Quezon City to punish parents who dont send their kids to school

@staria (2780)
Philippines
April 11, 2011 10:23pm CST
I read an article regarding this. And I super agree w/ this ordinance. QC is planning to fine them (Php 5000) or one-yr imprisonment. I think it's high time that the parents become really "responsible" over having too many children and not being able to send them to school. And to make them realize that it is not just about having kids, but taking up lots of responsibilities like giving them proper education (among the long list of being a parent). I dont want to be bias but that's the way it should be, imagine in QC alone there are 145,000 out of school youth! Now that's a lot! What are they doing? They are involved in fraternities, gangs, they became drug addicts, etc? While some want to go to school though their parents are not capable or do not care at all. Your thoughts fellows?
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@kheydia (882)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
Yes i agree with this, parents should be responsible enough for the welfare of their children while it is still in their care and or it is still in their supervision, and not just making them and let them grow without not training them and give them education. If parents cannot send their children to school or cannot provide for the basic needs for their children, they rather don't make children at all...
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
yes absolutely. that's why RH (reproductive health) bill is also being passed. Because of the ballooning population and a high number lives below poverty line. These parents arent responsible enough, or just do not care at all. They do not think about their future, nor their kids' future. It's funny because most of the families who are really poor has the most number of children here in our country.
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
16 Apr 11
true enough! they are blinded by the thought that it is just okay. It is okay to be an informal settler. It is okay to rely to the govt, it is okay to bear 10-12 children and not be able to feed them 3x a day nor send them to school.
@kheydia (882)
• Philippines
15 Apr 11
Well as for me, if only the people were responsible enough and know what they are doing and not that selfish at all, i think that we would not be needing an RH bill here. It is just so sad that some people are not that educated or do not want to educate themselves regarding this matter.
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
I believe this is a best ordinance; and who ever made this ordinance should be given kudos. I support this; I hope the authorities will enforce it right away. You know how is it here in the Philippines - some of the lawmakers are good only in grand standing and our authorities are so lax in enforcing the laws. This is great for the would be parents to think first before having too many children. Gosh we're a small country, I mean our land area is very small and we're having population explosion.
• Philippines
15 Apr 11
Yes and I hate to see people who instead of going to church or looking for a job just sit out there with their friends in a drinking spree.
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
like what they say, we have very good laws but the problem are the law enforcers. We are a small country, we have a ballooning population but we can use this in our advantage. The problem is the employment is never enough (the govt part). And some people are just too lazy and are contented in their indecent condition (citizen's part).
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@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
during the wake of my wife's cousin... she also have a cousin who is a teacher. and that cousin asked my wife how old is our son and she said 5. the teacher cousin said that we have a new law that all 5 years old children needs to be at school already. so that would be from 5 to 12 should be in elementary already. of course the 5 years old will start as kindergarten. the problem is, is the local officials can monitor who goes to school and who are not? i guess they need to have their share with this as well. not only parents, educators and the government also needs to make sure that the kids are in school. specially the parents who can not afford. public schools are asking too much everytime... just heard from a friend who has kids who goes to public school. even the xerox copies for the exams they ask it from the children.... i mean the government pays for this right? i am not sure....
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
i think children aged 5 should be in school already. I started studying during that age. but i am not sure about the law re that. anyway, I doubt too if the govt has all means to monitor who goes to school and who do not go to school. public schools are really demanding at times. i went to public school during high school and the teachers are really strict. they tend to manipulate the children since they arent really paying tuition fees (unlike in private schools). imagine we have to clean the room at the end of the day (w/c is ok) but we need to apply floor wax and everything! it'll take us an hour or so and we can only go home after that. I hope the govt will improve public school facilities and policies too.
• Canada
12 Apr 11
It's been that way here for a long time, and I think it is a good idea.
