So My Boss Came into my Office and

@cynthiann (18602)
Jamaica
May 6, 2011 8:26pm CST
told me of the latest plan he has. I should mention that for the past 3 years he has been trying to get rid of me. Hasn't succeeded because I am popular with the other owners of the Condominiums that I manage. He is a control freak and because I would not tell him what I earned in my part time job he became overly hostile and rude. I have wept blood in my office. The Condos are luxurious and on the sea. Private beach etc. There is a new block of condos now next door and he has a friend living there. Owners of the new condos are now about to form a management team and employ a Property Manager. But they do not have an office. He told me that as an incentive the Property Manager would live in one of the new condos (studio apartment) and so would be on duty 24/7. With part time help, the new Manager would then manage both properties from my office. He emphasised that the it would be a requirement for the Manager to live on property. I live 15 minutes from my job. Just up in the hills from the town. If the roads are clear I can make it to work in 10 minutes. He knows that I would not want to live in a tiny apartment and be on call. I am on call now but live in my own home. Heck, I would not even be able to use the facilities as an employee. So I am effectively being pushed out of my job, as I do not want to have to buy furniture and appliances or to live alone in a little apartment. Then he had a plan B. If the owners wanted to stay out of this arrangement with the Condos' next door then he would extend my office to incorporate a small apartment. So I am well and truly fried on this one. All I want to do is to work another 15 months to finish pay for my home and hopefully by then my land would be in my name and I could sell some and live in reasonable comfort until I die. Nothing lavish but reasonable. I really needed this like a hole in the head and this year is so expensive for me. There is nothing I can do legally as I should be retired and he knows this. He doesn't even need the other owner's consent as it would be regarded as an issue for the Management Committee. So the next few months should be interesting. He will not make his move until after the A.G.M. which will be in July probably. My children have assured me that they would pay for my house if I cannot work and I am not to worry. But, I am an independent person and wanted to retire debt free. Thank God that I still have the part time job which will be a great help And no, I do not have a leg to stand on as I am passed retirement age. Have you ever made a plan and then some real control freak of a boss just spoil your plans let alone your day?
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@AmbiePam (85433)
• United States
7 May 11
I'm telling you, if more mylotters lived where you do, we could really make his life miserable. I'm pretty sure we'd all stand outside his office and picket him. But since we aren't able to do that, I know a lot of us will be praying. I'm going to pray about his an awful lot. It's a big deal to you, and it's a big deal to the ones who love you. And that includes a lot of us on mylot. Me included.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
Oh Thank you dear. I have been praying from yesterday. If I could just delay it from happening for a bit longer then that would be good. I know that ||I am a bit slower but I take work home if I do not get it finished. He gives me more and more work asking for many unnecessary reports But his too will pass He is not there all the time as he has a home in the city but he is retired so bombards me day and night with calls or emails.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 May 11
I am trying to picture us picketing. I know what you mean about your age being against you. It is worse for hubby than for me. He is retirement age, but we had both planned to work until we were about seventy. A stressful job will kill you, though.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
7 May 11
Good morning Ambie & GG, i would sure be in that picket line if i could. He is such a jerk!!!
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 May 11
I have dealt with unruly bosses. Bosses who hate me one year, love me the next, etc. I was even written up because I was one who would pick up the slack if something was not done and then they could not tell who was slacking off. Cythi, I am sorry that they are making this such an awful year for you.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
Thank you so much. I have mixed feelings. I hope that I may pick up a part time job as I am known to be a hard worker, and am respected in this town. I do have faith that something will turn up and I may be asked to manage another up scale Villa which would help to bring in some money. I am trying to be positive but the unhappiness he has caused me has been sometimes overwhelming. But I am trying to think positively.
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@moondancer (7433)
• United States
7 May 11
Cynthiann I'm so sorry this is going on and there is nothing you can do about what this creap is doing. If he does this to you, or in the event that he does. Even now I'd be checking about for another position that you could be doing in the case that this happens. Yes, this has happened to us. My husband had a couple of jobs in fact the first one just 2 years from a 20 year retirement and they were going around finding the slightest reasons to be rid of anyone. There really didn't even need to be a reason. They just need to make cuts. They budget you know. He was afraid to be one of them. He asked me what we should do, let himself be one of them to be "let go" or do it himself on his own terms. I told him to do what he wanted and I'd back whatever he decided to do. Well, he left. It helped, but hurt. It helped because he made more money monthly but in the retirement he made much less just 40 percent. The next job he was suppose to have a 20 year with he only got 10 or 11 with and things went down hill and the boss was not good with keeping any promise to employees. We lost money and were going into a hole we could not even see the top to dig our way out of. He had to do something instead of staying there, he had to quit. Now he is 2 years into a new company that seems like a good company. But he told them no out of country work because of my health and 2 years where has he been....out of country. Go figure. He has given them til September this year to find him something state side. He says he will quit if they don't. I told him we can not afford for him to quit. I tell you men just don't live in the "real world " sometimes.
