Stop accepting nursing enrollees

@ybong007 (6658)
Philippines
January 16, 2011 7:27pm CST
As population in western countries continue to age, they will be needing more health care providers like nurses in the future. Seeing this trend, developing countries like the Philippines offer nursing courses enticing students of a chance to work and migrate to countries like US and Canada which would mean having a high paying job and a better future. Since the 90's nursing seems to be the most sought after course that a lot of students are aiming and parents prepare themselves for. Now there are hundreds of thousands of Nurses and a lot of them are licensed who can't work at hospitals since there's no longer a place for them, add to that a couple thousands more that's going to graduate every year. Now it's on the news that nursing graduates have to pay just for a hospital to accommodate them to render an OJT. This is heart breaking not only to the graduates but to the parents as well since it is expected that once you graduate college you can now look for a job and help the family in return. Which leads me to think, is it about time that schools stop offering nursing or can this trend just continue and let the students face the consequences after graduation?
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12 responses
• Philippines
17 Jan 11
I think nursing schools should have a quota system wherein they can no longer accept enrollees for nursing courses until the current pool of nurses have been placed in jobs whether here or abroad.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
18 Jan 11
That's something worth looking into but I think it's not realistic since in reality we don't have enough jobs to offer all graduates. Having that kind of set up is also unfair to graduates who didn't took up nursing. If it's a must for schools to ensure job placements for nurses then that policy should be applied to all courses in general.
• Philippines
20 Jan 11
I think it might really be a good idea to have a quota system for all courses. The government is encouraging the taking up of vocational and technical courses because these are the courses that are in high demand abroad. These courses also will equip the graduates to acquire a skill that will enable them to earn as they apply their learning here.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
21 Jan 11
That's a nice idea but I think that's not going to happen as long as we have the mindset that a technical course is not as prestigious as a four year course. I think the government should focus more on the technical courses not only for it's high demand abroad but this could also be put to good use locally.
@louievill (19361)
• Philippines
17 Jan 11
When there is an excess of anything there is a greater chance that it would be abused, nurses or otherwise. I'd love to see the day when we Filipinos no longer have to work abroad and accept anything dished at us even turning a blind eye because our country does not have anything to offer that's better. Call it wishful thinking but it was like that in the 40's up to the early 70's, in fact they came to us to study and work, still can't figure what went wrong If we did it before, then why can't we do it again? Let's just all hope that there would be a resurgence of Philippine economy, at least its better than total surrender
• Philippines
17 Jan 11
I can tell something that went wrong, we blew our chance after EDSA I.Corruption, lack of patriotism to most now a days and overpopulation is what led us into this state.everything seems to be deteriorating on all sorts of government agencies. even some of our cops or soldiers are doing dirty work more often. i never really experience having such a develop country environment in our country but i do remember paying 11 pesos from Cavite to Manila and one pesos for the jeepney fair.As i reached high school and college the fares started to rise, now even the MRT fee is about to rise as well. Even our AGILA satellite is about to fall this 2012
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
21 Jan 11
@louievill, you're right in that observation. Something went wrong somewhere, and it's haunting us until this day. Let's just hope that things will change soon and it's a change for the better. @LK, let's just expect the worst and hope for the best. Life is afterall just a cycle, and the Philippines will not stay at the bottom forever. Let's just hope that we'll see better times, if not in our lifetimes then at least for our kids, I mean, my kids since you're still single .
@EdnaReyes (2628)
• Philippines
18 Jan 11
I think it's time for the Nurse's organization to step in and ask for the regulation of the course. Many scrupulous business minded individuals capitulated the need of many progressive country in pooling their health services, and therefore Nursing school have mushroomed all over the country. The course has been tagged as an easy exit pass to countries like US , Canad and London. These schools with no aim but to earn of course produce unqualified graduates and have populated the profession with untrained and inept nurses. Unless the Nurses themselves do something about this, we are bond to see another scandalous news concerning the profession.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
19 Jan 11
That kind of policy should be in place everywhere and not just in the nursing profession. If we give focus on quality education for people who will just end up working for someone else after teaching all they need to compete in that profession in the global arena while taking for granted other courses then we're certainly a country that's going nowhere.
• Philippines
18 Jan 11
In my own point of view, the government should close some nursing institutions that cannot produce quality nursing graduates. This may be done by ranking these universities according to the school's performance. Perhaps, the top 50 universities shall continue operating while those on the bottom of these have to be commanded to stop. This suggestion of mine may be harsh in some way, however, it is worse to place hopes on these nursing students that greener pastures will be at hand once they graduate and work. In reality, nurses are having so much difficulty from acquiring jobs locally and even abroad because of the number of clinical years of experience required in hospitals.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
18 Jan 11
That's actually the easiest approach to the problem. The main reason why it is so hard for nurses to work abroad is because a lot of graduates are not equipped with the right knowledge after graduation that's why foreign hospitals make it a must that a nurse undergoes a certain period of time enough to gain the necessary experience in a hospital setting so when they get hired they won't be putting a patient's life in danger. If schools are able to produce top caliber graduates who are well equipped then it won't necessary for most of them to undergo such long periods of training or OJTs because as far as I know, OJT is a part of the requirements and be complied with before graduation, not after graduation.
• Philippines
18 Jan 11
I don't think schools can be regulated or controlled. They are actually earning money out of offering this course. The students and parents themselves should make the right decision lest be part of the growing unemployed and underemployed would-be professionals.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
18 Jan 11
In my opinion there has to be some sort of regulation by the government to ensure that a school offering nursing as a course or any course for that matter maintains a certain level of standards and not just churning out graduates who only happen to have a diploma but shouldn't have graduated in the first place.