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• Canada
24 Apr 11
Yes. We have a lot of good programs in place here. Of course things can always improve, but they do get after you if your child is not in school. You can home school, but you must provide proof that you are using an approved curriculum, and they only allow you to homeschool if you have a high school diploma yourself.
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
13 Jun 11
It is really good that your government spends time to really check your kid's education. We do not have that kind of policy here. Actually home schooling isnt really a thing here. Children go to crowded public schools or to private schls w/ sky rocketing tuition fees!
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
13 Apr 11
Good! You are from Canada right? I heard that Canada is really strict when it comes to the welfare of the children. I hope it'll be the same here.
@vannyt (343)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
They should be, this could help solve child labor, unemployment and illiteracy in the country. But before implementing this the local government should also do it's part, make sure that there is enough public schools where kids would have a good studying condition and not crowding in one classroom if not under a tree or worst under the heat of the sun. Provide training to teachers so that they would be parting updated knowledge to their students and not old school stuff. We hope this is not merely a plan going to waste.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
yes, the govt is good w/ planning, but implementing I doubt. If they are really willing to carry this out they should look at other factors that affects the situation and not just blame the parents for not sending their kids to school. this will truly solve the probs w/ child labor. with regards employment, if the govt aims to produce more educated people they should also provide lots of employment for these kids when they graduate.
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
I guess that is the best ordinance I've ever heard. Parents should realize that having children is a big responsibility. Parents should raise good children for the future generation, in order for us to have a better future.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
True! Because they werent the only ones who will benefit if they send their kids to school but the whole nation. And if the nation is competitive, we will grow as a whole.
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
No problem at all! :) You are right, a parent should set an example. The parent plays a big role in developing and shaping the child's future in this society. The parents should realize that and stand up and be a real parent.
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
Thanks for appreciating my response. I believe if we are all going to be better parents for this generation the next world will be a more peaceful world to live in. Parents play a big responsibility to young generation, be a model, set good rules and we will all go a long way.
@silverglint (2000)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
I think other than just placing a fine on the parents, the local government should exert efforts to educate the parents about the importance of education for their children and change their mindsets. A lot of families hardly have enough for 3 meals a day, they will definitely not consider putting their children to school because of the expenses that they will incur.
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
The govt should educate the parents because most of the parents themselves came from the poorest families and they were not able to attend formal school too. Thus the mindset. You are right about this. And they should exert more efforts too to assist these poor families like building more public schools and give them even little subsidy to help in their kids' allowance/school supplies.
@lhenpaule (495)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
It's a good thing indeed, but i guess Ordinance such as that should have started long before, so that "education did not become a privilege rather than a right" of every child. I just read that line " " from a certain article. We could have raised more responsible parents and responsible soon-to-be parents if the local government or the national government itself had strongly imposed a law punishing even imprisoning parents who will not send their children to school. Having children does not stop from making them and bringing them out of this world. It is the right of every child to gain formal education, and it is a responsibility of their parents not to deprive them of such. There is no excuse, in fact, there are a lot government schools that can that can be of help to children to have formal education. But while the local government of QC is doing that, they should also see to it that they have a strong and sufficient support to schools so that the facilities and materials are adequate.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
13 Apr 11
That is very true. It is every child's right, not a privilege but sadly it is the other way around here in PH. Alongside this ordinance, the govt should also ensure that there are sufficient facilities for all of the students. The govt should also play their part and maybe help those whom they will find that were really in need. Like, the parent is a single parent thus s/he cannot afford to send her kids to school or the likes. But I think for those who just know how to mass produce kids, no excuse for them!
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
I definitely agree with this city ordinance. This will teach parents how to be responsible parents. They will have to plan their families in order to send all their kids to school. Some parents just keep on having children even if they can't afford sending them all to school. Some parents don't even know the value of education. This ordinance will surely make them realize their obligations and giving proper education to their children is just one of them.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
Absolutely. This will open the eyes of all parents out there. That there's more than bringing them into this world. Having kids is just a start of the long responsibility list that parents need to play and fulfill. And education is just one of them.
