Close your second floor windows!

@dragon54u (31638)
United States
August 12, 2011 8:07am CST
I have always closed the windows on my second floor that could be accessed by the roof. I figured that someone could boost someone up onto the top of my porch and they could enter my house through the window. Of course, people said I was a little paranoid because who would do that? A couple of days ago a family was nearly killed when a criminal entered their house in this way. Luckily the father was able to deter them and no one was hurt but nearby cameras confirmed their method of entry. So, please close your first and second floor windows. We all know people can get in the first floor windows but I hope you realize you're not safe on the second floor if the window opens out onto the roof!
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@Thoroughrob (11750)
• United States
14 Aug 11
I think that is a good reminder. It is sad that we can not leave them open anymore. I am guessing that a lot of people do not even think about it.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
14 Aug 11
Most people don't think about it because they don't know how to think like a criminal. I work hard at it so that I can be secure. I imagine, with a disabled child, that your house is probably one floor. Be sure you have window locks and it wouldn't hurt to hang a chime or bell that will be hit if someone does manage to raise the window or slide it open.
@Thoroughrob (11750)
• United States
14 Aug 11
Actually it is 2 story. It is older but has big rooms on the first floor. When my daughter was 15, we had guys climbing over our house to get to her room. It was horrible. The cops sat across the street and watched one night until she let him in the window. They had him in the car before they ever woke me up. My windows upstairs are all nailed shut, except the two that are have no way to get to them.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
21 Aug 11
You should not nail them shut--or keep a safe way to break the glass so you can escape a fire. That can be dangerous! I can just picture your daughter's red face when you tell HER children about her teen escapades!
@ElicBxn (60894)
• United States
21 Aug 11
When I was a child and lived in a two story house, we always went around and closed ALL the windows if we went out. We didn't worry too much if we were home, but honestly, we didn't have them open much anyway. They weren't really big windows, and they were rather high, well, those that were over the front porch roof. Still, it was almost 40 years ago that we moved out of that house.
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@myfb2009 (8304)
• Malaysia
15 Aug 11
There had been a few of our neighbors in our ex-area whom had been robbed because of carelessness. It seems that although they had latched their windows but seems the robbers still able to enter their home. Luckily, these robbers don't harm people. They only interested in stealing valuable things. Only after installing the iron grilled, then all the houses in our ex-area seems fully free from thieves.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
21 Aug 11
I really hate to see those grills. When I see them, I assume the neighborhood is a dangerous place to live. It's a shame people have to use those and you may be lucky to have moved away from there. I hope your own home stays safe.
@myfb2009 (8304)
• Malaysia
22 Aug 11
Same here, although i felt like i was being jailed in my own home, when i saw those grills. But i am happy that at least it can keep my home safe when i am out from my home or going vacation. So far, this new neighborhood is fine and safe from thieves. I am really happy with this new neighborhood...
• United States
12 Aug 11
LOL! I am glad to hear that I am not the only one being accused of being paranoid because I want the windows closed and locked at night not only on the first floor but also on the second floor (although right now I do not have a second floor but I did for a while). It is very scary to hear what almost happened. I know another person that lived on the second floor, and this person was robbed by the perpetrator climbing through the window. People say that it does not happen much, and we should not live our life in fear. However, I do not think that being cautious, especially when this has happened to people that we know, is living in fear. I think it is just trying to keep ourselves and our families safe.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
12 Aug 11
People should not live in fear but most would not have to if they used their brains. Thinking of worst-case scenarios is how I stay safe but many don't like to think of things like that. They ask me how I can live, thinking of the worst. I reply that I don't, I just prepare for the worst and hope for the best--works for me!
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• United States
12 Aug 11
That is exactly how I think ... I prepare for the worst, hope for the best and generally accept things that fall in between. I also feel that it works for me. It has helped me through some tough times, and it has kept me safe in circumstances where other people were not as lucky. I think that it is not healthy to live in fear, but I also think that is not good to pretend that bad things do not happen, either.
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@lelin1123 (15643)
• Puerto Rico
12 Aug 11
I'm really in shock that people would think its safe to leave their second floor windows open in this day and age. Criminals are everywhere. If they want to get into your house they will first floor window or second floor window. I would not keep a window open unless I'm in the house and awake. Sleeptime there is no way I would keep a window open. Its not like it was back in the 50's and 60's when life was simple and people were kinder.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
12 Aug 11
Sadly, we have to try to out-think the criminals these days. I have windows on each side that would take a very tall ladder to reach and those are the ones I keep open at night--only about 10", though, I use a thick rod to block it from being raised further, just in case someone should want to go to the trouble of climbing a ladder.
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@lelin1123 (15643)
• Puerto Rico
13 Aug 11
Its true we have to be one step ahead at all times. Criminals are deperate they will do whatever they can to get in. With people in the house or not.
