Corruption in the FORCE!

Philippines
January 29, 2011 1:02pm CST
Yeah, I know I know, it's not something new to talked about. The only reason that i did made this topic was for the first time i heard my mom and my brother talking about the Latest Corruption in the Military regarding Garcia's Case. With the Euro Generals and Angelo Reyes being questioned, there's no doubt Trillanes' Mutiny is more proven genuine article for me in terms of going against corruption. It's funny that they even talked about if GMA is gonna be linked to the accusations from the ex-generals based on the statement quoting "wait for your turn" (to cheat)... No wonder the Military has poor Modernization or NONE at all because of Corruption..even with the Police force, most are good cops. but what about those who get away with money,extortion and murder? am pretty sure that's why summary killing existed because they don't trust cops no more. I hope if WAR does come in the Philippines, i wished the rusted ones from the FORCED should die first as they end up being Weak in the end for falling prey into money and power.... Is this the kind of people that were trusted to protect us? Shame!
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• Philippines
29 Jan 11
I felt disappointed when I heard that corruption went up all the way to the high officials. Angelo Reyes? Really? I had respect for the chief but if it's proven he's involved with the corruption, I'd lose all that respect for him. I was more surprised that this issue of corruption was one of the things the Magdalo group fought for...and they were incarcerated because of it. As usual, I feel little hope for our country but I'm a bit hoping that someday the Philippines will be less plagued by all the bad things happening today.
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• Philippines
30 Jan 11
hi enslinporter in our country,on my own opinion,i am not surprise on what is really happening.since i was born,this are the things that usually heard and see,that is why i am alfready used to it.. corruption can't be avoided if we will not do something.we have to work hand on hand to stop this issue.it is not them who will be affected if they were caught but we people are suffering from what they are doing.
• Philippines
30 Jan 11
Hello EnslinPorter, I used to respect him too but i started doubting him when he had an argument with Richard Gordon at that time they wanted to get the Red Cross hostages out. unfortunately, it took his guts (gordon) to negotiate with the rebels, just to let go of the red cross volunteers. unfortunately, the truth is about to come out soon but too little too late. i hope they just go to jail.
@saphrina (31740)
• South Africa
29 Jan 11
Hi sweetie. Why do you think we here don't trust the army or police in our country? You have never seen such a cesspool when it comes to corruption. I have the same wishes as you do, though. TATA.
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• Philippines
30 Jan 11
Hello Saphie, I think the problem in Africa was a lot more complicated than in here. but there's a catch, we used to be a economically powerful then. after martial law or edsa revolution, things went down hill, very slow.
@Hatley (164672)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Jan 11
hi letran thats awful to have corrupt people in the military as they are the ones sworn to protect one's country. I imagine we may have some in out own but here you never hear about it.Yes I imagine those who fall prey for money and power are the weaklings. sure is not good to have people like that in one's armed forces.
• Philippines
30 Jan 11
hi hatley, as what i have mentioned in my response in this discussion,this has been unresolved issue for a long time.i think i was still a kid,and there is already an issue about this.that is why you cannot see any progess in our country.to point out,corrupt people are not only coming from the military sector but from the government itself. instead of focusing to the needs and problems of the nation.they tend to focus for their own benefit.if this continue to happen,philippines might be in the five poor countries.that is why many skilled filipinos are deciding to move abroad because they don't see opportunies here.
• Philippines
30 Jan 11
Hello Hatley, No, some members of the military were pawn into corrupt politcians money power or corrupt generals like the ones being known in the news lately. . rberon i think a lot of peple are doing their best to focus on solving the problem every day but of course, not every can stay forever helping the filipino people. the government should do more even though it's not enough.....
@skysuccess (8882)
• Singapore
4 Feb 11
LetranKnight25, Like it or not, but it will be sometime before war will break out in the Philippines. Thank goodness too. I feel that your country has come a long way and everyone knows the consequences if war to break out. So, I have to say that your country is doing fairly well as far as peace is concern. Nothing is perfect, corruption is rampant and it will take some time to eradicate it. Just be patient and do your part as a citizen.
• Philippines
4 Feb 11
Hello Skysuccess, And the likes of Ex-Officer who turned bad was because of the conspiracy that the Obudsman and some in the Police force. makes me wanna participate in a new revolution and it's really hard though my country has come a long way just to SINK down, i wonder if only Martial Didn't came, maybe we could have the same level at least with Vietnam or Hongkong at least..