@wadabski (761)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
This is a very good decision. Hope this will apply in all regions of the Philippines.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
yeah, the cities as a whole should be united on this. that's the sad thing here in PH, each city is implementing their own ordinance. let this ordinance apply to all, I think this could be the 2nd best solution to poverty after RH bill.
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
The ordinance is good. It will be a response to the Constitutional mandate that the State is giving importance to education. But maybe they should specify that the fines they are to collect should be allocated to education purposes also.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
Yes, that's a good idea. The fines to be collected can be used to build more schools and to revamp school facilities. I was able to enter some public schools and some do not even have good chalkboards and chairs! while some classrooms do not even have electric fans w/c can really be irritating to children. I bet they are having a hard time learning there.
@Cherish14 (2693)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
I agree with this and i am thankful they finally did something about it. at least now they will be forced to be more responsible parents and not just keep having babies. but for those who have already a lot of children and can't afford to send them to school, what's going to happen to them? will they still be put to prison? who is going to help them send their children to school? i don't think the government has that much budget for that especially knowing that the government can't even provide enough for the people. everything in the market is still very expensive. if the government can help then that is very good. they put to good use the money we people give them, rather than just being corrupted and go straight to their own pockets.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
the govt should put up more livelihood projs for the poor. especially w/ informal settlers (this should be addressed too). In order to uplift their way of living and to provide them w/ a more decent life. If the people are more capable, they will be able to send their kids to school
@katrinapaz (2436)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
i like the idea but then how about those families who are very very poor and has a lot of children. I am not sure how the parents could make each child go to school lest alone provide their meals 3x a day. They cant do anything because they have no job and then they have to pay so what would be left of them. I do hope this is acted upon by QC too as special cases so that they can help.
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• Philippines
12 Apr 11
If this is the case, we must increase the capacity of quezon city jail. I bet that if those parents would reason out that they don't have money to send their kids to school, perhaps they won't be able to reach that amount of money to pay the penalty unless they resort to other crimes. I acknowledge the fact that the quezon city government is encouraging parents to send their children to school and to practice responsible parenthood. Perhaps it's a good start. It would be good also if apart from this, the local government together with DECS will do something to improve the education system. Yearly, we have always been faced with problems regarding the sky rocketing number of encompass which our public school system cannot accommodate. If we are to encourage this parents to send their kids to school, the least these parents can do are to send them to the public ones for they cannot afford the tuition fee at the private schools. There should be enough classrooms, chairs and teachers to accommodate these kids. Without this, the quality of education suffers. The very purpose of the ordinance will be beaten. Full packed rooms, students sharing chairs and teachers handling a very huge class is not conducive to learning. In here, the teachers won't be able to teach properly and will only act as nanny to those multiple numbers of kids playing, gossiping around or doing something else apart from studying. Undermanned school provides a place to stay for these kids while the underpaid teachers watch them while their parents are either gambling or making another or brother sister at home. How convenient!
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
Point 1: correct, the govt may not be ready to accommodate more prisoners if they wont be able to come up w/ the P5K penalty. The government in turn should play their role by building more public schools. Those schools who do not ask tuition fees or if they do only minimal or miscellaneous fees. So these parents would have a choice over private schools who ask for bigger fees. Point 3: yes!! They should give credit to these teachers. Up their salaries and give them good facilities. Most of our teachers just wanted to go abroad because of low salary and lack of benefits. Maybe a check can be done w/ these families, if the parents are just gambling, drinking and all they can maybe go ahead and fine them. But can be case to case basis too.
