I'd like the thank the Wisconsin State Senate Democrats....

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
February 17, 2011 3:48pm CST
All 14 Wisconsin State Senate Democrats have left the state of Wisconsin. In their little collective tantrum, they have walked off the job so there won't be a quorum necessary to vote on the Budget Repair Bill. I'd like to thank the state Senate Democrats for finally cleaning up the corruption in Madison... Sanitizing the State senate of all Democrats is a great start! :~D
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@gladys46 (1205)
• United States
18 Feb 11
Good! If it's okay to borrow to give the millionairs and billionairs unwarranted tax gifts ... it's just fine with me if working people all over this nation protest!!
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
19 Feb 11
In other words, you applaud the democrats who abandoned their state and their jobs just because the couldn't win a vote. "The Unions are getting reinforcements from other states but those don't play a role in the Wisconsin government." That's what unions do. They bring in hired goons from out of state to bully people and make it appear that there are more CONSTITUENTS present than there really are. A mob of 200,000 union people is likely to be made up of only 10% of actual voters in that state.
• United States
18 Feb 11
As usual, you have your facts confused. Only the Union employees are protesting this bill. There are also counter-protests happening. You know those who are completely behind the Governor's actions. The Unions are getting reinforcements from other states but those don't play a role in the Wisconsin government. They are there just to make noise. The Democrats who refused to seat a quorum have shown a massive amount of cowardly behavior and are acting like little children throwing a fit because things aren't going their way.
@gladys46 (1205)
• United States
18 Feb 11
No Sierras ... you are "usually" wrong!! Firefighters, police officers and correctional officers as well as hundreds of students are among the protesters!! Even though the republican governor excluded firefighters and police from losing their collective bargaining powers, THEY still march with their brothers and sisters of the different unions. Sadly, whatever limited information you have sierras is just that "limited" !! I applaud the democrats who refuse to SILENCE the people!!
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
17 Feb 11
I agree and I think they should be treated as employees of a private company would be treated. It's called job abandonment and most jobs would fire someone for doing it so blatantly.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Feb 11
The thing is, they even know how illegal it is to do this. They didn't just refuse to come into work. They had to leave the state completely so they couldn't be ordered to return to work. COWARDS!
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
17 Feb 11
Yeah, I read that, if found, the police could physically drag them to work. Personally I wonder how many people actually support their actions and how this will effect them in their reelection campaigns.
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• United States
17 Feb 11
I wonder if the state can extradite them back?
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
17 Feb 11
I admit. I just thought they were acting like a bunch of babies throwing a fit. Never thought about the good aspect of them leaving. I must say there have been lots of votes people haven't liked and they never acted like this.
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• United States
17 Feb 11
Can you imagine what would happned if all the members on one side in congress decided to hop a plane out of the country to stop a vote? This is getting beyond stupid. The patients are running the asylum now. And we wonder why our country is in the shape that it is. Look at the kind of people that are running it (goes for both sides)
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• United States
17 Feb 11
Not sure that would be such a bad thing if it was Congress. Then at least we wouldn't be getting anymore stupid legislation.
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@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
18 Feb 11
Well, if the Dems. are now Felons then the Reps. should go on ahead and vote because they do not need the Dems. for a quarum anymore.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
18 Feb 11
The law in Wisconsin states that there needs to be at least one person from each major party in order to vote.
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@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
18 Feb 11
Too Funny...Their brains must be frozen too.
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• United States
18 Feb 11
so does that mean if only two people show up (one from each side) they can vote to pass a bill? Scarey.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
18 Feb 11
As I heard it, you're only telling part of the story here. The Republicans dominate in Wisconsin...the governor is also a Republican...and this bill was rushed through the process, coming up for a vote in a matter of days. There are many things in the bill that need to be discussed, with the input of the citizens of the state included, but the governor refused. In the midsts of massive demonstrations, and in order to stop the vote, the Democrats left and are only asking the governor to take another look at the *entire* bill. There are other issues here in addition to collective bargaining rights...which themselves were a long and hard fought battle. Since the citizens of the state are speaking out so loudly against the Republicans and the governor, should they be sanatized as well?