@lazette (216)
• Philippines
17 Jan 11
It's all a matter of connections, in my opinion. My cousins who are all nurses recently graduated, and they were able to land jobs because they had connections with hospitals and stuff. They also have connections with someone in Canada, so after they finish their service in the Phils, they're going to work there to earn more. Anyone who is planning to take on professions that entail cash, such as nursing and medicine, need to keep in mind that connections are a big factor in landing the actual job. Sometimes, being the top of the class won't save you. And recently, my class just finished a survey regarding the courses incoming college freshmen will be taking, and the number of nursing enrollees have definitely decreased by a big percentage. It looks like the recent problems with the profession has made it undesirable for the incoming freshmen batch. Majority of them are into Computer, Medicine, Business, Dentistry and HRM now. To be honest, my department doesn't mind, since due to this, the population of our BS Biology course tripled just last semester due to the huge number of people wanting to be doctors (though a few quit after the first semester since they couldn't handle the course's difficulty). As our professors said, Nursing is no longer "all the rave" these days, so I don't think schools need to stop offering nursing.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
18 Jan 11
Well it seems that all the noise we've been hearing about the sad plight that new nurses have to go through before they land a real job has spread everywhere. I think congress will even have a look on the alleged fees nurses have to part with just to have an OJT. It's good that your cousins have the right connections which would ensure that their ultimate goal to work overseas is realized with less hassles but this set up doesn't work for the majority. It's about time would be nurses realize that a big challenge lies ahead if they wish to pursue that kind of profession. The survey you mentioned is a welcome surprise as far as I'm concerned since it's about time that students consider taking courses that would benefit the country in the long term rather than teaching them to be nurses or any other course only to migrate and use those knowledge for others.
• Philippines
17 Jan 11
Hello Ybong, I don't know why this such has happened. we seemed to have nurses every where and even the middle aged ones,are turning into nursing.now we have over supplied and the recent graduates are facing abuses. but not only from private or public hospitals, also in terms of being harrassed or rape. just like some volunteer nurse who were raped during their voluntary work in the rural areas. WHAT WE NEED IS MORE SOLDIERS OR COPS WITH OUT AGENDA TO CORRUPT. MOST SPECIALLY ENTERPRENEURS - we need more of this.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
18 Jan 11
I think that should be looked into by the government as well. We seem to have an over supply of nurses to the point that hospitals can no longer accommodate them and if they will be accommodated they have to pay for it, which is really sad since it is everyone's expectation that after you graduate you will be able to work to help the family. What is happening now is the contrary since after graduation, a nurse will have to pay again just for an OJT which should have been already part of the curriculum. What we need are graduates who will help out economy move forward and not nurses whose aim is to get enough experience and migrate to another sooner or later.
@gaiza12 (4889)
• Philippines
17 Jan 11
In my opinion, schools should be more articulate and must screen students who wish to study nursing very well. They should be accepting those who are really qualified so we can produce more effective and capable nurses. Most schools accept as much as they can to earn more money from the very high tuition fees. I am one of the Nurses who pays hospitals just to be able to experience my profession and it's sad to say that i have come across nursing students that are really not capable to become a nurse. They lack knowledge, skill and attitude to become a nurse. The reason why there are a lot of students incapable of becoming one is the very high population of students studying this course making their instructors not to be able to teach them during their practical or field experience, and sometimes procedures in the hospitals are not enough for each students to be able to practice and see. They may continue accepting students who really has the passion of becoming a nurse and not just accepting students who only wish to earn more without the passion.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
17 Jan 11
Not just for Nursing students but all incoming students in general. I think this can't be avoided if you have too many students with just a few teachers which is common among public schools. The case of Nurses paying just to have an OJT should be looked into since it's already taking advantage of the graduates.
@SIMPLYD (81580)
• Philippines
17 Jan 11
I think the Nursing Profession should now be regulated. Until such time that all registered nurses have their jobs as nurses either abroad or locally, it should be regulated.
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
17 Jan 11
I share that opinion. Although we can't blame the schools for offering that course, what's happening now is alarming. Both the schools and the government shouldn't just turn a blind eye on what's going on since we're not talking about hundreds but couple thousands of clueless student on what gloomy future they will have before they can even have a chance to work abroad.
@louie847 (350)
• Philippines
21 Jan 11
With the current status and issues about nurses not landing jobs after being registered as nurses, I think schools should regulate the number of students enrolling for nursing.
@rsa101 (14917)
• Quezon City, Philippines
19 Jan 11
Well I guess we should start limiting the entry of many students to this profession. I guess there are many other jobs that is suited for many students nowadays and Nursing is just one of them and they are slowly getting lower as the demand decreases abroad. I really think that Government should find ways to give this excess graduates some kind of alternative careers to make good use of their skills.
• Philippines
18 Jan 11
I have a friend who did took the nursing course and found herself a job that is completely different from what she had studied for for years. She also took the exam and passed it but ultimately, she didn't pursue a nursing career since the 'fad' had already run it's course. I agree with your notion with little modifications. I would like schools to retract the nursing course if nursing is really not their specially course. This way or option might meet a resistance considering that various schools have invested too much on nursing teachers and equipment to let go. Also, there are stand-alone schools that cater exclusively to nursing - a solution that I am thinking is that they offer other medical related courses or short courses as well. for the time being, nurses are confused on how to move on with their lives. Let's hope that they find their way in the workforce.