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• United States
8 May 11
Cynthiann, I would do just that instead of being left hanging when the time comes and this nut tries to put you out with nothing. As you said you are an independant lady and it will just kill you to be there with nothing if and when that time comes. This man is bound and determanded to make this happen. You will be ready for him when it does. Yes, he misses us so much and the reason for the first company was to retire from it and come home and have 2 retirements and be done stay home with me and the grandchildren. That is just not happening. He is not getting any younger either this traveling is not easy on him anymore. It will work out somehow. hugs..
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• United States
9 May 11
Yes, he was...ahhh such a good memory my friend that has been awhile. He will be home in a couple of weeks and then we will travel off to get the grandchildren and take them on a vacation to Arizona and back here to visit for a few weeks. He is only home home 10 days when he comes. Yes, I'd check into my options as you are doing, quietly. I would not let that oaf get the best of me. Yo have plans and he would not ruin them. Good for you girl!
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
From what you have shared then I really know that you understand. And you and \i are both survivors What amazed me is that I am considering hurt but pretty calm about it. I am considering if I should ask around and see if there are any Villas that I could manage to earn money. |I will put out feelers gently to probe into this. I do know a few people in the business and they may give me a tip off if a Villa needs someone to manage it. Your husband is between the devil and the deep blue sea as he must miss you all so very much. I do hope that he can find or be transferred nearer to you. Many blessings
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
8 May 11
cynthiann, First of all, I want to warn you what I am about to say here but do hear me out as I am coming from another angle on your situation. So, please do not feel offended and I am sorry if you do. Now, I think your boss my seem like a jerk and try to push you out of the job but if you had been hanging on in oblivion then it is about time you realize and change some perspectives. It is obvious that he is covering his back when he mentioned about the requirements for the Property Manager which he knows you cannot fulfill but I wonder if he was actually financially illiterate when he is letting out a tiny apartment for the post instead of collecting rental for it. I believe providing you a car allowance to run all the 24/7 errands plus salary would be no where compared to his current proposal. I gather he's really quite illiterate when it comes to numbers and no wonder we are all in such a world of trouble with people like him. Enough said there, I am wondering if you had planned to look for another job elsewhere or maybe offer some of your office skills elsewhere on a contract or part time basis. The economy may be bad but I do understand that a lot of companies are understaffed. As they cannot afford to hire full time staff, many have been looking for temporary fit ins to overcome the workload. Now, I know you already have a side job and I am thinking if it would be beneficial for you to go totally part time. The other alternative I can probably think about would be to work as a property agent or housing agent which pays better and most of all offers flexible working hours. I am sure with your acquaintances and contacts there could be an angle here. Or, consider joining an MLM company which could even bring about a potential sizable income. So, the door may be closed at this side but please do not fail to see other doors that are opened. I can understand your feelings but I wonder if all that effort is worth it when this company is giving you nothing but pain and increasing your BP. I feel that it is really time to fire your boss and who knows, you may even end up with a company and/or boss that/who will truly appreciate you.
• Singapore
8 May 11
cynthiann, Thank you for your patience and understanding. First of all, the property or housing agent I mentioned would probably be better known as Real Estate agent at your place which deals with the buying, selling and renting of residence, commercial shop and office space. Secondly, MLM stands for Multi Level Marketing company i.e. Amway and I learned that Amway has already been established in Jamaica since last September. Depending on your preference and circle's niche you may want to consider other MLM companies namely Herbalife or Nuskin. Honestly, I really do not think that it is worth any of your effort to stay in this office which is being poorly managed. Even if you might be working there, I do not think it will still be there in time to come with such a management I would not be surprise if it runs itself to the ground.
