New Zea land's Win Against Pakistan ...The Biggest Upset So Far?!!

@AKRao24 (18174)
India
March 8, 2011 11:12am CST
New Zealand has beaten Pakistan today by 110 runs! The performance of the Pakistani team was surprisingly very average in every area. The bowling, the batting,the fielding...there was no spark seen the team at all today! The undefeated team in the group A has got defeated today in a bad way!! Do you think this is the biggest set back in the World Cup Tournament 2011 so far! Can Pakistan fight back and regain their position? Please respond! Thanks !
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@krajibg (11940)
• Guwahati, India
8 Mar 11
No Rao, this is not the biggest upset in the 2011 world cup. New Zeland is not a minnow. They are a good side and Pakistan is not a super performer to tag this win by NZ over Pakistan the biggest upset. If we look for the real connotation of the real upset, it was the game between England and Ireland. Can you still think that an associate twam like Ireland could win a high scoring match. And that is the great upset.
@moksha09 (468)
• India
8 Mar 11
I won't call it an upset at all. I was surprised the Pakistanis defeated Sri lanka and today they were shown their true standing in the cricket odi hierarchy by the Kiwis. It is a revelation that no side in this world cup has a strong bowling attack. So the better fielding sides with a decent batting side will prevail in this world cup.
@AKRao24 (18174)
• India
8 Mar 11
Hi Dear Krajibg! You are absolutely right! In fact I have started this discussion with this topic to attract the members regarding the performance of Pakistan team! I was really surprised the way the Pakistan team was playing today! Was that because of the over confidence they developed as thy were the only team in Pool A who never got defeated so far or it was some thing else? The zeal, killing instinct and the typical determination which is always seen in Pakistan team was lacking today! I agree that New Zealand's team is good one ! But today I think it is mainly the average performance of Pakistani Team which has given the Victory to New Zealanders than their own merits! This includes the Century by this team during the last overs! What do you say? Thanks for responding!
@krajibg (11940)
• Guwahati, India
8 Mar 11
Exactly.
@moksha09 (468)
• India
8 Mar 11
It will be very difficult for Pakistan to bounce back from the hiding they got today.Their thin bowling resources were exposed today.The Kiwis surprised the Pakistanis by taking the power play when they did and so the two best bowlers Gul and Afridi were bowled out much before Afridi had planned and in the last 6 overs Taylr, Oram and Nathan slaughtered the gentle offering from Razzack and the very poor Akhtar. Akhtar should have left the game long ago but the cricket scene in Pakistan is so chaotic that the power groups within the country will not allow the new talent to come up. And Akmal dropping so many catches has become an international joke. They appointed Afridi as captain when he was feeling lost and clueless a few seasons back and Afridi established himself as a bowler who could bat, in fact he too should have left the game a few seasons ago. Then the cricket board realized their mistake and wanted to appoint Misbah but by then the team was divided and the last minute confirmation of Afridi as skipper for the world cup was just done in time to avoid a major confrontation.So this team was busy fighting battles within when they started their world cup campaign but now everyone is exhausted and you may see Pakistan cricket team imploding in the next few matches. At best they may finish fourth and that could mean facing India in the QF. They don't like that at all.
@AKRao24 (18174)
• India
9 Mar 11
Hi Dear Moksha! I agree the performance of the Pakistani Team was average or below average, looking at the capability of the team! Keeping the politics a side, there were few mistakes which occurred in the strategy making while the match was on which also played major set back for this team! Several catches were dropped with poor fielding! The players were not good either before the wicket or behind the wickets! In spiteof all this they could control the average run rate to a descent level till 40th Over, till the time the unexpected disaster has started for them. Inspite of all the politics they had, in spite of washing their dirty linen publicly, in spite of having undependable wicket keeper and bowlers, they came back in the World cup as a team and proved their presence in pool B by winning all the matches played so far till this match! Looking at the past, knowing the temperament of the Pakistan team and the determination they have, it won't be a big surprise if the team pounce back with full aggression to make their presence felt, which they can do at any given time! Thanks for responding!