@JoyfulOne (6242)
• United States
12 Aug 11
I used to keep them closed for the same reasons. I live in the country with no close neighbors. One time I got locked out of the house and the only way in was through the second floor window I left open. I crawled up on the porch roof that was lower and jumped over to the window sill and crawled in. Then I got to thinking, hmmm, if a 5 foot 2" woman can do that, probably anybody else could too! After that I got a hide-a-key thing and buried it under a rock well away from the house, in case I ever got locked out by accident again. I also invested in these window lock things that you add to the windows. They allow me to have a window open a few inches to let air in, yet the window cannot be moved up or down. What a relief to let air in and not have to worry about anyone getting in!
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
12 Aug 11
That reminds me of something we used to do--we would use thick wooden rods between the top of the bottom window and and the bottom of the frame. The window could only be raised as high as the length of the rods. This was back in the 50s and 60s when break-ins were not common but my Dad was very cautious when it came to our safety. You are very lucky you locked yourself out! You may be glad of that someday, that you learned that extra measure of security, although I hope the occasion never arrives.
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@JoyfulOne (6242)
• United States
12 Aug 11
We used to do the rods thing back in the 50's too (we must be fairly close in age :-) I did try a couple of windows with the rods, but I found that if the window was jiggled enough (from the outside) that they would fall out of place and the window could then be opened further. I love the locks I got that attach to both of the window parts, half the lock is on the top window sash, and the other part is on the lower window part. Nothing at all can make it come loose, and with only a couple of inches open, no arm could ever reach it and un-do it either. All in all, I guess in some respects I was lucky to have locked myself out and came to that realization!
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• United States
21 Aug 11
Very good point that one could very well access the window from an adjacent roof like garage or porch. I don't have a second floor and my first floor windows are nailed shut as I found out after we bought our home the original owner was sexually assaulted in the house and nailed them all shut. And that's how the windows remain today til we can afford to get new windows in our house; even then I'd close them at night or when we leave.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
21 Aug 11
Be sure that you have something near the windows to break them with if there is a fire!! In nailing them shut you are staying safe in one way but endangering yourself in another. Be sure the kids know they won't get punished for breaking the windows in a fire! Maybe keep a stout chair next to them with a blanket on the seat to protect from glass shards.
@QeeGood (1214)
• Sweden
13 Aug 11
I do not think you can be safe having any widows open in any direction or heights. If someone want to get in they do it. It was good that the father prevented anybody from getting hurt. I wish everybody would have a compassionate mind with good intentions for one another.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
13 Aug 11
Well, that's not going to happen, especially with the economy the way it is--desperate people will commit crimes to feed their families and evil people will take advantage of the economic climate to prey on others. We should all practice thinking like criminals and then we can better protect our homes.
@GreenMoo (11842)
13 Aug 11
That's a frightening story. People with evil intentions will use any method of entry that they can.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
13 Aug 11
Yes, and we have to out-think them and be creative!
@veejay19 (3592)
• India
13 Aug 11
I have a big verandah which is enclosed with sliding aluminium shutters.I too live on the 2nd floor but there is another floor above my house. In 2002 one night my mom who usually checked to see if the windows are latched forgot to do so. Around 4.00 am i woke up to see that acupboard which was in the verandah had its doors wide open.We got up and were horrified to see that whatever was in it was strewn on the furniture,the window that was left unlatched that night was open and a steel cupboard in another room was open with everything in it strewn on the floor. A robber had entered our house in the early hours and had robbed money from that cupboard.We called the police who arrived in half an hour. Fortunately the thief did not harm my mother who was in her 80`s nor me as i am disabled and cannot move without help.Of course, after 3 months the thief was caught and some money was recovered from him.Now i have put an iron grill outside the windows and no robber can enter the house. There have been several robberies in my building so everybody has put these grills outside their verandahs.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
13 Aug 11
How horrible for you and your mother! I'm so glad no one was hurt and also that you recovered some of the money. Good idea about the iron grill! I considered getting an iron grill on the downstairs window that looks out on my front porch but that would make property values plummet, I've been told. Our neighborhood is pretty quiet--I know that doesn't mean anything but incidents are very low.
• United States
12 Aug 11
Oh gosh you are so right and I get called paranoid too. Though I am on the first floor my boyfriend had a habit from time to time to want to leave a window open and I demand to have it shut. Although I am in a good neighborhood, one does not know if others from other areas are roaming around for easy access places and wow this is sad to hear that your family experienced this unexpected occurrence. Thanks for confirming my fears, and will continually demand the window to be shut here.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
13 Aug 11
Oh no, it wasn't my family but a family in the large city west of me. It just confirmed one of my worst scenario imaginings, something people say doesn't happen, and I wanted to show everyone that it does and nothing is safe. I want my friends here to protect themselves! And it seems you're vigilant, thank goodness. During my divorce the kids and I lived in an "upscale" community so they could continue at their school. Gangs and thugs would come in from the city (this suburb was about 10 miles north of the outskirts of the city) and roam the neighborhoods, tagging buildings and breaking into houses, etc. No one is safe these days and those, like your BF, who are lax and refuse to realize that bad things CAN happen to them need people like you and me.
