Vaccination: Do you think it protects your child completely from diseases?

@Sreekala (19205)
India
July 25, 2011 4:56am CST
Dear friends, Today I don’t have a pleasant mood and having fever too (101 F) but still I am in office as I want to finish some urgent works. However, that is not the topic here. My 4 year old son is detected typhoid on last Friday (22 July). He was suffering fever from last Monday, 18th July (for the same reason I was not active here). Upon consultation, doctor said it is viral fever and prescribed medicine for the same. But his fever increased day by day and suffered constantly like 104F etc. So the third day we consulted the doctor again and doctor doubts typhoid and asked a test for it. This particular doctor had given the vaccine to him for typhoid at the age of two (on hearing his symptoms everybody told me the same but I told them he is vaccinated for the typhoid). Now he is on medication and at home. Today my hubby has taken a leave for taking care of him as I wanted to attend my office for some emergency work. From tomorrow onwards I will be on leave again till he becomes completely fine. Here my question is why we want to spend money on vaccination if it does not work for them. I really felt bad and sad on his condition, even though I took precautions for him, but failed to protect him. Upon talking with other parents, many shared the same experience (typhoid attacked their kids after vaccination). I don’t know how he got this. Please share your views on this thread. Do you also think that the vaccination never protects completely? Do you have any similar experience? How can I ensure him a speedy recovery? Please share if you have any tips. (for the first time I am facing this typhoid so I don’t have any clues). Note: I won’t be able to give a quick reply to you but definitely I can read your views at home, my replies will be given once I become tension free. I think now I should spend my time to take care of him completely. I need your prayers and blessings. July 25, 2011.
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• Pamplona, Spain
26 Aug 11
Hiya sreekala, I was reading about the plight of your little Boy and I see he is getting much better now byt the posts I have been reading. Hope you are feeling much better too as well as when Mother and Baby are ill it can be very hard time for you and your Boy too. I don´t know about these Vaccines either they have their good side but I don´t think that they are 100 per cent either. I had Whooping Cough when I was small and had had a Vaccine against it but still got it badly as well so it might be that the Vaccine just did not work as all the others did. Anyway so glad you are both well now and that it stays that way. Have a great Weekend then all of your.xxx
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hi angel, It has been bad time for me and I think still going on dear. Sometimes I felt I am getting sick again. Thank you so much for your care.
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• Pamplona, Spain
20 Sep 11
Hiya Sreekala, Oh dear that does not sound too good so if it is still plagueing you that feeling ill on and off. Is your little Boy much better then with the Homeopathic Medicine Cure? Have you taken it too? Maybe you have had Influenza? That can give some long lasting effects too or a nasty bout of the Flu? Get better soon and hope it works for you as well.xxx Take care now both of you.xxx
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
24 Sep 11
Hi angel, he is feeling better now and completing the medicine. Doctor suggested to test again after 6 weeks to make sure that there won't be any threats. I am also taking the medicine from the same doctor, I too feel better. Now it is my hubby’s turn, he is suffering from viral fever for the last 5 days.
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@anil02 (2886)
• India
26 Jul 11
Hello It is very sad that your son have typhoid after vaccination. It is not possible that vaccination protect 100%. In some cases vaccination may be failed. But for it d we can not avoid vaccination. It is not wastage of time or money. I wise speedy recovery of you son. Take care.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hello anil, Experience is the great teacher for us. Now I learnt that, vaccination never give full protection, from my own experience. Thank you so much for your good wishes.
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@anil02 (2886)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hello Sree you are right. Now how is your son. I took one ayurvedic medicine before 12 years. After it I have not problem of malaria, viral and typhoid. If you are interested I will tell you.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
29 Sep 11
He is alright now. In between he again fallen with viral fever and that time his blood tested again and the result shows the typhoid in blood. His doctor told us that if he gets fever again then we have to provide him medicine for typhoid that also for 14 days again. Fortunately no fever comes back but I bothered about his blood test result and I consulted a homeopathic doctor and given medicine to him. Now he completed that course of medicine too. Doctor told us that test again after 6 weeks for typhoid. I am interested to know about the ayurvedic medicine.