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• Singapore
11 May 11
cynthiann, I believe that there should be a limit as to how much "trash" one can tolerate but what you've described is certainly horrific by any standards. Furthermore, you are a lady and that's no way to treat a lady. I really hope that you would consider both my options which really does not have any age limit. Make some time, take the course and if you cannot do it full time then, consider part time. Start taking baby steps for now, I know it can be intimidating but if you do not step out you wouldn't be able to know what's on the other side of the horizon. I am not saying that the other villa is not good but I think will need to understand that your age factor may be the other side's hesitation in hiring you. Besides, it will be the same mundane job where when the money stops when the hands stop. "Action is the foundational key to all success." - Pablo Picasso
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
8 May 11
Thank you so much for this response - I so appreciate your response. You are right - I have to look for opportunities that are not ageist. I do already receive a car allowance so as you say - he is functionally illiterate! I just love that phrase. I am not sure what a house agent does but will find out but I am good at Property Management and have strong skills in dealing with and getting the best out of staff. Also upgrading their services to guests to a higher level. People return repeatedly to the Villa because of the service we offer. I do not know what a MLM Company is? Is it Management? You have given me the idea of calling several GF's together for a working lunch and let us all brain storm what I can do. One of these manages Villas and can give me contacts to check. The stress of dealing with him is really not worth it as my heart, sometimes, begins to fibrillate and my Dr. says that this is caused by stress. I cannot thank you enough for giving me all this advice and if you could let me know what a MLM Company is I would be so grateful. remember that I live on a tiny Island only 120 miles long and 44 miles wide at the widest part. The economy is worsening daily but I have to and will survive. Yoy really deserve the BR but I have given it already Many blessings. Yep! Time to fire the Boss. I do not receive a pension from the job any way.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 May 11
Well we all know that your boss is a jerk. Maybe he won't succeed, but if he does, thank goodness for your children. I know this isn't what you want, but I bet that it will work out all right, maybe even end up being a blessing in disguise.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 May 11
I don't blame you for being tired of it. That can really wear upon a person. Hopefully, something much nicer will come along...
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
9 May 11
I have thought long and hard am are tired of receiving his abuse. I think that I will have a few months beforew the axe drops something is going to happen and I will get a job
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
9 May 11
Why should I let him shorten my life? I already have a damaged heart. No more Dawn - no more.
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@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
9 May 11
You poor thing.. it's almost cruel what he does to you! I really do hope that this somehow works out to your advantage. I know you'd be better off not working there because of all the stress he causes you.. but of course you need the money for the time being. I know that you have faith that somehow you'll get through.
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• United States
9 May 11
Grr.. I hate him and wish I could come there and beat him up for you! I'm glad you've finally had enough of his abuse and I hope you're able to find something better.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
9 May 11
Thanks Kat. Am gonna go quietly though - enough is enough. In some way I am not dreading it but looking forward to it. Just want to have something there so I can draw money to pay bills and gas etc.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
9 May 11
Kat, he used the Eff word twice at me this morning. It is awful abuse and there was no need for it. He asked me why I hadn't hired a contractor to do work and I told him that the quotation has to go to the Management Board for approval. That is the norm. he went crazy and said that his approval was the only approval necessary and I was effing stupid for to get the work done etc etc. I have to leave. We are the same month born as we take crap for so long and then we stick in our heels and do not take any more. I have reached that stage and am thinking through the options I have in a very serious way. You and I are survivors and we will get through. will have a few more bruises but that is okay. I will find something else and leave as soon as it comes along.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
8 May 11
Wow!! This does not sound like a Good place to want to be in for sure. Makes you wonder sometimes what a Boss's real motive is when they tend to do things like this, and what type of Legal leg they really have to stand on. I do know that for some reason many Boss's feel like they can be Superior and hang their heads over you. I just think you need to Pray and Thank god for everything you do have and ask him to guide you and the Boss's hand in the direction that is best for all and if that means you are gone from there let everything be OK as well.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
8 May 11
I do not have any legal rights as I should be retired. He is more than stressful and with the help of God, I will find another part time job or something. When I go to Church later this morning then I will pray extra hard. Many blessings
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
11 May 11
I hope things change for you and his plan takes a long time. It is a shame the things they will do to people when they get close to retirement.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
11 May 11
I am now actively looking for another job or part time job but difficult as the economy is so bad out here. The poverty level has increased to over 20 percent. I will go on hoping and if nothing comes up will try to spin this out for a while as long as I can
