when mylotters read do they really read it all?

@Hatley (163781)
Garden Grove, California
January 13, 2011 4:00pm CST
a newer user was really concerned that his rank in some interest had gone from a twelve to 9 and almost all the responders were going on and on about star rating and reputations and noone really had read the words interest ranking and all were worried about negative rating s and on and on. When we read discussions do we really read all of the discussion or just read the title and assume we know what the mylotter is asking?your take please.if we were more careful when we read and respond we could put a newcomer more at ease.
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• United States
13 Jan 11
I have said this time and time again, and I also started a similar discussion as yours about two months ago addressing the same. Most members read the first line and it sets them off. In fact there was this one time whereas I read a discussion I felt I could contribute. After reading the responses first, I realized most members did not clearly read the discussion. So I placed my comment and the originator of the discussion, I suppose was all hot and bothered by all other comments that did not bother to read my response. He was a bit rude and crude commenting back to me. I went ahead and re commented and said not only did the others not read your discussion, but apparently you did not read my response to see that I was agreeing with you, as I too understood the discussion well. I told the member apparently the other members upset you enough that you too are guilty of their actions. So do members read, NO!!! Not all, my intentions here on myLot is to be the person I am off-line which is to not be rude or mean intentionally but to listen while people speak. Can I say that about everyone else. NO!! So the majority of the spats on here is that people do not simply read, and at times they need to re-read. My motto in life is that although everyone may not be the same when it comes to opinions there are some truths to the other side. You just need to read and or listen while spoken to. You may not always agree, but I tell you something, I learn from each and every opposing comment, something that at some point does ring truth.
• United States
13 Jan 11
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Why don't they have a little clapping hands emo? Loved your response, very well said!
• United States
13 Jan 11
, that would be nice to have as I just clapped my way through reading my own response.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
13 Jan 11
oh come on your not alone, let's all clap all those hands, together now one... two...
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• United States
13 Jan 11
Hi there sweet little Hatley! YOU are so right! Most people DO NOT read the whole discussion and I notice it's usually the newer people. They are out for the almight "penny" or two, haha. They think they are going to get rich here and just fly through all these discussions writing a sentence or two without even reading what the discussion is all about. I usually come here when I have time on my hands, so I try, really hard, to even read most of the responses to see if I can add to them with something a bit different, or even comment on some of them. Don't get me wrong, if there is a whole bunch of responses, I won't read them all, but I will read a good majority of them. There has been many, many times I've read a title and thought it was about something else, and found out it had nothing to do with that as they were making a joke, or just being clever. Yes, everyone should be a bit more careful and read the entire discussion, or at least speed read it to get the jest of the whole thing.
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• United States
14 Jan 11
HAHA! Yes, you sure could say discussion NOT READ, lol! I had one yesterday I commented on, and when I read the title I just had to see what it was all about...so funny. It was about ghosts and I thought at first it was about a child with three eyes, HAHAHAHAHA! I even commented on the title in my response..so silly I am.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
hi kashmere and hardworking I have sometimes made my title sort of catchy tol intrique people to read it. lol.oh I remember that discussion and that person really did not have a clue lol. here I think a lot of responders were so new they did not even know about the interest rating stuff so they just decided he or she was talking about reputations and stars. now a child with three eyes that would be interesting lol lol
• United States
13 Jan 11
I also agree with your response as many members are being creative with their title, which is a eye catcher. There are some responses that do not make sense. I can understand mis-interpreting but I recall one recent where the originator posted about her husband and some pictures that the response given was that the member wanted the originators pictures to be downloaded for him to judge her. Can we say discussion not read.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
13 Jan 11
If they read do they earn for doing so? Apparently not BUT if they respond without reading and the response has nothing to do with the topic do they earn for that? Possibly not either so the saying 'it pays to read' is so true here on myLot. Some of us just love playing with the titles, which are absolutely 100% pertinent to the topic, just as long as they read it all too. If they don't well, they get themselves in a pickle and that is often when the fun starts I saw the discussion that caused this one Hatley and it is so sad that there were so many responses that had nothing whatsoever to do withthe problem inthe topic
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• Italy
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
13 Jan 11
that is for sure Hatley dear. i couldnt tell you how many times people have responded with the craziest things. makes you know they did not read what you were talking about. and every once in a while we get a newbie thats just here for the money about 1 out of 50 will start out by responding with 3 or 4 words or make a lot of discussions with 3 or 4 words. i like to welcome most newbies but the silly ones i like see go. i think thats the ones dont read your whole discussion right.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Jan 11
hi I am the same way with newbies but try to tell them not to be afraid to flesh out responses and discussions too. when someone really shows they did not read my discussion I sometimes gently ask go read it again as you misunderstood what I was attempting to say.