• India
25 Jul 11
Hi Kala, So sorry to hear about your son…we mothers feel so helpless as it is when the kids fall sick and if we have to attend office, its really tough Now to the topic…my feelings towards vaccination is somewhat mixed. Now when I was a baby, I too had my vaccines against polio, TB, diphtheria (I don’t know all of them) and it was a sort of cheap package which was given to all babies in the hospital itself against some common ailments. Of late however, I find many MNC pharmaceutical companies promoting specialized vaccines for almost anything and everything and charging a small fortune for it. Doctors too will scare you into believing that if you don’t vaccinate your child, then you are running the risk of him contacting almost every ailment known to mankind. So what I feel is that vaccination these days has become somewhat of an industry mainly to promote the financial needs of doctors and pharma companies. Its not really the same as going to any govt hospital and getting your child vaccinated at minimum expense (or even free), which everybody can do. What is happening with vaccination is that these days its become another status symbol…the more hi-class paediatrician you take you child to and the more you spend on the vaccines, seems to be a parameter of your spending capacity. I come across quite a few mothers who openly brag about how well protected their child is, without realizing that maybe the doctor has taken them for a ride (as in your case). I believe in old is gold adage…whatever vaccines were prescribed by the good doctors of yesteryears is enough for us, more than that and we are just helping the doctor and pharma companies to get rich while compromising with the natural immunity of our children. About typhoid…sorry, cant give you any tips coz I’ve never faced this till now. But I do believe that simple medicines with a lot of care should be enough to make him well very soon (and to bring our Kala back to us)
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
16 Aug 11
Hi Sudipta, I am back today, and my son is alright now. I too attacked with the same fever and I am yet to recover completely. Mine got serious as I was busy on taking care of my son neglected my problems initially. I agree the doctors are making the same like a business and asking all types of vaccination but we have provided them only with common/general vaccinations. Typhoid will cure fast, if the patient gets complete bed rest and plenty of water intake, the virus will go out through the water only. The danger is it may relapse if it is not treated properly so we have to be taken much care. My son’s doctor told us that, if he drinks more water his chances of recovery is also fast, so provide him water in any form, like juice, milk, liquid food etc. Thank you so much for the well wishes Sudipta.
• India
17 Aug 11
So glad that you are back and all is well. I hope you are strong enough coz I’ve heard that typhoid saps your strength and the weakness sets in. we women tend to ignore our health but you know very well how difficult it is for the family if the mother is not well enough. Take care and hugs to you
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
17 Aug 11
Sudipta, I was weak, very weak, and anybody hear my voice on phone, quickly getting the hint something is wrong with me. My BP is low 90/70 finally my doctor advised to get glucose through IV and I got one bottle on last Saturday and One more on Yesterday night, now I feel much better dear. What you heard is very true, it saps all my energy and I am having boiled foods only, there is a strict ‘no’ for oil. I have to fight dear else who will take care of my two kids. I could not take complete bed rest that is the reason I took this much time to recover. I had to sit with my son for his studies as his unit test was going on... and you know after consuming two weeks of antibiotics, I did a blood test and in the test result, typhoid was strong like in the initial stage. My younger one troubled me much as he don’t know much about my problem, if I am in bed, he comes near to me and asked, is it the time for sleep, no, you can’t sleep now, get up and I want to listen stories…. Anyway it was a worst phase in my life and I hope it is over…. What I learnt is… never ever neglect your health, it is the base of your family’s health.. if you are alright everything is alright. Thank you so much dear
@myfb2009 (8304)
• Malaysia
13 Sep 11
Hi Sreekala, since this discussion is made two months ago, i think your son should be fine by now, right... From my own experienced, i think vaccination unable to give a 100% protection to our children. We should always make sure that our children don't eat things that they hold by their dirty hands. Children tends to loves eating with their hands that are dirty, due to playing on the floor without realizing it. Try feed him more fresh fruit juice and let him drink plenty of plain water. Always make sure that all the food are thoroughly cooked and drink are thoroughly boiled before consumed them, to avoid getting typhoid in the future...Hope to hear news from you about your son...
