The Obama illusion true or false?

United States
April 18, 2011 4:53am CST
Obama was adopted after moving to Indonesia by LuLu Soetoro. Obama's name was changed to Barry.How could Barry be an American citizen? Barry became a citizen of Indonesia at his adoption.When a child is adopted the child's first birth certificate is sealed by the court forever.Seems the released colb was not a legal document because Obama's birth certificate was sealed at the time of his adoption.Is the Obama illusion true or false?
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@epicure35 (2822)
• United States
19 Apr 11
Everything about Obama is false and deceptive. That was the root of the gambit of Soros, Arabs, Socialists, NWO elitists, etc. in creating "the perfect storm" by installing an ILLEGAL, INELIGIBLE candidate into the WH. And it has been diabolically successful - play on America's "guilt" over slavery; call everything they say or do against the usurper "racism", and, through such "taqiyy" divide and conquer, disarm and vanquish their enemy and advance their socialist, radical liberal, corrupt agenda. Slavery has existed since time immemorial and exists widespread throughout the world today, most especially in Africa, from whence it was exported by Africans themselves to the New World, first to Brazil, then the US plantations. This "transcontinental" slave trade represented only about 15-20% of the slave trade. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I AM NOT JUSTIFYING SLAVERY. IT IS DEPLORABLE AND SHOULD NEVER EXIST. (However, neither should any other of the myriad faces of EVIL, such as greed ,pedophilia, murder, etc. exist, but, again, since Cain slew Abel, even before when satan formed his own diabolical plan they dog us in our flawed self-destructive weaknesses.) Nonetheless, the United States of America atoned for its part in slavery, made restitution to those disenfranchised by a special Constitutional amendment, and did more than a "collective mea culpa". "Affirmative action" was instituted which then disenfranchised other groups of all stripes, by promoting people (this includes the feminist agenda) who had not earned a position through hard work and excellence (eg CT firefighters, CA dispatcher, students, etc.) This misguided attempt at "fairness" resulted only in the promotion of the wretched, political careers and machinations of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and their ilk. The ultimate follow-through and diabolical "endgame" "genius" plan of Soros and all the above-mentioned, including Arab "college chairs" and NY Borough President Percy Sutton playing their part in the "image development" of BHO, through money and influence. By implementing their plan of emotional/racial persuasion to convince apathetic, complacent, ignorant, naive, deliberately UNEDUCATED, foolish Americans to vote for someone they knew nothing about based on perceived COLOR rather than CHARACTER, their triumph and our nightmare was instituted and all he-- has broken loose in order to decimate a once-free God-respecting nation. At Occidental and other places, he was known as Barry Soetoro. Of course, lots of other aliases and multiple SS numbers have now surfaced as well. Please remember that before the illegal, unconstitutional, corrupt "election" we were allowed to call him Barack Obama (I can still hear traitor Oprah shouting his horrid name aloud to inflame the masses and sway their votes). Immediately after his installation (remember how Justice Roberts, who had promised to recuse himself from administering the oath, then reniged and tripped over it?) and sealing his records against FOIA and admitting thousands of Hamas sympathizers into OUR country by "executive order", on OUR dime/tax dollars, he became Barack HUSSEIN Obama in this country. THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. But we are now well beyond fairytales and well into the bowels of he--.
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• United States
20 Apr 11
dark_joev What I do not understand is by Obama's own admission as a child he was adopted in Indonesia.His name was legally changed at the time of his adoption.In college his class mates only knew him as Barry.I just keep wondering then how did Obama obtain a colb under the name of Barack H.Obama.Father on the colb states Barack H.Obama Sr.Legally that all ended the day Obama was adopted.
• United States
20 Apr 11
epicure35 Read up what I said to dark_joev it is a puzzle how Obama got his first B.C. after he had been adopted.Experts has said the colb Obama placed online is a phony.I appreciate all the work you have put in to your research.Experts would agree you do know what your talking about.
@dark_joev (3043)
• United States
20 Apr 11
Except upon looking at the data on the file he placed online it hasn't been tampered with and you have both Congress and the State of Hawaii stating he was Born in the state. So these experts know little and well thats okay because we live in the United States where you can make up any story you want to and as long as you place enough information it makes people think it is real.
@Rollo1 (16685)
• Boston, Massachusetts
18 Apr 11
Most countries confer citizenship on adopted children. I researched and cannot find one that doesn't of the major nations I looked at. It's possible that one or two may not. There are no adoption papers in evidence so we cannot say there was an adoption or not for sure. The only evidence would be the divorce papers which give custody to his mother. Perhaps if the husband is not the legal father of the child this would be unnecessary.That could point to Lolo Soetero being his adopted father rather than just his mother's husband. It's really just another question that Obama does not address. The number of things that he might explain grows larger all the time. Perhaps not all of the theories or rumors are true, but neither is the official story completely true. Obama should answer the questions if the answers would not do him any political harm. He could have only two reasons not to answer: an arrogance and delight in the controversy; or the answers would do his image or his position damage.
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@sam3m1 (190)
• United States
18 Apr 11
another option would be that he's already shown the birth certificate. the cert. of live birth is apparently what hawaii issues. btw, if a cert. of live birth isn't a birth certificate, what in the world is it? also, i'm not aware of the other questions he hasn't addressed. are we assuming that 40 years ago someone hatched a plot to put him into the role of president? if that were the case, those involved would have made sure that their candidate had no questions about his status, which would have been easy to do by picking someone born in NYC, with all the documentation one would need. why not get real and complain about the policies rather than the man? and, let's accept the fact that a black man was really elected president. granted he graduated top of his class at one of the best schools in the world, appears to have a happy marriage, and is not a crazy, but nobody's perfect.
