Electricity in the Philipines is the most expensive in Asia

@louievill (19299)
Philippines
August 8, 2011 11:16am CST
That's right folks, we now hold the infamous record of having the most expensive electricity in Asia, even more expensive than our richer neighbors like Singapore and Japan http://gmaseven.blogspot.com/2011/07/philippine-electricity-cost-is-most.html , oh this is bad cause it would scare of investors or those who want to put up a plant or business in our country, wonder why? Is it possible that power is being monopolized and our president can't do a thing because the same company helped in his campaign (just a thought), why so expensive? when the service is not really that good? What's your opinion, electricity or power takes up so much of our income instead of being saved for our family
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16 responses
9 Aug 11
Nuclear Power Plants are the cheapest source of electricity, which the Phil have but did not use. Geothermal Power Plants have very high maintenance cost while Hydro Power Plants are very expensive to build as it covers villages with water. Solar and wind energy is also very expensive, and what's worse is that it does not produce a lot of electricity. Prices in electricity will be difficult to lower down unless a Nuclear power plant gets up and running.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
I agree that a nuclear plant would give of the cheapest electricity but I'm not so sure if our country would be prepared for the risk or if something goes wrong, guess nobody , no matter how advanced the technology would really be ready to cope a hundred percent. Another thing I was thinking about is the security risk, might become a terrorist target or something, I'm not sure if I'm right with what i'm thinking though.
@zerd87 (301)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
We should go for greener electricity. Even though it is expensive it is a long term solution also. It has minimal risk and great investment for the future. If our country will build one nuclear plant maybe it is good if it will be put up in the uninhabited island far away where the perimeter will be secured and maintain.
@enigma13 (372)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
Nuclear power plants are unarguably the cheapest source of electricity however, it is also the riskiest. I am doubtful that our government has the means to maintain such. I can hardly imagine how our government can handle a nuclear disaster. So as for me, I'm not a fan and I'd rather pay a higher cost. zerd87, I totally agree with you. We should go for greener energy sources. Solar panels are really expensive but at least it is a lot safer than nuclear plants...
@Ramsesxlll (1436)
• Finland
9 Aug 11
Electricity (and everything else) is quite expensive here in Finland (as well as other things such as food) even compared to other European countries (the most advanced ones). That would be fine if our pay checks were that much bigger as well, but no! We actually get paid less than what people usually do in "advanced countries of Europe". I guess we Finnish people are destined to be poor for all our lives About that electricity cost: I have no idea about things as complicated as that; conspiracy theory and stuff (I still think all lamps such as in public toilets have hidden cameras). Hey! I got an idea! You will just have to write A LOT more on myLot in order to make huge amounts of money and then use it to pay your electricity bill
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
10 Aug 11
oh no, don't say the Finnish are destined to be poor, you have beautiful and and wonderful people, all of us in my household use a Nokia phone, our countries may be poor now but nothing is permanent, we use to be second richest in Asia now we are down, but rich countries are suffering too all around the world so hope you do not lose hope. Hidden cameras? wow! Good Idea write a lot more in Mylot, but the rising cause of electricity will diminish our profit, remember we consume electricity Mylotting
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• Finland
10 Aug 11
Yay, Nokia! (2 days ago I got my first cellphone that includes unlimited internet - no additional fees, and guess what, the cellphone was a Nokia! Ok... I personally won't stay poor thanks to my "online earnings" , but all the other Finnish people will. Yes, I know... Using a computer - electicity - cost - you lose money - myLot causes poverty
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
Generating electricity here is expensive as our raw materials have to be exported. We still rely heavily on coal which as of the moment the government favors as the most efficient source. I think there is no long term plan to address this problem with power shortage. I hope something will come out of this. The government has not presented any alternative to wean us from traditional sources which are destructive to the environment. They are still depending much on the private sector to make the first move in harnessing clean energy.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
I think everybody should work, the private sector as well as the Government, I think one stumbling block is Government sometimes favors big companies and monopolies because they contribute so much to campaign since we are in a democracy and help they give to new ideas and inventions are at times only superficial.
