A Martin Luther King moment?

@laglen (19782)
United States
February 19, 2011 9:10am CST
Jesse Jackson compares the union fight in Wisconsin to a Martin Luther King moment. In my opinion, he is right. The unions would be the ones saying "go to the back of the bus".
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@hofferp (4739)
• United States
19 Feb 11
Jesse Jackson just disparaged Martin Luther King's memory, in my opinion. I'm waiting for the race card to come in to play, since the Dems, unions, etc. are bringing everything to the table to try and win this battle. And they're going to lose, the majority of the American people aren't with them.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
20 Feb 11
If they win, they lose. Teachers will be laid off. Then who wins? The unions and thats it!
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@hofferp (4739)
• United States
20 Feb 11
The unions may win temporarily, but I think the American people are watching, and if they were sitting on the fence about unions, they aren't anymore. I see this whole thing as permanently hurting the unions in the end. I can see more states (and I hope mine is included) passing right-to-work legislation. How can they afford not to?
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
21 Feb 11
I think that is best practice. You should have rights as a worker but the employer needs rights as well.
@matersfish (6311)
• United States
20 Feb 11
I'm far from a historian, but from what I can tell about Dr. King, he was a pro-union guy (for the times), a equal opportunity guy (for the times), and a fairly common sense-driven man (for the times). People (I won't say "right" or "left," because they definitely stretch out in ideology) attempt to ride in on King's legacy to earn some instant credibility in whatever they're speaking about. Personally, I find it hard to believe that Martin Luther King, Jr. would be for allowing unions to drive up wages and benefits through the roof until it completely bankrupts the state and hurts private business and causes non-union people to bear the brunt should any politician come in swinging the higher-taxes-fix-everything club and subsequently sticking it to the "working person" - just the other kind of working person, obviously: the non-union worker. For the times, when people truly weren't equal, when America wasn't trillions of dollars in debt either, Dr. King probably agreed wholeheartedly with workers' rights and would side with the unions against the government looking to tamp them down. But, again, that's for the times. There's fair, there's equal, there's right, and then there's grossly out of proportion salaries and benefits and union bullying which all goes far beyond looking out for the proverbial "little man" and goes much deeper in an attempt to make public sector jobs as well-paying as the upper echelon of private sector jobs. If everyone in the private sector made 80k+, then okay. But the taxes are also taken from men and women working at nursing homes and at fast food restaurants and in diners and on construction sites and everywhere else where people scratch and claw to get by. Should they join the unions, too? As I said on Rollo's discussion - let's ALL join the public union since they're so fair and so great! Where will the money come from? Who cares!? We're union! We want the best of everything on someone else's dime because it's workers' rights! What's MLK about this moment, Jackson? The President's political arm getting people riled up to leave work and protest? Politicians fleeing the state to avoid voting? There has to be middle ground here. But you don't find it like this. Just something I was pondering earlier. If taxes were raised on everyone in order to "help," and public union workers effectively do pay taxes (ayy), they would just "bargain" their way to higher salaries and higher benefits to compenstate, thus making it all pointless anyway. So WTF, unions?
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
20 Feb 11
well said and so true. Somebody has to pay the bill. We are officially running out of other peoples money.
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@Rollo1 (16650)
• Boston, Massachusetts
20 Feb 11
I agree with matersfish in that everyone these days is trying to appropriate MLK to lend credibility to their cause. However, it's not really possible to put MLK into every current situation and say "this is what he would have supported" or even the opposite. Personally, I wonder if MLK would have been in favor of denying the children their education while well-paid teachers refuse to go to work, calling out sick when they are not sick. I think he valued integrity, truth and education.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
20 Feb 11
I understand and I agree, when you cant say anything profound yourself, you go to others. I do too. But Jackson really needs to find a new argument...
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@onlydia (2808)
• United States
20 Feb 11
I just so happen to like the back of the bus. And Jesse Jackson is still trying to ride the coat tails of a great man. As Jesse Jackson is full of hot air most of the time. Wisconsin will get it all figured out. And with no help from Jesse I mite add.
@laglen (19782)
• United States
20 Feb 11
I agree my dear. I guess those that cant be great themselves...
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