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
13 Jan 11
Dear Ms. Hately, I read the content of the discussion before responding for sure. But I have seen many mylotters respond to my discussions based on the Headline or the first few lines only. From those discussion I could find that this happens with newer mylotters and at times with others too. Regards, theSids.
• United States
13 Jan 11
As I stated below, some do not read the response in total either.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Jan 11
hi thesids and hardworkinggurl you have a point about response too as if we do not read all of it we can go off on a completely different tangent. I know I have had to read some responses over first before commenting on them.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
13 Jan 11
hi Hatley, I always try to read all the responses as much as possible before giving my own response so as not to duplicate what has already been said. I also try to understand the tittle and what the author wants to convey, I try putting myself in his shoes and pretend I'm the one posting even if sometimes it is not written in the best English. My doing this is of course limited to shorter post and few response topics, but if it were a really long one ( like what you did yesterday ), wow that was real hot! I trained my self to glance, and just understand the gist or the main point of the discussion and what responders have to say. Have a nice day and how were the sea gulls?
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
hi louievill we have seagulls come down here outsideour window to fight over the stuff in the dumpsters as theres a fish place close that throws out oold fish. boy they do have a pecking order. I need to warn sometimes my titles have little to do w ith it directly but usu ally indirectly lol this discusssion seemed to be ansered mostly by newcomers and they misunder stood completely what the poster was talking abvout he or she meant interest rating like in home intersts new old recent cats dog and etyc. he was worried as he had been a 12 and was now 9th and he thought that would reflect on his rep and earnings and the responders were goping on about the stars a nd rating and reputations whhich was not what he was talking about and they were getting him all confused. for one thing it was apparent that he had not read any of the information mylot gave us nor had any of the others or they would have answered differently.
@Sreekala (34312)
• India
14 Jan 11
Hello Hatley, I do read the discussion’s title and content for sure before writing my reply. If I don’t have time to read the content or didn’t understand it well then I won’t respond. As a non-English speaking person I have to be careful and read it thoroughly before posting the reply otherwise I may post ‘nonsense’ reply. Once I asked a question about ‘avatar’ (profile picture) how often you change… one responder replied about the incarnation of GOD. I replied politely to that person I am talking about the profile picture not about GOD.
@Sreekala (34312)
• India
15 Jan 11
Mainly people are worrying about declining of reputation, star and discussing the same more often. It may be the reason for ‘jumping into wrong conclusion’ by responders. Thank you very much for the appreciation.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jan 11
sreekala but the response should be about what the poster was asking help on and it was not stars. also anyone evern new if they look can see our star system only goes to ten so this person bemoaning the fact that his renking on the interest Mylot went from 12 to 9 surely should cue any one even half observant that it had not one thing to do with the holy star system.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
hi sreeklala you respond beautifully in great English so I did not even know English was your second language. I can see that poster really did not read your discussion as profile pictures have nothing to do with God and religion. lol lol this poor poster was asking about his interest in mylot ranking and the responders thought he was talking about his star rating . those are two completely different topics
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@jerzgirl (9226)
• United States
15 Jan 11
No, they don't read, really read, what the discussion is about. They see what they want, but I believe it's because they're trying to get as many discussions in as possible, so they're more scanning it than actually reading it (because, you know, reading actually takes time and effort). I've posted test questions on occasion, too, where my question said one thing but wasn't literal just to see if someone actually didn't read the discussion to see what I meant. There's always one - that one who ONLY reads the question or discussion title and answers that without reading the discussion itself. They're wanting to get done quickly without taking any more time than they think is necessary. I think the same is true for those who put down very short answers of anywhere from one to six words because it takes too long to think of more than that. (Of course, it doesn't appear that I suffer from that ailment.)
