Train culture countries are more progressive?

@louievill (15557)
Philippines
January 30, 2011 8:11am CST
I was thinking because one time I read that countries with a train culture, that is people going to work using trains are more progressive because they always arrive on time, more disciplined and do more work and are seldom late. The Philippines is not a train culture country, we can always take the bus, jeepney or tricycle and our country is broken down to numerous Islands, whats your opinion fellow Filipinos? For non-Filipinos, is your country a train culture country? If it is do you think it contributed to your progress like Japan? If it is not then do you agree with what I've read and said? Give your opinion and how we can counteract this being a non train-culture country. Thank you.
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@Hatley (152380)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Jan 11
three times lost two responses darn. I am in the US and I guess we are progressive but its not just trains,its companies, its wmployees, our young people coming up with new ideas, new products, it not just one thing but a lot of things that help make countries progress.We all need our young people to invent new products so we can keep ahead of other countries.We need to sell to other countries and buy from other countries, we need do keep all our citizens employed. we maybe progressive but we are in a financial slump now and many are unemployed now.
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@louievill (15557)
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
Ye we have lots of talents and fresh ideas here too, I think what they lack is government support so most of them leave the country, you might have noticed that skill and talent is one of the main export of our country, good for the dollar earning but brain drains the nation. Now back to trains, hehe was it not in America that the great railroads were built to cut along the wild western frontiers, taking the place of the stage coaches and pony express, so maybe in a way it did held in National development.
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@zweeb82 (5745)
• Malaysia
31 Jan 11
Haha, brain drain problem remains a big issue in our countries as well. Many who have the opportunity to go out would not even have second thoughts of coming back to our country which is drowning in corruption, oh God help us!~One thing I like of the US of A is that of the freedom of speech & the support systems that are available + so easily attainable. But then again, one might say it always seems like the grass is greener on the other side? Haha!~I rest my case as I count my blessings each day
@lutphie (143)
• Indonesia
30 Jan 11
Who says trains affect the performance and discipline of people, many trains in my country but there are many people who come late, go to school or work. Trains are often late arriving and leaving even though his schedule has been set. Properly, similar to the productivity, strict control, the stability of punishment and the reward is appropriate, the better control, the more stable and better punishment then the reward system performance and more discipline could be expected. Unfortunately in my country things above are not supported with the provision of figuring from the top of level such as government, high-level officials, leaders and even village heads.
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@louievill (15557)
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
Hi good point, discipline and accountability of public officials is really very important, it seems like this is what both our country lacks, Thank you for your opinion.
@zweeb82 (5745)
• Malaysia
31 Jan 11
Nah, I don't think trains have got to do anything with it. It's basically the discipline of the people & like lutphie mentioned, it's accountability that matters the most. People who have no discipline, accountability & sense of responsibility will come late anyway. And one's country may have conglomerates & all the advanced infrastructure on the outward appearance which are only for outsiders to see, but ask the people, they know how much corruption has destroyed the country & how much more the country could have been better off without all the money laundering nonsense
@louievill (15557)
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
hi friend, thats a good answer, it supports and reiterates further that it's accountability and discipline. It makes you, lutphie, and me, I like the way you said it because it comes with that very familiar Asian flare, three of us belong to different countries but we all belong to the same South East Asian region.
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@zweeb82 (5745)
• Malaysia
31 Jan 11
Yup, neighbours we are. One of these days all this injustice will come to an end. No evil will go unpunished but it's just a matter of time.Let's continue to press on & not loose hope!~
31 Jan 11
I personally think that there is a connection with the progress of a country if they are riding the train in going to work or just doing their personal business. We could always adjust our time so that we would not be late in our appointments. It is the discipline and the attitude to improve our lot that makes as progressive.
@louievill (15557)
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
Could also be,cause in our country we would always say, ah there is always a bus or a jeep, no need to worry, then end up being late, with the train then Filipinos would learn to adjust, good answer.
• India
31 Jan 11
I don't think train culture contributes to a country being progressive. India has a strong train culture, particularly in the cities and yet it isn't completely progressive. I think it's more of education, and newer employment avenues, and stopping the brain drain, that contributes to a country being progressive.
@louievill (15557)
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
Yes but I think India is already becoming progressive, and getting more respect from the International community than before, I know because I am older than you , Don't worry, who knows, India might become the next China in Asia
• India
31 Jan 11
One has to give a thought to this discussion.Even though I live in a city where there is not much train culture.There is of course a lot of train which travel to suburbs, but the maximum number of people use the Buses. At the same time, there is a city called Mumbai, which lives in trains,and yes that city is much more progressive than any other city in India.Their work culture is good, and Mumbai is the richest city in India. Next comes out capital city NewDelhi, where the metro was introduced just recently, and the people have started to behave in a nice way. I think you are very right in this discussion, let us see what the other members have to say about this.
@louievill (15557)
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
Yeah in a way I think train culture has a good effect but like what we talked about above, it should be combined with with discipline and accountability and perhaps more positive traits
• China
31 Jan 11
It is a subjective assertion.Every country's traffic must be adapted to its local conditions. whether a country is progressive or not cann't be judged only by its train culture. Venice,Italy built on lagoon ,where islands are scattered all over like stars in the sky,does not use the train as main transportation.
@louievill (15557)
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
Good point,was just thinking about Venice, those bodies of water are like mere canals and just came about gradually from sinking as can be seen in foundations of old structures that were once the ground level. Philippine Islands are different cause they are transversed by both the Pacific Ocean and the China sea. In our northern most province, Batanes, there is a part where the Pacific sort of meets the China Sea, was wondering how the Gondola would fair out against the waves.
@advokatku (4039)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 11
Indonesian society, in general do not have a culture / habit of using the railway as a means of transportation. The train is only partially contained in Sumatra and Java. For residents of Jakarta may train is mass transit but did not answer the problem of congestion due to delays in work or train lines are still using old technology (the manual)
@louievill (15557)
• Philippines
31 Jan 11
Yes Sir, same in my country, old and obsolete railroad cars and tracks are still in use, the LRT and MRT, railroad transits came much later and is mostly in use only in Metro Manila. Similar to your country , it's harder to connect small Islands broken down to thousands of pieces by rail.