@GardenGerty (157494)
• United States
12 Apr 11
In the US you can get in trouble for not having your kids in school once they reach a certain age. If you are home schooling you have to prove that you are homeschooling.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
13 Apr 11
yeah, the US and some other countries are strict about the welfare of their children. Unlike here in PH. The govt is not in control. I hope that the regulation gets pushed really soon.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
15 Apr 11
Do parents have to pay for their children's education? Did the city ever consider having free public schools? Some parents in America do pay for private schools, but most schools are free here. Unfortunately, they have trouble getting good teachers in some of the bigger city schools so the kids don't get the quality of education they deserve, but they do go to school.
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
16 Apr 11
Actually, it might be better that way. You don't have to worry about students wearing "gang colors" and causing trouble. I went to a Catholic school when I was in 1st and 2nd grades and we had to buy uniforms. I don't really like having to wear uniforms, but at least you don't have to worry about what to wear every day! It is probably easier to hire good teachers there because you know that a certain amount of money is coming in as well. Does that mean you buy the books as well or are those provided? It's good that they have a scholarship program since it seems like some parents might not be able to afford to pay for educational costs. Thanks for sharing!
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
15 Apr 11
Hi daeckardt, Sadly, it is different here in PH. No absolutely free school here. Though public schools have minimal miscellaneous fees but they have to buy their own stuff too and uniforms. Well, depends on the municipality, some progressive cities provide these to the students while most dont. But since, there's only minimal fees and there's scholarship programs I really dont think that this is impossible.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
17 Sep 11
Yes correct uniforms can really help especially if you do not have the means to buy everyday clothes to wear to school. Yes most of the time we buy our own books but some government school provides books but in a sharing scheme (like 2-3 students share 1 book).
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• Philippines
12 Apr 11
Woah, 145,000 is a big number for out of school youths! Although it's hard for the poor families to send their kids to school, you have a point that they should stop having kids if they can't raise and send them to school. This reminds me of a news I saw yesterday. Summer school for children who are supposed to enter Grade 1 but haven't even attended kindergarten. I think that's a nice program. When one of the parents of the children was interviewed, he said that he didn't send his child to school because the child doesn't like writing much and that all she did was play. OMG mister, what did you expect? It's a child! All it wants to do is play, jeez. I guess aside from financial difficulties, some parents have a bit of ignorance when it comes to the education of their children. The new city ordinance makes sense especially in situations like these.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
13 Apr 11
Hi EnslinPorter, I believe that some parents are just at ease and have whole-heartedly accepted the situation. If you are a parent, wouldnt you strive enough or even harder just to give your kid a proper education. Be it the lowest paying public school? True, they are ignorant or even if they are not.. they dont seem to care. That's the sad thing. And if they care enough, why are there families who can afford to have 12 kids and not send even one of them to school? And they say that they are poor??
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
I do agree. There are really those who take for granted the value of education. But then, what is the parents really cannot afford to put children to school? There is no denying that there are really those who do not have a single penny...but then i guess that is why the government has this project called, p4 project or the cash grant where they give assistance to the poorest of the poor. Oh well i hope that punishment will have a good outcome.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
13 Apr 11
Yes, there are really those who are incapable. But if you really want to send your kids to school and you are really concerned about their welfare and future there should be no factor to stop you from sending them to school and give them proper education. There are really poor parents who still manage to send their kids to college even if they are just doing laundries, driving a jeepney or even picking junk from garbage. I think it is just a matter of taking responsibility.
@edsss17 (4394)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
WOW! That's really awesome! In that case, every parents will sent their kids to school! :) I hope it will be done in my city too! :)
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
13 Apr 11
I hope they implement it in every city, in the whole PH. Imagine if QC has 145000 out of school youth, what will be the number for the whole country? Not only those who live in the city but most esp those who are living in the provinces.
@gelayagui98 (1336)
• Australia
12 Apr 11
The Philippine government should give commendation to whom who created the ordinance, proper implementation should be observed. This way, mortality rate of wrong doing from those of out-of-school youth will be lessen. The penalty must be higher than the amount specified so that parents are obliged to sent their children to school and parents are more responsible to the needs of their children. And, must be implemented nationwide not Quezon City alone.