There's No Danger, Or So They Tell Us
By debrakcarey
@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
April 2, 2011 2:08am CST
Did you know that another nuclear plant in Japan is smoking? It is seven miles from the stricken Fukushima plants.
Did you know that it is being reported that the workers trying to contain the meltdown are predicted to die within days and that Japan is asking USA to send workers to help?
Did you know that levels of radioactivity are 10,000 higher than 'normal' and Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Agency has told the operators of the plants to retract their findings as they just can't be that high?
Levels of radiation outside the evacuation zone are double those found at Chernoybl.
Levels in Japan's ground water and soil at 10,000 times higher than normal.
Did you know that there is a typhoon track (major weather producer for USA west coast) passes over Japan on its way to Alaska, our weather comes to us from right over Japan!
Radiation levels all over the world, in US, Europe are rising. Media says that they are not high enough to pose a danger?
We are being told that none of this means we are in danger. Are we being lied to?
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5 responses
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
2 Apr 11
Of course we're being lied to! They think we're so stupid that we'll panic and there will be trouble. Well, maybe they are right but I don't think so. If we are aware, we can prepare.
I think a lot of it will be lost in the ocean before it reaches the U.S. I'm not really worried.
But I do worry about Japan and the surrounding places that may get a bigger dose of it. So much of their land is now ruined for growing food, their animals are contaminated and might die and they'll have to import most of their food for years. Same with nearby countries that might get the radiation. To say nothing of birth defects and radiation sickness and the toll it takes.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Apr 11
I'm not an expert, but radiation like this takes a long time to decay as I understand it. And it NEVER really goes away completely. That is why we can determine the age of things by Carbon 14 measurements. It will scatter but that does not mean that it is safe. A little bit goes along way with radiation.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Apr 11
If the radiation is NOT just radioactive iodine, it takes a long time to decay. Radioactive iodine has a short half life. But if it is on the level of Chernobyl, and other radioactive agents are involved, it will take a long time. Just a clarification.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
2 Apr 11
I stopped believing anything the so-called media says a long time ago. I use alternative sources for my information.
Although I do support nuclear power, I agree that there has to be a safer way of using it. When I saw that they were using seawater to try and cool things down, I knew that they were in big trouble.
The radiation particulates will eventually settle into the ground, but the radiation will remain for a very long time... which will raise the ambient radiation in those areas.
I think people will eventually adapt to it, but it could take a while, and a lot of them are probably going to be showing some effects of that in the meantime.
To answer your basic question... yes, we are being lied to, as usual.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Apr 11
http://www.solarstorms.org/Hiroshima.html
Link to medical studies on the survivors of hiroshima. Chernobyl is mentioned to.
Another site with gobs of info:
http://hps.org/publicinformation/radterms/
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Apr 11
This page specifically addresses the reactors and radiation leak of the Fukushima plants.
http://hps.org/fukushima/
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@LaDeBoheme (2004)
• United States
2 Apr 11
Just curious, Destiny007, what alternative sources do you use for your information? Perhaps you are privy to info not privileged or declassified to the general public yet.
I was brought up an Army brat. My father was stationed in Japan in the early 50s and my family, as dependents, lived there also. This was within 10 years of the nuclear bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Let's talk about some serious fallout and radiation! I am sure the ground was saturated! BUT, so far, none of my family, including my brother who was born there, have suffered any ill or long term effects. Of course, we weren't at Ground Zero, but we were a lot closer than the US is to Japan.
Maybe that's why I am so jaded when it comes to hearing about radiation from Japan. I really don't mean to pooh-pooh anybody's opinions, but I have seen similar situations happen before.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
12 Apr 11
I thought I'd already responded to this discussion but obviously I didn't! I guess that's fine since they just announced in Japan either yesterday or today that Fukushima is now at the same rating as Chernobyl. I'm sorry but I don't think anyone can say for sure we're not in any danger!
You ask if we're being lied to; I'm pretty sure we are or we will be if it turns out we are at risk. I'm not singling out the media or any certain members of the media or anyone from the government. I don't think it's only Americans being lied to or at least not being told "everything". This is something I don't think has anything to do with what party is in power - here or anywhere else in the world - or whether someone is liberal or conservative.
Let's face it, if we were facing the worst case scenario what could they say? Should President Obama or any other President or world leader calmly announce to the people that we're facing an "On the Beach" situation?
Annie
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
14 Apr 11
Who are "they"? YOU know...THEM...the ones who always "say" everything...lol! I always get a kick out of that yet I constantly say that, "They say...".
I know the people of my state were lied to after Three Mile Island but it didn't come out until about twenty years later. Anyway, I think you're right about the government not thinking we're smart enough not to panic but I'm afraid in many cases - TOO many, actually - they're probably right. I think if we were told there was any danger at all there would be those who would panic and there would be a lot of hyperbole and exaggeration and then there would likely be looting and violence, not to mention accidents on the roads if people tried to evacuate to God knows where. You're right, it's not politics, it's just the nature of the beast...on all sides.
Annie
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
14 Apr 11
We are the sheep and they are the shepherds. I'm so tired anniepa. Not sleepy, but tired of dealing with ignorance.
Here we are, me and you. We will vote differently and we think we are right in how we vote. But you love your family, I love my family. We work hard to get ahead, we care about our fellow man. Why isn't that enough? Why is it that people have to destroy thing rather than build things together?
Sorry, just feeling real low right now. The world is going to h*ll in a hand basket. And all people can do is tear one another up.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
13 Apr 11
"they" its not a very desciptive word is it? Who are 'they'? Well, who's in charge of the information coming to our press. We discussed that the Japanese culture is very reticent (sp?) they are very likely to downplay the danger out of embarrassment. There is also some speculation in blogsphere that they didn't tell the whole story about past inspections, they didn't do the recommended safety changes that the manufacturer of the plants recommended and then falsified documentation. They may be saving more than 'face' here. It HAS been reported, that they downplayed the severity and now we know that. Were they 'lying' or just 'saving face'? No matter how you look at it, we are most likely not going to hear of the complete danger to us here simply because ir would cause economic repercussions. I don't know about you, but I don't think our 'government' feels we are 'smart' enough not to panic. They well known for keeping us in the dark. And that's not politics...its just the nature of the 'beast'.
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@kukueye (1759)
• Malaysia
3 Apr 11
yup sound like some big conspricy to prevent public panic i guess those grain or dust that are radioactive once injested may increase chance of cancer and may effect livestock or vegetarian plants , however chances are low however risks are still there , maybe can alert and stay indoor wear mask .buy radioactive detectors.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Apr 11
I just wish I didn't have to think so hard about this. Should have paid more attention in science.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Apr 11
Why is being cautious panicing? Panicing is digging a hole and crawling in, or going crazy cause you feel there's no hope to survive. I'd take what she as doing over hiding my head in the sand any day. Then IF there is a serious problem, what have you gained from hiding from it. Were you never a boy scout, you know....be prepared? 
@LaDeBoheme (2004)
• United States
3 Apr 11
Is that what you are doing, kukueye? Staying indoors? Wearing a mask? Buying detectors? That's all a part of the panic thing, don't you think? What is wrong with trying to prevent panic? What good does panicking do?
@sweetme329 (500)
• Australia
3 Apr 11
It is such a confusing yet dangerous issue. I have been hearing about all this conspiracy and things that makes me scared. It might be a way to stop people from panicking while they quietly sort everything out. Whatever it is i hope there is not much danger. Japan has already face so much pain and trouble, it would be devastating to see the whole world fall apart.
God Bless!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Apr 11
I mourn for the people of Japan. I will mourn for the world if it does fall apart.