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hi myfb, Time is running really fast and my topic is two months old now. Even now I am not recovered completely. I took all the precautions at home. He doesn't have the habit of eating with dirty hands; he is very particular on cleaning and will eat only once he cleaned his hands with dettol hand washing lotion. I am not sure how he does at school but at home he is taking care much on all these things. On water, we are always using boiled water to drink but I agree we do get contaminated water from the water supply. There also I take precautions as much as I can do. Anyway it is my bad fate, what else I can say. Thank you so much for your views.
@myfb2009 (8304)
• Malaysia
29 Sep 11
It is good that you take strict precautions to ensure your son is doing fine. Happy that now he is recovered from this illness. Do take good care always, Sreekala.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
29 Sep 11
Yes dear, now I am bit scared too, after the long term illness
@pbbbsra (1214)
• Philippines
25 Jul 11
I think that vaccinations is not a hundred percent guarantee, I was also vaccinated with all the vaccines there is, for flu for measles, but I had all those too. Vaccines are only a way to prevent, you should also take vitamins with it i guess and visit a physician regularly. i hope your son get well soon
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
25 Jul 11
Hi pbbbsra, That is what the doctor told us when asking the same to him. It is given only 60% guarantee, but he didn’t told me the same on vaccination. I think I have to face all these. We are consulting the doctor on alternative days. Thank you so much for your suggestions.
• Philippines
25 Jul 11
Yes,being vaccinated is not a full guarantee that you are protected.Some vaccines will only give you 6 months immunity,some 1 year and some will give you lifetime immunity if you got a booster dose.It is so important that you have to complete all the doses required.Even if you strictly the doses,there are still some factors that renders the vaccination useless,maybe the vaccines are not kept in the right temperature to retain their potency,wrong administration technique, or failure of our immune system to produce antibodies against those diseases.Some vaccinations like Flu and Meningococcal vaccines are strain specific.Oftentimes, a particular vaccine should be only use for a specific year because new strains may evolve the following which renders those vaccines ineffective.Vaccines just reduce the risk of getting serious diseases for high risk individuals like children,but not completely left them disease-free.Though vaccines may not be effective all the time,it is still important to be vaccinated to lesser our risk of those deadly diseases that may have serious complications.
@Sreekala (19205)
• India
16 Aug 11
Hello Kareema, My son is 4 years old and he got the vaccination at the age of 2. I heard it from many people now, the vaccination works only for two or three years, it means, the vaccination worked on my son for two years. Now he is alright and doctor asked to give vaccine for him in next month again. Thank you so much for giving me more insight on this subject, it really helped me in many ways.
@jennyze (7048)
• Indonesia
26 Jul 11
Here in Indonesia, you need to take the same vaccination in several stages, sometimes until 4x depend on the need to get rid of the illness. But you are correct there is no guarantee that people will not get contacted with the same disease even when they got vaccinated. Some doctors would say that it may be caused the improperly given vaccination... they would always have reasons .... Sometimes I think they are only concern with selling the medicines than selling their skills.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
8 Sep 11
Hello Jenny, His doctor said it; there is no 100% guarantee. It may be my bad luck, here we are not getting good water always, that is main scare and that is the only reason we took all precautions like giving every vaccination. It is true dear, doctors are more on business than service.
@jennyze (7048)
• Indonesia
9 Sep 11
Yeah, so if you have a doctor friend, hold on to him or her cause he/she would give you the true advice.
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@shskumbla (3341)
• India
8 Sep 11
Let your son recover from his illness
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hi Shskumbla, Thank you so much for your good wishes.
@SHAMRACK (8384)
• India
5 Sep 11
Dear friend, It is really sad to know about this situations. I do have seen people in my nearby affected this fever. They had become so tired. Moreover as a mother with kids to look after if affected a small fever would be itself a mess in the house. Regarding vaccination I feel there are lots of duplicate medicines coming up. Those reliable medicine may be got. But it may give a psychological confidence for that person. But may be that vaccine could safeguard from being further worse. Anyhow at times if these kinds of ineffective vaccinations are taken it could give more mess to the effected patients. I wish soon you and yours family members will recover from this and also my prayers and blessing is going on....
@Sreekala (19205)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hello Sham, I think you can guess the situation when the mother is sick how it will affect at home. If the mother is sick it will affect the whole members at home. Since I am living away from the native, nobody around to support me or take care of my kids except my hubby and he is busy with his work too. I can't stay I am alright still, there is bad symptoms very often though I completed the 21 days of medicine. Let me see what is store for me next. Thank you so much for your caring words.
