To make things worse, the govt is planning to add more years to schooling. Such simple problems yet so complicated.
@Portia08 (10)
• Philippines
31 Oct 10
Yeah, I totally agree.. someone has to take a look at how human resource gets employees.. Why put an age limit to job qualifications? Isn't that discriminatory? I think those over 25 have for more experience than newly graduates and can therefore contribute more to the work place. Another thing is that companies requires too many qualifications, why don't they just train potential hires? Come on, be considerate.. There are a lot of jobs actually, they're just not filled. Sad...
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@SinRealm (559)
• Philippines
31 Oct 10
Companies are getting too greedy. Training requires the company to pay. Speaking of greedy, I heard from my friend that some companies are free from tax and if they do pay tax, they take it from their employees' pay. And I agree with you, age limit should be removed. If a person is old, then give him a chance... But then... Some bosses/managers abuse their position and sleep with their younger employees. Perhaps that is the reason behind the 25 years old age limit? Who knows...
@shaggin (37753)
• United States
31 Oct 10
Wow that is really crazy to think that a janitorial position is required to have a college education. No one college educated wants to do janitoral work. If you go to college you want a higher paying classier job. They need to give the janitor position to people who arent college educated but really need jobs.
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@SinRealm (559)
• Philippines
31 Oct 10
Its really quite sad. Either the people in the company are plain sadistic or are just retarded. They want a college for janitor. Janitors should study the scientific terms for sweeping. Janitors should know how to translate the word cleaning in five different languages. Janitors should know the chemical solutions in their cleaning materials.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
2 Nov 10
A college degree for a Janitor? seriously that sounds absurd. Does it mean that schools will be offering Bachelor of Science in janitorial service? or would be a Bachelor of Arts in Janitorial Services? I think there's a typo error made somewhere, but give the unemployment rate in this country I'm not going to wonder if a lot of college graduates will still line up for an interview to land that job. On the other hand, I don't think it's hard to get into the call center industry, since all you need after all is good english and some basic computer skills and you're good as hired.
@SinRealm (559)
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
Call centers are getting too picky now. Some of them, that is why my friend decided to get back to studying, no jobs, even call center accepts him cause of educational attainment.