Do you belong to the Club God loves????

@bird123 (10518)
United States
June 25, 2011 12:00am CST
Religion tells you how much God loves you. They say God's love is unconditional, but don't they put conditions on it?? They say you must believe to be saved by God. You must do God's will according to their holy book. If you don't do these things, you are destined for hell. Now, how can you use love and sending someone to hell in the same words?? They justify it by saying people send themselves to hell. Could the creation of hell really be an act of love?? I think not!! Do you belong to the club that God loves?? Religion does not really understand God. Religion doesn't have a clue what Unconditional Love is really all about. We all belong to the Club that God loves. God's love is Unconditional. You don't have to do Anything at all. In time, God will teach you all the secrets of the universe. You will be it all and do it all through your free choice. You will learn to love unconditionally just like God. The system requires no more than you to be who you must. It's a part of the plan. It's much easier than trying to live up to all the standards of religion and others. You are more special than you realize. You are a Child of God. So everyone out there, tell me what you think.
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@bestboy19 (5482)
• United States
26 Jun 11
If we are required to be who we must be and it's part of the plan, where does free will figure into it? According to science, man as we know him has been on the earth for about 100 thousand years. From the beginning of recorded history, man has not loved his fellow man. Exactly when is God going to teach us to love unconditionally? Or, maybe He has already in that Holy Book you reject.
@bird123 (10518)
• United States
26 Jun 11
Free will is being who you must rather than trying to be what others choose for you. God works your lessons around your free choices. Can you really say no one on Earth loves their fellow man??? I would say more love their fellow man than do not. Perhaps your view is focused only on those who hate and fight for control. You ask when is God going to teach us to love unconditionally??? It's happening every moment even as we speak. Everything you do in life will return to you in time. Can you see the genius in that. It will teach you everything through your free choices.
@bestboy19 (5482)
• United States
27 Jun 11
Your god's plan is for us to live our lives over and over until we are what he wants us to be; and if our free will doesn't want to do as your god pleases, we must continue being punished (everything we do in life will return to us in time) through all eternity until we please him. So, we can have free will and continue to be punished, or we can do his will and not be punished; but that's an oxymoron, because he is counting on us to make bad choices, so his will for us is to sin and therefore receive punishment. I don't see genius in anything you say your god is trying to teach. I see no love in your god, unconditional or otherwise. I see cruelty and hatred in him. What is so loving about counting on us to make bad choices in order to suffer the consequences? Your god is playing games with us. He wants us to continue to sin so he can continue to punish us. How can you call that unconditional love when he shows such contempt for us? My God does show love for all of us. He sent His Son to pay the price for our sins (bad choices). All we have to do is accept this gift that God gave us. In loving God, we choose to follow His teachings. It is our choice, not out of fear, but out of love.
@bird123 (10518)
• United States
28 Jun 11
Bestboy19, Can you ever be happy filled with such hate and angry?? Twist and twist!! I realize you do not Understand. I realize you do not want to leave your box of religion. Life is about learning and discovery. There is always more to learn. Perhaps there will come a day when you will want to discover more. Relax, just like God, I want you to be who you must. Walk your own path. I will still love you unconditionally regardless of your actions or words. What will your anger and hate turn you into????Are you Happy??? I think not! THe choice is yours.
@urbandekay (18312)
25 Jun 11
I think you have misunderstood all the best urban
@bird123 (10518)
• United States
25 Jun 11
I'm all ears!!
@urbandekay (18312)
26 Jun 11
Strange, I have many different body parts! Will come back later all the best urban
@Dominique25 (9475)
• United States
10 Jul 11
I agree with you that hell and unconditional love do not fit in the same sentence. Many people think that the word hell in the bible refers to fire torment but it doesn't. Research shows that the orginal hebrew and greek word refers to the common grave of mankind. God does love us and he wants the best for us. He has sacrificed a lot in showing it and when you love someone a person you do the things that they like not those that they don't like.
@bird123 (10518)
• United States
10 Jul 11
I do not agree. If you really love someone, you do what is the very best for them rather than just giving them what they want. If you do something that they like even though you know it will harm them, you only care about pleasing them. That's not love. Discover the reason you want to please them and you will discover what you really have.
@dark_joev (3043)
• United States
26 Jun 11
Well I guess that would depend on your religion. As well a Nichiren Buddhist we don't believe in a all powerful god but more the cycle of life which is a never ending cycle kinda like the Universe it is always changing and going through Cycles. Also Hell in Nichiren Buddhism is a "world" as it is often viewed which there are ten the lowest world would be Hell. Where you are in a state of misery and pain to put it in the most simple terms these are view points so if you see the world as being this terrible place then all you will see is what you are looking for where if you see the world as being a good loving caring place you will find that and also see that. Also in buddhism their isn't the same view on good and evil so can't really go into that as for Unconditional Love that is something that grows with people and their are people that could turn their backs on me and I would still love them. Unconditional Love would be image of parents still loving their Child after their Child did something that went against the parents moral guidance. But they would still love them. This did seem a little bit aimed at the Christian/Jewish/Islam faiths more than at the Eastern Based Religions (Hindu/Buddhism/Shintoism and the others.
@bird123 (10518)
• United States
28 Jun 11
Perhaps my real aim is to give a clearer view of God. You say you see God as just a cycle of life. If God exists, then God can be found. Perhaps it's time for a search. Sometimes people who search find what they search for. I see you do see part of God's system. If all religions would come together and compare notes, their view would become clearer.
@barehugs (8986)
• Canada
25 Jun 11
AS long as I pay my dues to the Church, God will love me! God loves everyone, but the more money you tithe the more He loves you. If you do bad things you don't have to worry because you can buy God's love by giving money to the Church. If you sin big, then give big Bucks. Religion has all the answers! You can be saved via God's love, and Money, Money, Money!
@bird123 (10518)
• United States
26 Jun 11
It is clear that religion does not understand God. When I think of all the money and greed tied to religion, it is indeed sad. There are a million lessons to learn around religion. None of them about God. Everyone should keep their eyes wide open and question everything. Education is everywhere. Do not ignore it. Thanks for your comments barehugs.
@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
25 Jun 11
Hi bird, Thank you for this post as there is far too much negativity here, especially when it comes to religion. The Bible has been revised and changed so much over the years that we must search very hard to find the truth. Sadly many people still claim to take it literally and refer to it as the inspired word of God. We are all special just as you say and those who think otherwise have made God in the image of man. Blessings.
@bird123 (10518)
• United States
25 Jun 11
Everybody wants to rule the world. That is mankind's greatest problem. It does come out in most all writings of mankind. Just as you say. They have God in the image of mankind. It never hurts to allow others to see the real view of God from time to time. It's a view, deep down, they already know for themselves.
@_sketch_ (5709)
• United States
25 Jun 11
I agree. Love is always unconditional. People spend so much time judging others and comparing themselves to others. All that can do is create fear and malice in our hearts. It's easy to behave when you haven't been put in harsh situations and it's even easier to say that we would make the right decisions if put in certain situations. Even if we have been put in a similar situation, it can never be the exact same situation, so we can never truly know. What I am trying to say is that instead of judging, we should love. If we want to change the world for the better, we cannot do it with force, but with love and acceptance. Bad decisions are made out of fear. Hate comes from fear and hate leads to fear. Love is the way. Namaste.
@bird123 (10518)
• United States
25 Jun 11
OK!OK! Unconditional Love is the only way. In time we will all learn this. Wouldn't be grand if we could skip all those hard lessons before we realize Unconditional Love is the only way?? I guess it wouldn't be the same. Thanks _sketch_
• India
2 Jun 12
I do not belong to ny club.