@pickwick (858)
• India
14 Aug 11
Hi sreekala , I hope your son is better now.Blessings.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hi pickwick, I am so glad to see you again here. How do you spend your time now. Hope your son is doing better now. My son, he is alright now, but having homeopathic medicine for clearing the virus from blood completely. Thank you so much.
@KrauseHome (34153)
• United States
27 Jul 11
Personally I think the Best thing a person can do is to find out what is really bothering your son, and take care of it, and if you are running a fever of 101 yourself that is not good. You should be in bed taking care of yourself as well, and sounds like there might be a case of a really bad Flu or virus in your household that is attacking more than your son. I would be going back to the doctor getting some answers and having him run some tests even on yourself to get down to the bottom of this and what medications can work for this. Not every vaccine always works on everyone all the time. Sometimes it just weakens the amune system for something else.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hi Tina, You are right on your assessment here and both of us got typhoid. Now I am back to office, still I feel weakness and symptoms of fever often. I know the typhoid won't go easily from the blood once it can attacked us. Thank you so much for your response and care.
@Kalyni2011 (3503)
• India
27 Jul 11
Sree beti I am sorry to hear this, i will pray for your son and break a coconut in temple, once he is ok, well i don't think the vaccines work well, there may be so many reasons, like old, expired stock I had suffered from typhoid 5 years ago, in spite of food restrictions, it came back and i had to take the course of medicines again, it made me too weak and all my hair were lost, i became almost bald.. Take care of him, consult the best doctor, where are you now, guess it is Delhi!!! Thanks for telling us.. kalyani
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hi Ma, You are so kind and considerate for me, now he is alright but having homeopathy medicine as the tests shows that he is not completely recovered from the typhoid even he took 21 days of antibiotics. Now his problem is, there is pigmentation mark in his ears and some parts of the body, doctor said that it is an after effect of typhoid and will vanish later. I hope for the best for him now. Than you so much.
@CTHanum (8254)
• Malaysia
26 Jul 11
Vaccination is just a temporary way of prevention. It will not totally give a hundred percent guarantees that they will not get the diseases. Hope he will turn alright and recover soon. Take care both of you.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
20 Sep 11
Hi CTHanum, True, for typhoid especially, I heard, the typhoid vaccination works for only two-three years. Thank you so much.
@minnie15 (146)
• United States
26 Jul 11
I think that vaccinations are preventative care. They may still get the illness, but to a lesser extent then it would have been. I think the point of vaccinations is to have a little exposure to the illness so your body has a chance to build up the antibodies against it. I think it also depends on the child. Vaccinations are never 100% but they may help over time.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
8 Sep 11
Hello Minnie, May be you are right. I think it depends on the child’s immunity. Now there is no point of blaming anybody, I have to face it. Thank you so much for your reply.
@ebuscat (5949)
• Philippines
26 Jul 11
For me not because the virus is not friendly today they want you to be heart just drink moringga capsule because it has 300 diseases will be cured and Vitamin C sodium ascorbate.
@Sreekala (19205)
• India
8 Sep 11
Hi ebuscat, Thank you so much for your suggestions.
@salonga (28078)
• Philippines
26 Jul 11
Typhoid Fever! It is not just an ordinary sickness so you made the right decision to watch closely. An antibiotic will surely heal him in time. Just keep watching him and follow the doctor's prescription. I really don't know why it happened to him despite the vaccination. I don't know if this is the same thing as smallpox vaccination. Despite vaccination, still the child will get smallpox some time in his life but the good thing is it will not be very severe. I hope this is the same thing with TF vaccination. Nevertheless it gives me the lesson not to trust in the idea that vaccination can really give the child a hundred assurance of being free from the disease. Of course I will also subject the child to vaccination but I will stay cautious all the time. For your son, surely I have already prayed. I'm sure he will be fine. With you by his side, I'm sure he will get well very soon.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
8 Sep 11
Hi salonga, Thank you so much for your prayers dear. He is very active now and according to his doctor there is nothing to worry, but his blood test shows positive for typhoid. In addition he is getting some pigmentation marks in his ears and some parts of his body. His ear's mark is visible, as he fair in complexion. Doctor said some may get after effect of typhoid the marks may be like that and may disappeared after a while. Since he is active there is nothing to worry and I trust his doctor.