• Philippines
10 Aug 11
I agree with you on that. There are lots of new innovations out there written in manuals and papers however until now has not been implemented.
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
I guess electronic companies always have a reason or claim on why they should raise the prices of electricity, mostly it's to regain their profits. However, I recently remembered that NAPOCOR once boasted that it can provide cheaper electricity comapred to MERALCO, when the latter was besieged by the public due to its high rates. Guess NAPOCOR too is raising their rates. I always contemplate whenever there are brown outs in our area that we pay for the service in full, that is on the occasion that they provide electricity or not. It is somewhat a losing situation, companies can provide measly service with charge and in this situation, added charge becuase the company isn't profiting. It's such a shame. Electricity, in our time, is indispensable. A lot of what we use everyday does depend on electricity. And no electricity can paralyze operations. I hope companies would, for one day, think of their consumers and evaluate themselves if they were just in their treatment.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
A remember a time not so long ago when napocor and meralco was like finger pointing at each other, " paguntugin kaya natin mga ulo nila" ( why don't we bump their heads together) sorry but I really felt this way when I was watching the program
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
I guess this sentiment is always in the arena of service companies who are also business. They are becoming loose in their service just to make sure that the business stays afloat. They don't think of the customers or subscribers who are the ones that get crushed in the middle. Sometimes, I like to think that all service companies are really looking to their clients' interest, not just their own. I realized that money is crucial to them but everybody needs money...and electricity. Sigh. I think I am with you in butting their heads. They all seem to protect their hides and care for nothing besides that.
@SIMPLYD (81306)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
You are right. Electricity is being monopolized by big companies in their own territories or provinces. Should a number of companies offer electricity too , the rate will definitely decrease. But as it is, we have no choice but to patronize their electricity because there are no other ones who can offer it too. Really sad situation for us Filipinos.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
Yes perhaps another big independent player would help, I've seen small rural power cooperatives once in a while but they just get bought out, while we the consumers continue to pay things like " systems line loss", the electric company losses power from low water level to illegal connections, to copper wire pilferage and the consumers are made to shoulder the loss. Isn't it not their job to protect their system?
@SIMPLYD (81306)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
That's correct, it should have been them who shoulders these losses and protect their system.
@voracious (624)
• Philippines
8 Aug 11
Our power is expensive because we are still relying on petroleum as our source of electricity unlike the other countries are using the most available source like solar, wind, wave and nuclear energy. If our government use another alternative form of energy then our bills will become cheaper.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
I was thinking of that too ( alternative source of energy), and we receive more rainfall and more sunshine and all the strong winds when we are in the province or along the sea shore. Think what we lack is initiative cause technology is already there. Well Bong bong Marcos installed wind turbines in Ilocos , you think the monopoly would be the one to block such initiatives? Who knows
@swirlz (3137)
• Philippines
11 Aug 11
Our electricity is from petroleum? I didn't know that. Back in Zamboanga our electricity comes from the Maria Christina Falls. Hydropower plant stuff... Stuff I couldn't explain in detail. It's an ecological source of electrical energy. I thought that's how it is with the rest of the country. I mean, we're surrounded by water! But the downside is, we have blackout all the time. All the time!!! It even came to a point that some board members of the ZAMCELCO (Zamboanga City Electric Company) we're being replaced.
@topffer (35525)
• France
8 Aug 11
Hello louievill, I think you cannot compare with a country with nuclear power plants like Japan : they produce apparently cheap electricity, but the price will increase soon, as nuclear combustible will disappear during this century. I know that Philippines has invested in some "green" power plants producing electricity with geothermal energy, and it is great. Electricity and gas are increasing everywhere and I think we have to reduce our bill by using material needing less power : using a laptop instead of a desktop, by example. Phone and electricity were state monopolies in my country. When they have been privatized, we had really interesting offers for phone, but not for electricity : family consumers don't interest private electric companies...