@bunnybon7 (37734)
• Holiday, Florida
12 Aug 11
we only have one floor and im always checking locks etc. some think im way to paranoid but dont realise ive lived long enough to hear of many things happening to people that think they are protected or in to good of a neighborhood, etc. in fact, people should all watch the true based movie, "In cold blood" or read the story. way back when no one locked their doors usually in this rural neighborhood, all those family members were killed just cause they thought they had money. everyone was total shocked over that. so yes, i think most people dont realise it could happen to them.
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@stephcjh (32327)
• United States
12 Aug 11
We own our own home and always keep our windows closed up. You just cannot trsut people anymore and it is not safe to leave them open.
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
12 Aug 11
I'm not in the best neighborhood but people around here all leave their windows open. They do take precautions at night, though. It's awful to have to be a prisoner in your own home, with no fresh air. I take enough precautions, like securing the first floor and caution on the second, that I can still leave some windows open that are out of reach.
@ryudo05 (34)
• Philippines
12 Aug 11
Sometimes it doesn't really matter if you have a second floor or something like that and in some way someone would enter your house and steal or do some harm. There are people who think of getting what they want from people who are not aware. People who are so vulnerable and helpless. I think being cautious and always aware of your own safety will keep you from harm. Setting up security precautions can help. But being cautious will be much better. It is better to lose something than to lose more valuable than your life.
@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
12 Aug 11
I prefer not being helpless and vulnerable. That's why I frequently go over all the ways I would break into my own house if I needed to get in. I'm very creative that way so I think I'm fairly secure--but I never take it for granted. And you're right, losing a few things is nothing but life is invaluable. Welcome to myLot! I hope you have fun here, there's a lot of interesting people to meet from all over the world. I've been here 4 years and learned so much! Be sure to read the rules. Have a great day!
@sid556 (31003)
• United States
12 Aug 11
Hi Dragon, Yes, some of these people are desperate and if they want to get in, they will figure out a way. Last year, my daughter and her boyfriend were living in a 2nd floor apartment. They both work nights and sleep during the day. She said that she was awoken by a sound at her window and got up and there was a young man standing on the fire escape. When she asked him what he was doing, he told her that he was looking for a friend that lived there. Could have been but seemed pretty sketchy. I mean why would you visit your friend by climbing to the 2nd story window as opposed to taking the stairs and knocking on the door?
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
12 Aug 11
How scary for her--and for you! She needs to prop a thick rod in her window so it can only be opened as far as she permits it to. And keep some pepper spray handy by her bed and one in the living room.
@sacmom (14315)
• United States
12 Aug 11
I can't do that dragon! I don't have a second floor! LOL However, if I did, I'd make sure they were closed every night. It's funny, I used to worry about that years ago, but I never actually heard of it happening..until now. Thanks for the heads up!
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
12 Aug 11
With a one floor house you are more vulnerable than if you're on the second floor, they get to you quicker. When I lived in a one story house I had devises on all the windows to prevent their opening, window locks. Also noise-makers on all the doors if they should be jimmied open. You can't be too careful. You also can't be obsessive, but taking extra precautions may pay off big someday.
@catof1 (683)
• United States
12 Aug 11
You have the same idead I have. I have always been scared someone is going to come in from the top of the roof and I have had people say "naaa it won't happen, it's to far up or there is just no way they would pick your when there are easier ones be to got" Well you just proved my point; I do have a reason to worry for my family. I will continue to close and lock my windows and doors no matter how safe the place is. Thanks and God Bless
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@dragon54u (31638)
• United States
12 Aug 11
These days we have to think outside the box. There are desperate people out there, people that have no scruples or sense of right and wrong and they believe they can take what they want. They have no qualms about hurting people. Many people refuse to face this and stick with old ideas of security. I'm glad you are keeping your family safe. Keep up the creative thinking!
@tigeraunt (6331)
• Philippines
13 Aug 11
hi dragon, one has to be careful nowadays. thieves have found ways very cleaver to get into one's house. so there is always that possibility. ann
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@GardenGerty (104357)
• United States
26 Sep 11
That is a thought, but I have my doubts anyone would want to steal anything from me. There is only one window that opens onto a porch roof. On the ground floor I do not have windows open right now, have not all summer it was too hot. The ones that I would be prone to open I have planted barberry under and it would take a very dedicated thief to try to come in there. I think I got that tip from a show where a former criminal was giving tips. On the other side of the house it is pyracanthus. Like I said, no open windows this summer.
@KrauseHome (35514)
• United States
29 Aug 11
Well, the nice thing about most of the windows in our home, is that they have been replaced with windows that are almost impossible to put out, etc. and they would have to remove the screens first in order to get into our house. Personally though it is Best to make sure and close any ways for a person to enter especially later at night because anymore, you just really never know.