• United States
26 Jul 11
They say vaccines do more harm then good. Just look at what the Swine flu vaccine did to those folks who got it during the 2009 Swine Flu scare. You should also look at how the MMR vaccines are making more kids Autistic in the US and Europe. Even if you get the regular flu vaccine, there's a good chance you'll get the flu or something worse. I'm not a mother, but I'd think that maybe you try to give your kids medicinal freeze pops. In the US, they sell them in our Dollar General store. Try to see if you can get some medical freeze pops. They say they can reduce fever, vomiting and other stuff that are happening to your child. You can always place cold, wet rags on your son's forehead to keep him cool. This can also help reduce fever.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
8 Sep 11
Hello angel, You mean the vaccine for MMR making the child Autistic, my goodness, it is really scary. May be the vaccines works differently on kids, it does not work on my son probably. Now he is active but still his blood test shows typhoid in it. I am taking care of his diet now. I hope he will recover completely very soon. Thank you so much for your input.
@Celanith (2334)
• United States
25 Jul 11
No vaccinations do not protect your child completely from diseases. They are mostly to get money out of people and while some work for awhile many do not or cause other problems. As I child myself I got all the vaccinations. Measles, mumps, rubella, etc. But I still got all those illnesses anyway not once but three times each. My mom was upset asking why. The doctors said I do not build immunity to them like some do. So I got them anyway. Then I had shots for my children and they got the illness of mumps within 3 months after the vaccines. They did not work one son had mumps and measles at the same time. The health department did not believe this and had me take him in and they could not believe what their eyes and tests proved true. They said it is rare but my youngest son did not build immunities either and he has measles more than once since and so have I. So they do not completely protect. In the case of my older sons they said as an excuse there was a super virus that had over ridden the vaccine of mumps. Right. I have not got vaccines since for myself and nor has my husband. I try and avoid people who are sick and eat healthy and drink lots of water and use herbs and natural things. I also know 3 children who had vaccines all boys who ended up with Autism. The government says that vaccines do not cause this but they are paying out millions of dollars for lawsuits that children got autism that showed no signs of it it until after the vaccine and it is traced right to the vaccine but they lie to the public saying how rare it is. It is not rare and autism is increasing in children and the governments do know it causes autism and asbergers disease. They lie.
@Sreekala (19205)
• India
8 Sep 11
Hi Celanith, My goodness you suffered a lot and I am sad to know about your kids. I know how painful when our kids fallen sick. My son is active now but his blood test showing typhoid still. Some says it will show for long time but the doctor said it does not like that. Doctor asked us for giving vaccination in next month again, now I have not taken any decision on the same. He is little premature child so his immunity is also weak, he faces problems once he starts his school. I think I have to care him a lot. Thank you so much for your views.
@Graceekwenx (3163)
• Philippines
25 Jul 11
Sreekala. No.. Vaccination does not completely protect kids from diseases. It would also involve factors like sanitation, stress and sometimes even genes.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
8 Sep 11
Hello Grace, Now I am accepting the truth.
@dpk262006 (55919)
• Delhi, India
25 Jul 11
Hi Sree! I am sorry to hear all about your own condition and little one suffering from typhoid. Few days ago same thing happened with my brother-in-law's daughter who is around 5-6 years old. She too was given vaccination and after a month or so she suffered typhoid. She was treated with medicines and became alright after few days. I think environment has become so deteriorated that we (including children) tend to catch diseases even when we take all kinds of precautions.
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
8 Sep 11
Hi deepak, I think the contaminated water we received for few days created problems for us. I took as much precautions but nothing seems worked. Thanks for the response Deepak.
@paula27661 (15900)
• Australia
25 Jul 11
I am sorry your son is so ill at the moment; he will certainly be in my prayers. I have heard of several cases when kids have caught illnesses that they were supposedly immunised against and my guess is that vaccines are not one hundred per cent fool proof. I hope your boy has a speedy recovery; the poor little thing...
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@Sreekala (19205)
• India
17 Aug 11
Hi Paula, Thank you so much for your prayers, my son is alright now and enjoying his school.