So What's More Humane?

Hi debra, Is it the chickens and other animals that are packed so tight or their flesh? If this is flesh is it really possible to inject hormone to the flesh and helping the meat weight more? And I just could not make out its link with deformity and killing them in the woods. Wood you kindly elaborate?

I would rather kill my own, but would probably shoot the woods up and miss. WE do have a store here that sells non antibotiic, free run meat, although it is hard to buy wild meat here. And our Superstore does have meat that is raised free run, but not that much. Also here you have to have a license, and am not that strong to use a bow. Well maybe Ican throw a rock at those darn pigeons or rabbits that eat all the vegetables here.

What's the definition of humane? What is the most convenient for us on any given day? There is nothing humane about killing anything if you are going to be PC. But the facts are, as the world population continue to grow at a rate of 100 million per year, we are building cities on farm land, while needing more food to feed the extra 100 million. So when we run out of land, we make the animals suffer for our convenience. We are not human. We are stupid and greedy. Luckily we have not yet reached that stage in Australia. I live on a 4400 acres farm with 7000 sheep and 500 cattles. And they have more than enough room to run around. It is more a question to have the land to produce enough grass than it is to produce the space. They eat a huge amount of grass and need to be move from pasture to pasture constantly. I was watching a documentary on the Australian dingo last week and it made me mad as hell. They have established that they were only 160 pure breed dingos left in Australia. And they are on an island. Fraser Island in Queensland. The other dingos Australia wide have mixed with wild dogs. Anyway, these days, 400.000 tourists visit Fraser Island each year. And in 2001, because the dingos were getting too close to the tourists... or more likely... the tourists were getting too close to the dingos... The Queensland government decided to shoot 40 of those dingos. So we only got 120 left now. That's how humane our society is. Any animal which get in our way gets shoot. Kangaroos are a nuisance. They cause damages to fences. Extensive damage to cars when they run into them at night. And they eat the grass of the sheep and cattles. So we have a professional shooter on the farm. He goes out at night and kill between 20 and 30 kangaroos each night. He store them in a refrigerated container, and when it is full, a truck comes to pick them up and take them to Sydney for the meat to be sold in supermarket and restaurants. It is fashionable today to eat the emblem of Australia.

I quite agree. factory farming is UTTERLY disgusting. the things that they do so that meat can be cheap. meat shouldn't be cheap. it's a life. life shouldn't be cheap. if you can raise, house, feed, transport, slaughter, butcher, transport, package, transport, and sell a chicken for £3, and STILL turn a profit, you know that something is horribly wrong. I find it really frustrating that some people look at me in horror if I mention that I love game. wild animals living natural lives until one day, a well aimed bullet ends it without them knowing any different. and they say it's cruel. while tucking into their KFC bargain bucket.

I eat a vegan diet for ethical and health reasons. I was born a meat eater due to my family. I became vegetarian at 4 years old. I don't agree with factory farming and think it is cruel. If someone wants to eat meat he or she should buy from a freedom farm. There are free range chickens and they give free range eggs. These are worth buying and battery chicken eggs should be avoided. I wear shoes made from lorica. I go as cruelty free as I possibly can.

Oh the natural way is of course the more humane, because there is no way you'd get some people to become vegetarians, that would actually be the best. But when it comes down to it, the "farming" of animals, (farming as in the horrible closed caged way) is awful, it stresses the animal and is cruel and makes the meat not as good. I have had meat both from the store (that more than likely came from a meat farm) and from a friends own stock where the animals were allowed to roam around on the land and I can tell you now, that was the best meat I have ever eaten..