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jan 11
hi jerzgirl I am one who cannot seem to write just a few sentences aqnd the one responder just before you scolded me for not having a life and having too long discussions. I told this person that I will not take that from anyone. my life is my bu siness. if he did not like my discussion'he was free to not answer at all. I would have preferred he did not as its left me feeling really angry. He cloimed nobody who has a life has time to read all the discussions. well fine let me not read mine at all then.I still think if one person takes the time to make a discussion if the person responding is really interested he or she shuld read all of it. i gather the scolder above did not deign to read where mylot admins says read all of the discussion. so I hope this person does not bother with any more of my discussios. lol
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Mar 11
typos and all well thanks Of course you were nice. YOu always are, Jerzgirl. lol lol lol
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@jerzgirl (9226)
• United States
15 Jan 11
Well, with your having told me that, I felt the uncontrollable need to comment on the above response and, therefore, have done so. I was nice. Honest I was!
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@zweeb82 (5653)
• Malaysia
31 Jan 11
Sad to say so, many just don't read at all & some even try to give silly open ended responses in order to rake in more responses to gain more $$? Oh well, the world is full of 'interesting' people
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Mar 11
oh thats one I never heard before although we do use are you in the pink of things meaning are you in the middle or another one tickle me pink meaning you amuse me and make me feel like a kid again. we all have some odd idioms that at times can confuse other people. Like I will say he went all around john browns barn when talking to somoene and telling him that a person had kept on talking to me butg still never really explained what he really wanted
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Feb 11
h zweeb yes thats true and I guess it would be dull indeedd if we were all even half perfect he he. I am sometimes sure that I might not have made something clear if I succumbed to using so m any idioms. Some of them I am sure seem really silly to others from other countries too.
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@zweeb82 (5653)
• Malaysia
2 Feb 11
Yeah, from the number of posts I can see how many times you've tried to explain those idioms to them? ( pun intended ) Hahaha!~But true, there are so many nationalities here & many do not use English as their 1st language. I must say that I too sometimes half to pause a bit to ponder or even go through the online dictionary due to the different slangs. I remembered I was talking to an Aussie once & he was asking whether we understood the phrase "strike me pink" - erm....strike him with a Pink Panther? Haha!~ Later he did explain to us it's an Aussie slang which expresses once surprise....
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
14 Jan 11
i also feel guilty sometimes. but the truth is, i sometimes do not get the idea of the topic or i just misunderstood it.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
hi neildc you I cannot believe that as you seem so intelligent to me, I get lost when the poster talks about cricket as I only know it is a game lol. so I do not respond. I have misunderstood too 'a few times here aS the discussion was not clearly worded.I'notice all your own discussions are very clear.He was talking about interest ranking and all of the responders thought he meant star ratings. i ma told he never said interest so must reread myself as I waS SURE HE DIE.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
then you can imagine what I was trying to figure out on a discussion about rugby and cricket and I am thinking what are they talking about. I almost answered I wish you would explain those games to me but that would have really been off topic and not done anything good for the discussion at all.but I keep forgetting English is really not your first language and too our English has some words that are confusing as they can be spelled the same' but have several meanings. then too some tenses in English are werid as the word read never changes no matter what tense we are in as it is still read.like I read,you read, they read so its misleading until 'one really learns it. lol.although you ca n also say he reads which is present tense but thats about the only change in that word read.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
14 Jan 11
thanks for the nice comment hatley, but that's true, i maybe intelligent but sometimes i hardly understand what others are saying...
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@elitess (5070)
• Ipswich, England
13 Jan 11
Hey Hatley. The sad thing is that there are quite a couple of members here that read the title drop a 2-4 liner about who knows what and then never return and the topic in the discussion is far from asnwered. I even had a member post discussions in the interest of my person talking about the elite society, when the interest was about me, and my life ^_^
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
hi elitess that showed the person had never read allof your 'discussion. I have had that happen to me too and I sometimes gently say go back and read all the discussion., in this persons post he or she was talking about having dropped from a 12 ranking in mylot interest to a 9 and if they had read interest and not star rating and reputation they should know that our interest rankings will move'up; and down. this does not have one thing to do with stars and reputation rating at all. two completely different topics.and he or she need not worry about that as it does not affect our earnings in any way.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Feb 11
lost comment darn. yes it is mos annoying when people are off on something completely different than your topic was and they just did not even read your topic. most annyoing.