@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
10 May 11
thats horrible. thankfully, my boss is pretty great and really cares about his staff but the boss i had before him (same company, the older boss is still around but has less imput and is semi-retired) was horrible. he has had so many secretaries quit on him its not funny. i managed to stick him out til the new boss came.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
10 May 11
He was pretty horrible today but he has gone back to town now, thank God. has called me seven times since he reached. Just has all the time in the world and nothing to do with time apart from playing golf. I am so happy that you now have a good boss. I have worked here 13 years.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
7 May 11
hi cynthiann thats really too bad and it sounds like you lose either way there, he really is not a very nice boss from the sounds of things.Like you said you still have a part time job.Still your children must really want to help you and I would take them up on it if push comes to shove. I hate office politics. My job was fine in the library even though I was 79 but we got a new nasty nice second in command and she hated having an elderly person on what she called her staff. mind you she was not the boss but she went after Emily the branch manager until Emily gave in to her. I went to Emily's office to ask for a six weeks leave for minor surgery and out of nowhere she started "this is so hard, I hate to do this, its the hardest thing I have ever done, you are really one of my best pages blah blah" then she lets me have it,"I am sorry I have to let you go." shocked I just sat down too stunned to say anything. I asked " is my work bad?" "NO indeed you are always on time and do all your work.but look you are almost 80." okay so they give me a big hoopla retirement party thinking I had retired voluntarily. When I told my best coworker friend she did some sleuthing.seems second in command had threatened to quit unless Emily fired me. My coworker wrote the head quarters . A week later both Emily and the second bi.tch in command were fired. reason firing an employee only because she was near 80. They called it ageism.I was sadly not able to accept headquarters offer to come back. Why? because I had had a bad fall and fractured my left shoulder so badly I had to have a shoulder joint replacement. I never got back but ten per cent useage of my left arm thus I could not shelve media anymore. I was truly finished so thats when I found mylot.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
In the U.K. he could not do it as long as I was doing my job competently. But he gets me fragmented and I get stressed and hate talking to him on anything. I am so glad that there was justice in your case even though you were unable to return to work. Many years ago I too, qualified as a Librarian but then went on to teaching. My other problem is a rotten lawyer as the land should have been transferred years ago into my name. I am a praying person and am praying that I can get another part time job to help support me and pay my medical insurance. Yes, it looks like the children will have to chip in for me to keep up some standard of living. But I have not given up hope. We are both survivors my dear
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
7 May 11
As i have said many times ur boss is an a**hole. U are too nice to say that so i'll say it for u. I'm not nice like u, lol. I hope u can stay there as long as u want till u need to anyway. God will provide a way for u , Cynthi. He knows what a good person u are. U don't need the stress he causes u ALL the time.I would love to see u be able to tell him to take that job & shove it as the old song goes. I know u don't want to have your kids do that but if u EVER get that land straightened out & in your name u can always pay them back. Let them help u, u have always been there for them & time about is fair play. That man has been trating u awful every since i have known u. Do what u have to do to get out & away from him. U don't need that kind of stress in your life. Hope u have a good weekend. love & hugs.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
7 May 11
I didn't say anything that wasn't true, cynthi. U will get up, u can't keep a good woman down for long. Something better & not as stressful may turn up for u. I'm sure people there know what a good woman u are. I hope something better turns up & u can tell him to go straight to hell. If u can't tell him i can, i got your back girlfriend.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
It makes me so happy that you are on my side Next month I will start to put out a few feelers for another Villa to manage so it would probably start at the next tourist season - October/November. I am going to pray real hard for an opportunity or wisdom to make an opportunity as apart form high bp I am in excellent health - thank God. Blessings
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
I fee like I have been knocked down but I will get up. You are very kind to say those lovely things. I am trusting in God and will not resign or anything but hopefully get another six months salary. It has been 3 or 4 years of he. But you know what it is like to try and get a job when yhou are oder and what with the recession......
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
7 May 11
most certainly. 6yrs ago when i still was paying on my own home. id planned on paying it off like yours and living in it forever. my kids would not step forward and say that. so when one of the elderly guys kids, one of my bosses decided to get rid of me, they did. and yes i lost my house.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
8 May 11
well, i live in my sons house and as you have seen some of my discussions, im not sure if im total sane. but im alive.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
Oh My God - I am so sorry that you lost your house. How awful for you. I won't have to face that as my youngest son (unmarried) who lives in the U.K. earns good money and he offered to take over the mortgage for me if I lost my job. This must have been so very hard for you to live through. Are you okay now?