@tholitz (1127)
• Philippines
2 Feb 11
Hi LetranKnight25! It's so frustrated to hear such corruption from the officers of our Armed Forces, which were considered as discipline and honest people (they were trained to have these traits or manner). I just don't know if these anomalous activities were already been practiced in the past or just in the GMA administration. I just hope that this government will do something to uplift the spirits of the military, particularly those who are doing the risky business of fighting and protecting the people and government. Have a nice day!
• Philippines
3 Feb 11
Hello THolitz, It's already there and it's sad that we had to team up with the US forces and others just to deal with our rebel problem in this country. not to mention we are slowly loosing the spratleys because China started taking the islands due to sea territory, which has bothered me for quite sometime.
@TheAdvocate (2395)
• Philippines
1 Feb 11
We have heard talk about the corruption in the military. We have become apathetic to the corruption that we just shrug it off as another one of those tales. But it is true - just look at the houses of the generals. How much do they get a month? How can they afford to have houses that are so big? Why do we tolerate these kinds of shenanigans when they don't even do their work - the NPA has not been crushed to this day. Talk about being paid for being inept. I hope that this expose does not go the Garcia way too and that we stand up as a nation and say enough is enough.
• Philippines
3 Feb 11
Hello THeAdvocate, The NPA should have been contained if Marcos didn't use them as an excuse for Martial Law as of they are still in numbers and it's hard to take them down when we have lacking a lot in technology, moral and benefits for them. they risked their lives and this is what they see, generals becoming corrupt
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
sigh so true and some businessmen (myself included) used to deal with these shady types it is this cycle of corruption that keeps us from advancing economically and globally
• Philippines
3 Feb 11
so, what did you do with those kind of politicians? it must hard to refuse them or something. there's corruption but i think we are corrupt on a wider scale compare to others.
30 Jan 11
Getting into the military is a very lucrative business. I'm not talking about the rank and file but the military officers and officials. First they are given the best schooling the Philippines can offer. The PMA and the PNPA are both very prestigious training grounds for future military officials and it's free, to top it off cadets are already paid through allowances. Second, they are already assured of a job when they graduate so job hunting is no longer a problem. Third, when they join the force, they are already officials, they could be sent to mindanao to train against the abu sayyaf but they have escorts which means that before a bullets hits them, it will hit the soldiers first not unless they're unlucky enough. Fourth, when they finally join the force, they will hold positions and there will be kick backs just like how many millions Garcia was able to get. Fifth, when they retire they will receive millions just like how many millions Reyes has received. Sixth, when they retire, they could always be appointed to government posts both locally or abroad as envoys. The list is just endless...
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
Hello kameleon, It is indeed, which shouldn't have happened in the first place. what you said is really disturbing and if it's proven true on all accounts, no one will be trusting the force anymore. yeah, i see some of that scenario during the GMA administration and yet i never got the point. there's no doubt that people will continue to have negative thoughts on the PNP and AFP
• United States
30 Jan 11
Corruption in Government seems to be universal. We have had our share of many implying to help us yet once there are only helping themselves. I am sorry all this is coming about my friend as it sounds like it has been long going. I do wish and hope that it gets better but as I have heard so much in the news I am afraid it won't.
• Philippines
30 Jan 11
Hello Hardworkinggurl, Not here in the Philippines, the Military had a chance to advance itself with even second class fighter jets. but now, the country's air-force are flying "relics" from the Museum. It was never a good news, now our water territories are being intimidated with our neighboring countries. even pirates can enter the waters just to bomb and steal fish
@rberon1985 (5394)
• Philippines
30 Jan 11
this is has been a very long long and unended issue in our country.we can't move on and we don't see any progress because of corruption.to point,it is not only coming from the military officials but the government officials itself.this has been justified and proven in our province. if this case won't be resolved and there will be no action from the government, the nation will suffer.poverty will continue to increase.that is why skilled filipinos decided to leave the country because they don't see any opportunities in our country. i hope we work hand on hand to solve the problem.let us help the government solve this issue.with the current siuation of our country,which we are facing crisis and calamities,we have to be united.we have to work us one. thanks for sharing!!happy mylotting!!
• Philippines
30 Jan 11
Hello Rberon, We are already working as every FIlipino on this Islands kept tightening their belts and yet prices kept going. so, probably i can say that "corruption" is the real leech in this country. our force has dwindle down. Our Justice system is very slow at the moment and things are very slow in the processing of documents. like for example, paying taxes.we are loosing a lot of opportunity.