postal workers dump bnp leaflets

@jb78000 (15173)
April 27, 2011 3:59pm CST
well apparently. the only evidence so far comes from the um bnp, for those that don't know this is an extremist, nasty and small british political party that recently had to be forced to accept non-white members. so not a very reliable source but you can see the temptation. however postal workers do have a clause in their contracts which means they don't HAVE to deliver materials they find offensive. they can just tell the post office they won't, and it then has to find alternatives. so what would you do? dump all the leaflets to make a point? refuse to deliver them, which might not go down too well with your boss? or just do your job? and here is the story: http://beta.uk.news.yahoo.com/bnp-accuses-royal-mail-dumping-leaflets-195651232.html
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
27 Apr 11
Hard to get rid of garbage these days in the U.K. I know though that if I could get rid of it and not deliver it then I would do so. I would probably do it quietly though which is a bit of an anachronism as I am not quiet
@jb78000 (15173)
27 Apr 11
personally i'd like to *add* little things to their leaflets. takes more time but so much more satisfying.
@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
27 Apr 11
Now that's a good idea! I am assuming you mean a little bomb?
@jb78000 (15173)
27 Apr 11
no. not delivering leaflets to the bnp. delivering their leaflets to random members of the public. i though speech bubbles. and, if nick griffin is on the front, little horns. [possibly redundant on nick griffin mind you].
@rachael5760 (2675)
• Israel
6 May 11
I would do my job and then write a blog post to the newspapers about the material that I had to deliver. Not to do your job can and will get you fired for insubordination. I would not want that on my job record!
@jb78000 (15173)
11 May 11
fair enough
• United States
28 Apr 11
Well I don't know what your law's are there. But here in America, the mailman delivers anything if you pack it properly. We had scares for a while of getting Anthrax in the mail (the chemical not the band), the uni-bomber mailed out his bombs. Also heard of people sending all sorts of illegal items in the mail. So, why would objectionable material be an issue. If you don't want to do your job quit, and if the company doesn't want to fulfill the contract they shouldn't have taken it. Don't shoot the messenger... Implies the messenger is a neutral party on both ends.
@jb78000 (15173)
11 May 11
yes but messengers are human. i'd be torn myself.
@ajk111 (2527)
28 Apr 11
i would deliver them. I believe in freedom of speech even if i think it is wrong. the best example was Nick Griffin on question time a while back. everyone went mad. i had previously seen nick griffin on a sunday morning programme where he made a complete idiot of homself. he has no debating skills and is not quick witted enough to get out of trouble on a live debate. and it was proven to be true. he made an ar$e of himself and set back any hope he had of getting votes. what did concern me was people like MP Diane Abbott whittering on about how he should not be allowed on the prog. also people trying to block his enterence to the BBC. if you take a step back and look at that, these people are no better than nick griffin as they are also trying to prevent somebodys freedom of rights and that makes them no different than the bnp, all be it the bnp are more extreme! i watched this man do a party political broadcast on the BBC the other night. he is a european member of parliment. why worry about a stupid flyer? lets be honest....the morons who vote for him will do so with or without the flyer, there minds are already made up. all the rest of us will throw it in the bin. all this news report does is give him more headlines, which is what griffin wanted when he (presumably)leaked the story to the press.
@jb78000 (15173)
11 May 11
while the bbc possibly made the right decision i think saying that people against it are just the same as the bnp, just now so extreme, is REALLY pushing it. you have differences of kind as well as degree between their like, and well, people.
@laglen (19782)
• United States
28 Apr 11
remember back in the day, when if you didnt do your job, you would get fired for insubordination? Ah the good ole days. So bottom line, if I chose not to do my job, I would be fired. I think this is a good system. If you get offended by the material you deliver, maybe you should rethink your career choices.
@jb78000 (15173)
11 May 11
i have a reading list prepared for you. i think you'll enjoy the grapes of wrath to start with.
@Hatley (164652)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Apr 11
hi jb ye old blue bunny.here in the US postal workers do not have that choice as the mail must go thrugh. ugh but if I were a postal worker I would see that the bnp leaflets were added to somebody's trash burning or takeit to a creamatorium and let them burn up there. then I imagine I would get fired for sure. lol lol.
@jb78000 (15173)
28 Apr 11
i didn't realise they had the option here either, and i doubt you really have much option, but i would risk such a job myself rather than deliver such garbage. it is hard to say what would be the equivalent in the states since you are such a two-party system, possibly leaflets from the ku klux klan.
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
27 Apr 11
This is another good reason why not to have public Unions. Making it illegal to mail dangerous objects makes sense but to give the Carrier the decision making power is wrong. If they don't want to deliver certain literature then get another job. What next refusing to political information from the opposition party?
@jb78000 (15173)
27 Apr 11
well since it has never happened here it several decades of conservative power i think the slippery slope argument does not work.
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Apr 11
If I have a clause in my contract, theoretically, to heck what my boss thinks. Realistically that might turn into an uncomfortable situation, depending on the boss's political leanings.
@jb78000 (15173)
27 Apr 11
safest to do that, as it looks like people did, as a big group.
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• United States
27 Apr 11
I would just deliver them accordingly. Some employers ask you that if you come into literature materials that may be "offensive" to you if you would be ok with it. The carriers are not the addressee's and the group paid the postage due they should do their job and ensure the literature gets to the person it is addressed to. And should treat the addressee and the sender no differently than another other person.
@GardenGerty (99477)
• United States
27 Apr 11
I do not think that our postal workers have that option. I would possibly tell my boss they were offensive. If he fired me I would protest.
@jb78000 (15173)
27 Apr 11
assuming that the worst that could happen is i'd lose my job, i'd play it by ear and go for either the first or the second. i think ten or fifteen years ago i'd probably have been more tempted by the first and now more tempted by the second. anyway, i certainly wouldn't deliver the things.