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
9 May 11
I have read your discussions now that you have reminded me. I am so sorry that you have had to endure so much in your life.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
8 May 11
Hi cyn! I think that your boss is a miserable azzhole! I know that he has been mistreating you for years now and I think that this is the ultimate "slap in the face". I don't understand why he would want to get rid of such a wonderful employee who can always count on. It makes no sense to me. I had so many miserable experiences when I was working with horrific bosses so I do know how it feels. I just hope that it will take him awhile to get someone else to take over your postion and when he does find someone I hope that they screw him over but good! Hang in there girlfriend! He will be sorry in the end! Love and Hugs, Leslie
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
9 May 11
Oh you are such a goof friend. This may be the push that I need to get my bu** out of this situation and do something on my own. You know, why he was telling his scheme, he was laughing and smiling. Actually puts the knife in whilst smiling. I expect that he will not make a move yet until after the next Annual General Meeting so that will give me a few months grace to get my act together and make plans. I thank you Leslie so much for your support. I am laughing whilst typing girl I will have all of my children on the Island for the wedding in July so we can then discuss my options. But I think that I will go into managing upscale Villas as I love my part time job in managing a Villa I will pray that something comes up. Thank you dear - so appreciate your response.
@saphrina (31552)
• South Africa
7 May 11
cranberry vodka muffin - looks nice.
hi sweetie. i had an a$$hole for a boss. he could spoil your day the moment you get into the office. anyway, here have a muffin.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
Thank you - shall we drink rum with it? Better still in my garden whilst listening to the parakeets talking.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
Don't worry! I have lounge chairs so we could lie on them and listen to the parakeets. and if we miss the chairs then we land on the grass.
@saphrina (31552)
• South Africa
7 May 11
off course sweetie. rum it is and we can always try to listen to the parakeets, if we can sit up straight.
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@jillhill (37354)
• United States
7 May 11
Well my bosses are like that a bit too....they like to use us like puppets....the worst part is that if they hadn't been given the business neither one of them would have amounted to a hill of beans....anyway...good luck with whatever happens. I know it's got to be weighting on your mind every waking minute! We'll all say a little prayer for you!
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
Thanks Jill. I need every little prayer for me to find a solution. Blessings
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
7 May 11
Oh Cynthiann, I am so sorry you are having to deal with this stress. I have dealt with a controlling boss whom I considered the devil's nightmare but still she wasn't as bad as this guy sounds. Now are they offering you a condo free of charge? If that is the case, could you stick it out for the 15 months and then be done with this job? Plan B...Could you talk to and get some of these other owners of Condiminiums to speack out on your behalf? I'm sorry, Cynthiann. I wish I could relate to your situation but I have never had a boss quite that controlling.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
I woud need to buy a fridge. stove, and furniture but the main thing is that he has not asked me if I woud take the job. This would be a form of abuse - consranttly at work and there is no law against it as it woud be considered part of the private arrangment between employer and employee. It won't happen immediately and I am not going to make a sudden move. In a month or so I may casually mention it to an owner if the Management Committee has agreed with him. A few of them are scared of him and do what he says so I just don't know yet what to do. Blessings
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
7 May 11
This guy sounds like an ar**e! I am sorry this has happened. It goes to show that no matter how much we plan life has a way to change it all in the shape of a piggy boss! It is kind of your children to ensure that you will keep your home and I appreciate your need for independence but you should consider your family’s offer to help because you deserve it and they would more than likely love to repay you for all you have done for them. Independence is paramount but there are times when we just need to rely on other people and there is nothing wrong with that. I would wait and see what happens and consider accepting the help should you have to leave your job.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 May 11
yes, one of my plans are to 'sell' land to chidren.They could pay me monthly as all of them have responsibilities. The land is valuable as we haver underground water on it. I am not going to do anything hastiy but feel that the rug has been swept from under my feet. Am going to work shortly
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
9 May 11
I used to have this boss who was really a control freak. I was in package development so me and my colleagues would pretty much have control of our time, and managed what we did. We would have more than 30 projects at a time, but we always knew what our priorities were, and what we needed to do, to get our production moving. Then comes this boss who was put in when our original boss went on maternity leave. He would gather all of us in his office every morning, and we would have our 'recitation' sessions, where we would say something about each of our project, and where we were in it's development. We would end up cramming on a few projects because we wasted half a day, each day, with his sessions.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
9 May 11
I have now made up my mind t leave the job but not yet. I want to get something in place before I give in my resignation or am forced to leave. I am going to look for a Villa to manage as I like doing this. I know it says a lot about me but I like to make people happy. I just have to find something and work for people who do not terrorise me. Despite my age, I am going to make this happen. I cannot take the abuse any longer. It fragments me and I make mistakes
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
11 May 11
I wish you luck, and that you find a better opportunity. When you decide to leave, of course.