@isloooboy (1741)
• United Arab Emirates
9 Mar 11
I think you forget who is leading wicket taker in this world cup. Yes you are right he is a bowler and if he can score 30 odds runs than these runs are bonus only, so you answer your own question when you ask he buckle down. Look he stay's as he is in his batting is concern so we never rally on his batting. As concern of his bad behavior with team mates than yesterday he got response for its bad doings and I hope Manager Intikhab Alam and Coach Waqar Younis must look through in this matter and maybe they are already. Well yuvi perform in just one match and you gave all credits to him but trying to steal credits from Afridi who is performing continually in all matches and have the lead in all bowlers till now which is not justice I think. Look we have witness so many casualties in cricket which are unbelievable but we must admit this is part of the game. Otherwise we can not get any chance to analyse these kind of situation. Grouping is an dangerous thing for any team in any sport its not only restricted with cricket or Pakistan. As per my knowledge right now there is no grouping involve in the team but some weak links are there like Razzaq in bowling but on the other hand he can bat and he is the one who bring Pakistan to the total of 190+. Shoiab was not used properly I think, he must be used in spells like shawn taint used Australian skipper against Sri Lanka. Shoaib being speed star he has to use his all power during bowling so 2 overs are enough for him and can be used after giving him rest. Well, every team has weaknesses and strength according to there squad and they doing there best but one has to win and one has to lost so its not big deal.
@moksha09 (468)
• India
11 Mar 11
hello islooboy The world cup has just begun , wait for it to reach the QF stage and then we will see what happens to dear Afridi's bowling. Let him take all his wickets now against the minnows later his bowling will be hung all over the boundaries. well, don't mind but he is going to get clobbered like he has never been clobbered before. If he comes up against India he has had it. He will get just dessert for all his sins when he is hammered.and his own team mates will turn against him.That will be justice. I know Pakistan is your favorite team but none of their players except U Akmal and Misbah is respected and liked by the other players. Shoaib will disappear when he comes up against the Indians. Yes, someone has to win and it is not going to be Pakistan, no way.
• India
8 Mar 11
i dont think there any problem for pak as far as getting into quarter finals but for sure their moral must get down by todays defeat. and till 40 overs of first innigs they were in total command of the match as kiwis were goin on only 4 runs /over till 40 overs but the game changed in last 10 overs or so for newzeleand.
@krajibg (11940)
• Guwahati, India
8 Mar 11
Hi divyangshu, Exactly. We usually apply the term upset to mean when a strong and reputed team like say, Australia, England, India, Srilanka etc get defeated by teams like Canada, Ireland or Kenya.
@AKRao24 (18174)
• India
9 Mar 11
Hi Dear Divyang ! Yes since Pakistan has got full points against their tally,till they have lost this match there won't be a problem for them to getting into quarter finals! And as it has been observed in spite of average performance they have managed pretty good run rate! Only the disaster has started in the last few overs! This feat may not be repeated in all the matches and looking at the temperament of Pakistani team, they should pounce back as a wounded tigers to make their presence felt, which they are definitely capable of doing it! Dear Krajibg! Thanks ,I think the thing what you are trying to explain is understood to even eight years old boy who plays Cricket on the streets (Galli Cricket) in India, as Cricket is a religion in India! Please Try to get the crux of the discussion! Thanks for the response!
@ram_cv (16516)
• India
9 Mar 11
The biggest upset of the tournament so far for me has been Ireland vs. England. This was a match of an associate team vs. an established team. On the other hand, Newzealand's victory was also a big upset, but this was a match between two established nations. Cheers! Ram
@AKRao24 (18174)
• India
9 Mar 11
Hi Dear Ram! Yes, I agree with you ! The former was a upset between two teams of different calibre and the latter one is between the two teams of similar calibered or of established teams ! Thanks for responding!
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@ebuscat (5949)
• Philippines
9 Mar 11
For me yes it is the time we can't know it is happened it is that the time of Armageddon it is happened truly.
@AKRao24 (18174)
• India
9 Mar 11
Hi Dear Ebuscat! Thanks for your supportive response!