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
8 Aug 11
hi friend, nice to see you around again, it's probably so, I mean that nuclear energy would be a thing of the past soon especially as we have seen the real threat it poses on all of us, I'm so glad that you are familiar with our geo-thermal energy,but that's my point, we have geotherium , rivers and streams that could power hydro-electricity but it's still so expensive. We won't be left behind when it comes to wind power, in fact the province of the late dictator Marcos, now ran by he's son runs on wind power and income from our Malampaya plant in the off shore of Palawan was enough to buy us a second hand cutter from the U.S. Coast guard to help defend the area. umm... wonder what the... is wrong
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@topffer (35525)
• France
8 Aug 11
Wind is like sun : they are not very good sources of energies... because you don't have wind and sun 24/24, so you need to stock energy -- and it is very expensive -- or to have other power plants working when there is no wind or sun. I was impressed by your geothermal power plants. Geothermal energy is only used for heating in France, but it is interesting as a possible continuous source of natural energy to produce electricity.
@Neriz69 (1042)
• Philippines
12 Aug 11
I really feel that the government should do something about it fast. They have to have their plans on it's way to catch up with the rising prices of basic commodities. I know I heard in Pnoy's State Of the Nation Address that there are plans of investing on more geothermal plants.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
13 Aug 11
Nice point, we have to act fast before inflation and and rising cost of prices erodes earnings especially those earning the minimum and in some instances less. Dont' believe everything Presidents say in sonas, good luck
@hushi22 (4940)
11 Aug 11
hmmm...Oh my goodness! does that mean i will have to send more money to my family in the Philippines? hope not. hehehe... nah...didn't hear this from my friends. that is ridiculous! More Filipinos will suffer especially knowing that there are not many people who have work there.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
11 Aug 11
hello hushi22, nice to see you again, long time no see, hope your doing fine there with your nursing career in the U.K. Well since you are earning in British pounds I don't think you need to send more, unlike our countrymen who earn in dollars, just tell your folks to save a little when it comes to electric use. Why don't you send me money? hehe just kidding. Hope you are safe and stay safe, we have been hearing a lot of riots going on in there, best regards friend and take care.
@enigma13 (372)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
Hi louievill! That is an interesting factoid. I don't think that it will scare off investors though. I am not that knowledgeable when it comes to investment matters but judging from the exchange rate alone, their notes cost a lot higher than the Philippine Peso so our electricity costs are the least of their concerns. I am not a fan or supporter of PNoy. I don't think though that there is a conspiracy under the high electricity rates.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
10 Aug 11
Oh it's like this, if you are a foreign investor planning to put up a plant that consumes a lot of energy and given a choice of several countries to do it and considering all things to be equal like tax, peace and order etc...for sure the Philippines would lose out on the bid in favor of her neighbors. It's not really a conspiracy thing, it's just our government just seems to be slow when it concerns big companies. One good example is, when the dollar was high, oil companies kept raising prices almost over night by several pesos, but now that it has reached a low, they reduce oil prices by nickles and dimes, even pennies, it's like an installment basis
@zerd87 (301)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
That's true. That is the long time ago problem in our place here in Mindanao. We even pay for the loss of their system and their rate is expensive. Lots of investor will surely be disappointed in this matter. This is one of the problem of the president so the president must act on this immediately instead of focusing more on previous administration mistake. This will help much not only to the business sector but also all the people who uses electricity. The government should take or invest in greener way of acquiring electricity because it will help a lot in the future.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
True, and come to think of it Mindanao has vast resources that could be harnessed to generate clean and green power but nobody seems to tap or if ever seems not to be enough. Yes I wonder why we have to pay for their loss, if we sell vegetables and some of it rots, will government pay for our losses? Definitely not, then why do we have to shoulder the Electric company's losses
@JasperTore (1314)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