@Rollo1 (16685)
• Boston, Massachusetts
18 Apr 11
Let's just take this one statement at a time: "the cert. of live birth is apparently what hawaii issues. btw, if a cert. of live birth isn't a birth certificate, what in the world is it?" There are different types of documents available. One is a Certificate of Live birth which shows the hospital, the doctor attending the birth, etc., and a copy of one was obtained from Hawaii by a woman as recently as March 2011 for a fee of $10.00 so it's not hard to get one. Obama released a different document called a Certification of Live Birth which does not have information on the time of birth, the hospital or the doctor. This form can be generated based on information provided by a relative who reports to the Department of Health that a birth has occurred. Now, if you look on page 26 of Dreams From my Father, Obama relates having his birth certificate and other documents in his grandmother's house back in the 70s. That would not be the COLB that was issued to him in 2007. Again, there is no question about "where's the birth certificate"? Obama has it and always has had it. He just showed us something else instead. "i'm not aware of the other questions he hasn't addressed" There are many, since Obama has never released any records. None of his college transcripts or grades are available, for instance. We don't know why his Social Security number was issued in Connecticut in the 1970s. Well, there's a host of things we don't know about him and he likes it that way. If he really is the most intelligent president we've ever had, why wouldn't he want us to see his college papers so we could be duly impressed? "why not get real and complain about the policies rather than the man?" Oh, I do that all the time. I would be glad to do it here, too, but that's not what the discussion was about and it would be rude to use someone's discussions to write something unrelated. Just as it is rude to offer them shiny hats. "let's accept the fact that a black man was really elected president." Yes, a black man was elected. At the time of his inauguration he had a 70% approval rating. I guess that proves the "racist" argument is a completely false one, right? But look at his approval rating today... it has sunk pretty low. Do you suppose that millions of Americans just found out he's black? Or did millions of previously non-racist Americans suddenly become racists? Or did they just find out that they elected a very unqualified person? Let's elect a black man to the office of president in 2012. Elect Herman Cain.
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@epicure35 (2822)
• United States
19 Apr 11
Pray that HEAVEN FORBID the name Obama or any of his aliases appears on the ballot. IF we have to elect someone who qualifies because of his color, that seems roundabout given the horror that was perpetrated in 2008. There are so many great black men who would qualify based on their CHARACTER. These could include Larry Eldridge, Alan West, Alan Keyes, Jesse Lee Peterson, Rev. James David Manning, and others. However, among them, I would choose Alan Keyes, who warned us in 2004 that BHO was a man of 'SEARED CONSCIENCE". Also at the top of my list is Rev. James David Manning, also a true hero.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
18 Apr 11
It depends. Usually unless you gain citizenship papers, you are considered a citizen of your original country. What has to be done is to see if there is a rule about residence outside and inside America. For instance if once you reach adulthood, you have to be in America for so many months a year in order to be considered eligible to vote, etc. then if Obama was not in America from his age of majority, he would not be considered eligible to vote and would not be considered eligible to be president. Ijust know what it is in Canada, when someone travels outside of Canada, that is a Canadian citizen, they have to be in Canada every nine months or so (not to sure about the time) to be eligible to vote unless there is a specific reason or they can stay at the embassy during that time. Npt sure about that either, but when my sister-in-law and husband who went to Artzona, they had to return in the Spring in order to keep their voting rights and citizenship.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
22 Apr 11
There are so many questions surrounding this man. It's not just his birth certificate. Way to many questions to ignore. Show me one other president of the United States that has paid millions to lawyers to keep his life's documents under lock and key. From his birth certificate to his earliest school records to his social security and draft card, to his passport (peope involved in trying to get at this one were murdered) and his college records. Of course no one thought back forty years ago to enable a conspiracy. But there are way to many unanswered questions to think that one is not in the works NOW. Take for instance his college records. If he is the smart man his followers say he is, why hide his thesis or his other records from college? Not even his student loans can be traced. Who paid for his degree? Why is it his thesis is not a matter of record. Why is there a question that Ayer's wrote his books? What about Kalid al Monsour and his ties to the young Obama? Perry Sutton claims that this radical Muslim who works for the Saudi's paid for Obama's education. But the records are SEALED. WHY?
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
22 Apr 11
http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/the-mystery-of-barack-obama-continues/ There are many people who are attempting to find answers. It's not just the Tea Party members who are asking these questions.
• United States
11 May 11
Setting aside Obama's B.C. with his back ground with people like gangster con man Tony Rezko how in the world did Obama clear back ground checks with the FBI and CIA in the first place? Thanks for all the good comments to this post.
@dark_joev (3043)
• United States
19 Apr 11
Obama if he was formally adopted he would retain his status as a Natural Born Citizen (being born in the United States) But the lack of evidence for the adoption is an issue and also the COLB is valid and has been confirmed by quite a few sources even several tech ones that did file analysis on the image that was placed on his website. Also a COLB is a valid form to use to prove citizenship and other federal level things. So him not releasing his Long form birth certificate isn't required.Also the sealing of his long form birth certificate is done by the state and not the fact that he is Adopted. If he was adopted by a person in another country it would still show that he is of United States Origin and would have to make a choice when he turns 18 on whether he or not to keep his citizenship to the United States but at any point past that he could regain entry into the United States as being a Natural Born citizen and our legal system on Citizenship is largely based on Jus Solis.
@_sketch_ (5709)
• United States
18 Apr 11
I have no idea where he was born or whether he is a US born citizen. I never have liked him either way.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
24 Apr 11
Good one!