@elitess (5070)
• Ipswich, England
14 Jan 11
I know :) But it can be a bit annoying and a bit fustrating at times, especially when it happens to a topic where you were expecting people to be ON topic :D
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@celticeagle (158680)
• Boise, Idaho
14 Jan 11
I used to do that and embarrassed myself and so i read it all. I usually read about half, then start writing as I read the rest. I think some of the foreign ones I may not fully understand and so that causes me problems with my response. JUST A NOTE** I recall a time when I was rising in stars and I hovered at 7 and then at eight and like that for ages. I thought I would never reach 10. Then I did and suddenly I went back to nine. It took time to establish my 10.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
okay start over Celtic I felt for this poster as he, or she, was talking about interest ranking an how he had been12 and went to a nine in interest ranks,this has not one thing to do with our star rating or ranking at all. interest rating is about how often you are in any one interest and is only found in your own profile page.it is not I repeat not about earnings and stars and reputations and pluss or minuses atr all. I told him not to worry anymore as it had no thing to do with his star or reputation rating.as for my star it stuck at nine once I did have a ten. lol as I have some many points its hard to get moved up now.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Feb 11
hi celtic yes I have had that problem too.one was so confusing i just daid please explain a bit more so I can make an intelliegent response as I think this cou ld be a good discussion but you need to explain a few words that are foreing to my A merican ears.
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@celticeagle (158680)
• Boise, Idaho
14 Jan 11
Correct. That's why I put in 'Note^^' format. Sorreee!
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
14 Jan 11
Heyya Hately! I do read through the discussion. A title can be a little misleading sometimes where the discussion material is concerned. I sure don't want to answer a discussion with something that has nothing to do with it..lol..I hope that you cleared that newbie's discussion up.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
I just explained that interest ratings are fun to look at but wheer you are in it has not a thing to do with his earnings but the star ranking and reputation do factor in to our earnings algorithm. My point is that those responding mostly newbies were all giving him wrong information as he was talking about interests and not about star ratings and reputations. so they were not reading all of his discussion. Never go by the title as it does not have to have a lot of bearing on our discussion as we expect the reader to' actually read our discussion. I must say if people are too impatient to read all of my discussion then just go on , do not leave a response that has nothing to do with the discussion.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jan 11
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
14 Jan 11
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@divalounger (5849)
• United States
14 Jan 11
Hi Hatley, So I was one of those people who responded. I generally do read the topic fully and usually read the other comments before I respond. It did so in this case as well. I think I need to be clear then about the difference between "interest Ranking" and "negative ranking." Therein lies my issue regarding my response.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
let me simply our star ratings go up and down depending on plus and minus ratings by fellow mylotters.the interest ratings are only shown in each of our profiles and are the varius topic headings and are shown hom often we have visited that interest you know the interests like mylot people, thinking,friend,love, parenting, cooking,etc etc etc. those ranking have nothing to do with the stars and pluses and minuses. mylot software just counts how many times we use each interest and it ha absolutely nothing to do with reputations or stars or plus or minus at all. two different topics completely.,
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
typo simply was supposed to be simplify . sorry.
• United States
14 Jan 11
So, don't you think the newbie's concern then was about star ratings? It seemed like that to me when I read the initial post and when I responded to it. And I did try to be helpful and address the concern.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
25 Nov 12
I have encountered this scenario before and remember starting a discussion once with a fairly long introduction, which received a vast number of responses that were quite obviously made by people who were responding to the first few lines only and missed the whole point of the subject. Of course we all know the reason for this and know that it will always continue to some extent. Many members are in such a hurry to make a response and move on to the next that they feel it would be a waste of time to read the whole story and respond as soon as they feel that they have glimpsed something of the topic. I appreciate that many members are interested in increasing their activity, but this approach would remove the pleasure of Mylot in my opinion.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Nov 12
hi Asylum I think a lot of newcomers still h ave the stupid idea that myhlot pays for making a zillion responses or comments when mylot does not as it pay s for quality instead. so they need to slow down and read all of the discusion say on cats before resounding about their noisy neighbors in stead.If they do this to me I will tell them no you did not read my discussion so go back and rereead it.
