So What's More Humane?

@debrakcarey (19924)
United States
May 21, 2011 11:12pm CST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=347sVbjSLXM&feature=related Eating meat that's been raised in a megafarm where the cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys never see the light of day and are packed in so tight they can hardly turn around. Where because they are packed so tight they must be pumped full of antibiotics to keep them from getting diseases. Where hormones are pumped into them to make them grow so fast they become deformed, where they are killed slow and painfully hanging upside down; or going out into the woods and shooting them clean and saying a prayer of thanks to Creator God for their lives that will keep YOUR life going?
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@krajibg (11936)
• Guwahati, India
22 May 11
Hi debra, Is it the chickens and other animals that are packed so tight or their flesh? If this is flesh is it really possible to inject hormone to the flesh and helping the meat weight more? And I just could not make out its link with deformity and killing them in the woods. Wood you kindly elaborate?
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
22 May 11
They are packed into cages and pens so tight that they cannot move around. It is a way to keep the meat tender (lack of movement) and also reduces the size of facilities they're kept in. Saving the growers money by keeping cost overhead down. They are given growth hormones that make them grow so fast that they develope deformities. I've seen chicken legs that were HUGE but deformed in pkgs. of chicken parts. Hunting wild game is the reference to the woods. I hope I've helped.
@krajibg (11936)
• Guwahati, India
23 May 11
Yeah, got it now. Thank you. Know, people are not posting good and enticing posts these days. Sometime your posts are America centered or something like that which I hardly find clue to enter into.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
23 May 11
I am trying to post more that would appeal to those who are not living in America. But its difficult, so much is going on here. I'm glad you responded to this discussion, food is something we ALL have in common! What is the diet like in your country Krajibg?
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
22 May 11
I would rather kill my own, but would probably shoot the woods up and miss. WE do have a store here that sells non antibotiic, free run meat, although it is hard to buy wild meat here. And our Superstore does have meat that is raised free run, but not that much. Also here you have to have a license, and am not that strong to use a bow. Well maybe Ican throw a rock at those darn pigeons or rabbits that eat all the vegetables here.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
23 May 11
I think it has something to do with people getting consumption or what they called Tb years ago. I still think with the precautions and the sanitation now, that that is no longer a problem. Why those rules even prevent elk farming here in Canada. If one elk gets sick, you have to kill the whole herd. And as for organic meat, and vegetables, I can only get Angus beef in steaks for the organic meat and that means I have to get a meat grinder to make it into hamburger. And we only have certain veggies as organic.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
24 May 11
Like you said, there's shots and sterile conditions in dairies now. Dairy cattle have to have periodic checkups to operate a dairy too.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
31 May 11
The last time we went to British Columbia, the dairy farms were out in the country and they were not stuck in a barn. But the farmers had to take the milk to get it pasturized, which was a shame.
@carmelanirel (20979)
• United States
22 May 11
Oh the natural way is of course the more humane, because there is no way you'd get some people to become vegetarians, that would actually be the best. But when it comes down to it, the "farming" of animals, (farming as in the horrible closed caged way) is awful, it stresses the animal and is cruel and makes the meat not as good. I have had meat both from the store (that more than likely came from a meat farm) and from a friends own stock where the animals were allowed to roam around on the land and I can tell you now, that was the best meat I have ever eaten..
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
22 May 11
It'a better tasting and better for you. We have the ability to raise our meat humanely. It's simply not true that we have to do it that way to feed ALL the people. It's our system that is broken. Broken by greed, like everything else in this world.
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• United States
22 May 11
Yep, you got it, it all comes down to the money and how much meat farmers can produce in a short amount of time. Anther problem, which I have slowly gotten my husband to realize, is we don't need meat every single day..We can actually have quite a few meals without meat and they are tasty and filling..
@maximax8 (28559)
• United Kingdom
22 May 11
I eat a vegan diet for ethical and health reasons. I was born a meat eater due to my family. I became vegetarian at 4 years old. I don't agree with factory farming and think it is cruel. If someone wants to eat meat he or she should buy from a freedom farm. There are free range chickens and they give free range eggs. These are worth buying and battery chicken eggs should be avoided. I wear shoes made from lorica. I go as cruelty free as I possibly can.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
22 May 11
I admire your stand. I choose to eat meat. In some cultures the ratio of meat to plant based foods is much lower in each meal. I advocate for the Mediterranian diet. Meat is more of a 'side dish' and flavoring to the plant based foods.
@Galena (9123)
22 May 11
I quite agree with that. people expect to eat far too much meat. they want it to be the centrepiece of every meal. only a few generations back, people would have their Sunday roast meat, and then the leftovers would be part of other meals. and that was it. we have drastically reduced the amount of meat we eat, and when we do buy meat it's free range or game. I love meat. but I also love cheese. I don't have cheese with every meal.
@Galena (9123)
22 May 11
I quite agree. factory farming is UTTERLY disgusting. the things that they do so that meat can be cheap. meat shouldn't be cheap. it's a life. life shouldn't be cheap. if you can raise, house, feed, transport, slaughter, butcher, transport, package, transport, and sell a chicken for £3, and STILL turn a profit, you know that something is horribly wrong. I find it really frustrating that some people look at me in horror if I mention that I love game. wild animals living natural lives until one day, a well aimed bullet ends it without them knowing any different. and they say it's cruel. while tucking into their KFC bargain bucket.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
22 May 11
We're paying the price health wise. Grass fed animal's meat has a higher concentration of healthy fats, megafarm raised meat puts triglycerides and cholesterol through the roof.
@Aussies2007 (5339)
• Australia
22 May 11
What's the definition of humane? What is the most convenient for us on any given day? There is nothing humane about killing anything if you are going to be PC. But the facts are, as the world population continue to grow at a rate of 100 million per year, we are building cities on farm land, while needing more food to feed the extra 100 million. So when we run out of land, we make the animals suffer for our convenience. We are not human. We are stupid and greedy. Luckily we have not yet reached that stage in Australia. I live on a 4400 acres farm with 7000 sheep and 500 cattles. And they have more than enough room to run around. It is more a question to have the land to produce enough grass than it is to produce the space. They eat a huge amount of grass and need to be move from pasture to pasture constantly. I was watching a documentary on the Australian dingo last week and it made me mad as hell. They have established that they were only 160 pure breed dingos left in Australia. And they are on an island. Fraser Island in Queensland. The other dingos Australia wide have mixed with wild dogs. Anyway, these days, 400.000 tourists visit Fraser Island each year. And in 2001, because the dingos were getting too close to the tourists... or more likely... the tourists were getting too close to the dingos... The Queensland government decided to shoot 40 of those dingos. So we only got 120 left now. That's how humane our society is. Any animal which get in our way gets shoot. Kangaroos are a nuisance. They cause damages to fences. Extensive damage to cars when they run into them at night. And they eat the grass of the sheep and cattles. So we have a professional shooter on the farm. He goes out at night and kill between 20 and 30 kangaroos each night. He store them in a refrigerated container, and when it is full, a truck comes to pick them up and take them to Sydney for the meat to be sold in supermarket and restaurants. It is fashionable today to eat the emblem of Australia.