I think we are not resourceful enough to save energy in our country that is why we have the most expensive electricity in Asia. If we look at it, our country is bless with all the forms of energy. From the solar, geothermal, hydro, wind and etc, we all have these. The problem is we are not capable enough to utilize these forms of energy for our consumption. We try to rely on others to generate our electricity which is where the cost come from. If only we are brave enough to change the way how we produce electricity then I think that costs will eventually goes down. There is a monopoly going on in this country. They always say that there is an increase in this and that but if you try to scrutinize those things that they are presenting to us it is not that valid. Because, we don't have to rely on those things that they say in order to produce electricity. For example is the solar panel. The installation and the panels cost expensive but if you look at it in the long run, you can save a lot of money just by using it. You can be independent on the electric provider that asks for high rates of service. We can also have the way on how we design the house which we build. We can make a design in such a way that we can utilize the flow of the air in the surroundings. By doing so, we have a continuous natural air conditioner which we don't have to pay since its natural. There are lot of ways on how to be efficient in saving energy and making use of what we have to lessen that burden of high electric bills in our country.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
oh I agree with you there, we need to have the initiative and be a little bit more resourceful. Another thing is we should not be afraid to try new ideas. I think the real problem lies because the common Filipino earns just enough so he won't dare venture on something he does not know or know little of lest he upsets the family budget. Did you know that solar panels are no longer that expensive these days? There's a cheaper multi-crystalline type compared to the more expensive mono crystalline and you could add little by little panels depending on your need and budget. Even power controllers and power inverters needed to regulate solar and wind power and change dc to ac current is no longer that expensive. Yes building and house design is also very important though sometimes over looked, "form follows function"
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
Hello Louievill, That's because we have Low energy productivity, remember we still depend on Coal, and hydro power most of the time. I was shocked to find out that we are still using coal after all these years and we never took care of our plan to establish a Nuclear Power Plant. yes, we paid for something that never use and that's really sick. I think energy saving is still the best there sadly we can't save as much because one of the renters is also sharing electricity with us that's we still have 100$ worth of bills every month
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
I was fortunate enough to have seen the Bataan nuclear power plant twice during it's heyday or before it rotted away because I had an aunt who worked with Chicago Bridge and I think they were one of the subcontractors of Westinghouse. Yearly family company outings were held there ( the beach was so beautiful), well my aunt never married or had a family of her own so she brought me along instead. Think politics killed the plant because it was built by Marcos and I'm not so sure what to think now after what happened in Japan. Perhaps it would be good to put a sub-meter for your renters so you can see how much they consume separately.
@laniekins (4585)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
It's really alarming and in the coming month, it will take another increase in electricity bill. We can't go to grocery to shop cause of this high electricity bill. If only Bataan power plant was run, we may not have electricity bill as high as this but after what happened to Japan power plant, it's scary though!
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
We have no choice, we have to continue tightening our belts and at the same time reduce our electric consumption while they rake in all the profits
@Rosa26 (2620)
• United States
8 Aug 11
Well in my country Dominican Republic is very exensive too, but the problem is that we pay for a service that they don't give , they give like ten hours of blackouts and the cover like if they would be giving the right service, here in US is expensive too but at least they give the service.
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
9 Aug 11
Oh terrible, expensive with poor service, if I had no choice like our situation now, I would just be contented with the high price but at least no outage, we have experienced 10 hours or more brown outs before during the 90's and I know what you mean and how devastating the effects are
@hexebella (1140)
• Philippines
8 Aug 11
I am not so sure exactly what I've heard in the past (as I am out of the country most of the time) NAPOCOR has big debt to.....I don't know who....and this debt they are charging to the consumers.....also, in other countries, electricity and water distribution is operated by the government not by the private sector....unfortunately we are filipinos and we have to suffer all of these stuff....I gave up hoping for a better life in that country :(
@louievill (19299)
• Philippines
8 Aug 11
I don't understand it either hexebella, it's like the government Napocor charges us and they go bankrupt, but the privately owned Meralco also charges us and they are making a profit, and even expand to other business endeavors! LOL, I have not yet given up hoping for a better life here, at least not yet, thanks for the nice point of view from a Pinoy looking from the outside