@ajithlal (14716)
• India
27 Mar 12
Yes I think most times the experienced people show the path for the youngsters. Cricket is one of the game that I like very much. I would compare myLot with cricket. The seniors set records for the youngsters to break. The youngsters have to try very hard and has to do quality type work to break it. The seniors groom the youngsters to be better player. I also think it is better to read the whole discussions than the title becomes sometimes the content might vary from the title and also when a person reads the whole discussions it might help them to understand better.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Nov 12
hi ajithlal yes it is a lot l ike that and I often tease with my title so people really should read all of my discussion. I can tell when the person has only responded to the title as often it will have not one darned thing to do with the discussion itself. like things that go bump in the night as my title was about being alone in a house an hearing ordinary noises that now sounded frightening. The person went on about ghost busters and my discussion was not at all about ghosts but ordinary night sounds. I told the person to go back and read my discussion again
@rosekiss (30380)
• Eugene, Oregon
13 Jan 11
I think you are right hatley, that users won't read the discussion from begging to end. I normally do read them as I feel the only proper way to respond is to read first so I can give an intelligent response, one that goes alone with the discussion. I will read a discussion, that seems to be interesting to start with, but as I keep on reading, I lose interest in it, and then I will just not respond at all. It just doesn't make sense to post a response by the title alone, as the discussion will be much more than what the title suggests. You just can't give a proper response, unless you take the time to read the discussion. Now, there are times I don't read all the responses before i post mine, especially those with more than one page. I really don't think I have to worry about someone saying the same thing as me anyway. I will however, read them, when there aren't all that many, so I can get an idea what others are trying to say as well. There have been times that I will comment back to responses, and then respond with my own response after that. I just feel that to respond we must take time to read first. Good luck to you and happy mylotting.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jan 11
hi rosekiss I could see that they were really new and must not have read the mylolt info as they did not seem to know we are also rated on the various interests we have an d that was what was bothedring ther discussion maker as he was talking abut interest ratings as seen in the p profile while they all assumed he was talking about the star and reputation rating. so they did not really read it or not enough to make an appropriate response.
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@rebelann (111077)
• El Paso, Texas
22 Feb 21
We miss you @Hatley I wish you'd come back.
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
26 Mar 11
A bit of an old topic, but still wanna make my opinion. I think that sometimes what you said happens, people just read it in a rush, and dont really read it well. Sometimes it is because, as mylot´s members are from all around the world and not all have english as their first language, it may happen that they don´t truly understand english very well. On the other side, again, as mylot´s members are from all different kind of places, the one who made the discussion can´t write english properly.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Nov 12
hi edxcast; y es all y ou say is very true b ut a lot or responders were from the US and I am from the US so my discussion was not hard to understand for a fellow American so he had no excuse except pure laziness. If a person with English as a second language asks me to explain something I will do so and in words he will be able to understand. B ut if I really really make my discssions readable then the person who answers only to my title is to blame for giving me a poor response and I will tell them go back and read my discussions'again.,
@rajeev075 (1961)
• India
25 Mar 11
I don't know what other do but well i read the title as well as description and then go to respond. But most of the time i didn't go through the discussion of the other. Sometime when i fell that if will have i did see all discussion specially in the cricket where i have the grab so that i can give best response as well as comment.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Mar 11
rajeev do read all of my discussions as often I put the most important details in the last of middle of the discussion. if you andser me with something totally off the subject I will tell you you did not read my discussion. I feel it really rude not to read all of it so you know what the devil I am talking about.P retend all my discussions are about cricket so read all of mine. okay?
@hanny8 (12)
• Switzerland
2 Feb 11
Hi Hatley am just new here and i think i have been reading some post fullly some not so am guilty as charged.but since i have not understood how here operates i don have to comment on star rating and rankigs whether positive or negative but i will wait and see what after 24 hours bring and i can decide to be rading all or half the posts.Good juntures.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Mar 11
buny8u do read all the discussions and tell us if we have said something you just do not u nderstaND. MOST MYlotters will be glad to explaiun what an expression they have used means if you do not u nderstand it. Like' I may write she was v ery pretty, in factg she knocked my socks ogg. 'here itg means she was so very pretty she really surprised me. Now some people really would not know what that meant and not want to guess. so just ask as we should all be friends here. friends do help each other.