Who's to Blame? What Are the Limits for 'Calling Rape'?

@mythociate (15189)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
May 19, 2011 4:11pm CST
I mean, I know if it's a case of 'abduction' that there's no question who the guilty one is ... But what if 'the victim' starts it by 'turning the guy on'? And how much does it take to prove that the man was just exhibiting a natural reaction (rather than -willfully intending to harm her)? that he wasn't just acting-on-the-signals-she-sent, but was fully planning to make her regret remaining a woman.
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• United States
20 May 11
"Signals she sent" or "natural reaction" mean absolutely NOTHING. Humans possess self-control. NO means NO, bottom line, end of story. Victim blaming is ALWAYS wrong.
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@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
21 May 11
So, homosexuality IS A CHOICE, yes? (not the one I'm making ) Those who say 'it's a natural thing' are hanging-up their human-status, yes?
@sid556 (31006)
• United States
21 May 11
What does homosexuality have to do with it? I'm not following your thinking here.
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• United States
21 May 11
You are either the most dedicated troll ever or one of the dumbest people I have ever encountered.
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@JenInTN (27565)
• United States
20 May 11
I agree with everyone else here on this one. If the word no is ever said..male party needs to stop. I'm sure it's not easy to do so sometimes, but that doesn't mean that it's ok to have ones way after the almighty No has been versed.
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@moirai (1661)
• Philippines
20 May 11
Lol! I like how you say 'the almighty No'. =P
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@JenInTN (27565)
• United States
21 May 11
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@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
22 May 11
Is that a relative of 'The Almighty Dollar'?
• United States
19 May 11
I know of a man who went to jail for this very reason. The lady was a pro at working the system and making money by doing so - he just didn't know it. She would turn the guy on and then just before he was really ready - she'd "change her mind" and then cry rape. Then she would settle for money. The judge even told the guy that if he hadn't pled guilty he would have walked because the judge knew the girl...sad really.
@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
19 May 11
What, was the guy afraid people were gonna find out what wusses men really are? how 'driven by fleshly-desires' we are?
• United States
19 May 11
I don't think so - I think he was being honest since she told him to stop and he was "too far into it" to stop after she'd led him on..
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@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
21 May 11
it's a scammy-scammy justice-system these days ...
@dawnald (84131)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 May 11
It's pretty simple. Once one party says "no", it's no. Period.
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@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
19 May 11
What if the 'no' comes after (and is followed by ) sequences of 'yes'?
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@dawnald (84131)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 May 11
I have a headache. I'm going to bed....
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@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
19 May 11
But what if you lay there, but decide you're not really that tired; would you be able to sue the bed-manufacturers for wrongful ... something?
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• United States
19 May 11
If she says no to the man and he takes it from her he is guilty of rape.
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@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
19 May 11
What if she says yes and then -says no halfway through?
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• United States
19 May 11
If she says yes and half way says not, then he has to stop. Plain and simple, it is like me saying please kill me, I am all for you killing me, then half way through, though you were resistant to in the beginning, she says stop don't kill me. The killer would still be at fault. I understand if they are doing the do and even while actually doing the do, if the woman or man says stop that means stop, not continue, wait or maybe stop.
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@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
21 May 11
Isn't there a 'point of no return' there? A point where--having gotten so far--you have to go all the way?
@narathos (51)
• Greece
25 May 11
NO MEANS NO. There is no excuse for rape. That's all.
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@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
27 May 11
When one lets go of the ball, it is flung. If she yells "duck" too late, and it hits someone in the head, she is still the guilty one, yes? I'm not asking if rape is ever right; I KNOW it is NOT ... EVER! I'm just asking, at what point has she thrown the no-option away?
@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
29 May 11
And if he impregnates her, why isn't he rewarded for being an obedient beast?
• United States
31 May 11
NO means No whether the woman leads the man on or not when she says stop or no that means the man should stop. If the man continues to do it he is violating her right of free will and that is rape her no should be respected.
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@mythociate (15189)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
7 Jun 11
Yes`m
@xien2xien (1383)
• Philippines
20 May 11
if a girl voluntarily seduce a man, i really think she won't say stop or no, not at all, a girl will only seduced a man at will when she also likes to get it done... sometimes, a woman can be very careless and do things that unintentionally makes a man arouse and get hot towards her, so the best thing to do is to ensure that this girl really wants him or not, misinterpretation of a womans act can be very deceiving. so when a woman says stop, respect her, believe her, or else this man can be guilty of raping her
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• United States
19 May 11
Okay the whole no means no applies. Also my thoughts is that self control is a factor. I understand while the moment is all hot and heated but exactly when does he understand that even if she said no in the middle it gave him a pass to continue. Actually it works both ways too, if you play with fire you will burn. So both have some responsibility, but the bottom line is that it is not a life threatening situation, so if she or he says no one has to STOP. Now if we are dealing with a pro who later has remorse it is quite unfortunate, maybe perhaps not slipping under the covers with just about anyone is perhaps the wisests idea. But we are not talking about brains here are we? lol