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
18 Feb 11
spalladino as our President has told us Elections have conquences. The people of Wisconsin had their voices heard in November. We had large increases in Educational Spending under Gov Doyle (D) and the Republicans did not walk out. Come on Democrats grow up and do your job or quit.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
18 Feb 11
Yup! Once again, the most unfair thing you can do to Obama is to quote his own words. ;~D
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
18 Feb 11
Spalladino, what you are missing is, there are laws requiring Wisconsin State legislatures to be present during floor votes. The Fugitive 14 knew that if they just didn't show up, they could be brought in forcibly by the state police. Also, crossing a state line in the commission of a crime makes it a federal offense. They also used a telephone to communicate demands during the commission of a crime, which is a federal felony. ~~~~ As far as party dominance, we just ended 8 years of Democrat dominance of the state legislature and governor's office. Never once did the Republicans commit crimes to prevent a vote. The voters of Wisconsin chose to give the Republicans dominance by a large percentage. The Democrats also can't say they were taken by surprise by Gov. Walker's agenda, since he spelled it out pretty clearly during the campaign. Either way, their opposition to the bill does not excuse resorting to crimes to prevent a vote. When Conservatives acted like spoiled brats, I was willing to call them on it here at MyLot... Now it's the Wisconsin Senate Democrats that are doing it... but the Conservatives didn't break any laws doing it.
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• United States
17 Feb 11
Yeah more politicans acting unprofessional and like spoiled brats. Anyone filed papers yet saying they abandoned their posts? People of Wisconsin please remember this and vote these immature idiots out when they come up for re-election. Try voting in some adults who can actually act like adults.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Feb 11
I really hope their constituents start recall votes for each and every one of them. There is no excuse for simply walking out on the people who elected you and pay your salary.
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• United States
17 Feb 11
Ok I went and read up on this and I have more to say. (as you can imagine) The democratic members bordered a bus and LEFT the state to keep the vote from being able to be held. Wow. And the left has been saying the right have been obstructionist. This may even beat the "fruit cake" incident. I mean wow...I take it the bill passing was a forgone conclusion. So what is going to happen? Do they plan on staying out of state permenately? Because the first time one of them walks back in they will immediately call a vote on it. So are they going to basically hold the state hostage and NO legislation gets done unless they get their way? I say fire them. Charge them. They abandoned their jobs and their state. They are done. By the way...if republicans would have pulled this I would have been disguested too. I am sooo tired of the publicity stunts and temper tantrumes from politicans on both sides. I don't tolerate from my kids...I won't tolerate it in my elected officials.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
18 Feb 11
If they left then the Union member should be very upset with htem because they were not there to listen to the people who elected. I hope they do not get their per deim while they are out of the state on personal business.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
19 Feb 11
SOunds like you are a happy camper about that!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
20 Feb 11
Yes, I am a happy camper that the Fugitive 14 are showing themselves for the corrupt cowards they are.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
18 Feb 11
Well, they're back and ready to vote today. I loosely followed it yesterday just shaking my head. Some spiteful part of me was hoping they would be found by police in a neighboring state and extradited back to Wisconsin....but alas....didn't happen. The sad fact is those who voted for those 14 will do so again when their turn comes up. They see them as heroes rather than criminals.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
19 Feb 11
I don't believe that it is a criminal offense so there won't be any charges. However, I heard that the doors will be locked and police will be blocking the exits to prevent the democrats from abandoning the job they were elected to do.
• United States
18 Feb 11
Have you heard if they are going to be charged? They should be.
@gladys46 (1205)
• United States
18 Feb 11
There was also 2 republicans refusing to take part in this rush to destroy unions by couching that deep within a questionable short term budget fix bill.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
18 Feb 11
They are also violating the law, according to what I heard on O'Reilly last night. But nobody says anything about it--if Repubs did it they'd be hauled into court. I don't understand why the people are not upset by this. Their reps are running away to avoid a vote on something that seriously impacts their wallets!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
18 Feb 11
Oh, there is upset! There will be a counter protest tomorrow in Madison!
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
21 Feb 11
Spalladino, it's a good thing to stand on principle but those same reps probably wouldn't object if something similar to this was done to non-union employees. But who knows? They didn't have to break the law, couldn't they have just voted "present"? The political power that unions have is frightening. Nobody should have that much influence over so many government officials and even our president. And all those pensions that are underwater would not be if the unions wouldn't spend all their money on influencing elections and such. Now, about the comment about bused in protesters, both parties do this so your disparaging tone (or am I imagining it?) is puzzling. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't agree with busing in help--it's a sign of weakness and lack of confidence--but everyone does it.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
21 Feb 11
Ted, are you referring to the Tea Party activists who were bussed in...many allegedly from out of state? Dragon, the reps who left town in order to stop the vote did so in support of the large number of the people they represent. It's been all over the news and the web that they violated the law and that law enforcement has made some efforts to locate them. That in itself should give some indication of the seriousness of the objections here. Each and every one of them put their freedom on the line and left their families in objection to this.
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