It's Best For Me To Just Shut Up and Listen!

@neildc (17257)
Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
August 21, 2011 9:05pm CST
Hiya myLotters and friends! About a week ago, I posted about my wife's getting tired of the house chores, and people suggested how I should react when she starts talking again. Well, I followed some suggestions, that I need to talk about my feelings too. But yesterday, we put the house on fire. Yes, I think I got pissed off yesterday with her mouth. I don't know, it could be that she just feel bad yesterday. She has colds and fever. But even when she is ill, her mouth never stops. And so I talked at one point when I feel I need to depend my feelings too. I have to tell her why I do not want her to get mad. And we were yelling at each other. And we did not talked for almost the whole day. I feel I really have to shut up my mouth when she starts talking, which I feel is the best for us. ~~ NEILâ„¢~~
10 people like this
45 responses
@sjvg1976 (15690)
• Delhi, India
22 Aug 11
On dear NEIL it happens with every married couples they do have arguments and quarrels.I also have it with my wife but i feel sometimes we get too much involved in the arguments and don't stop.I realized it many times and have observed that when such thing happens one person should shut up and should leave that place.I have done it several times when i see that our argument is being heated up i normally shut up and go out of the house because i know women don't easily control on their mouth.
@Hatley (161985)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Aug 11
hi sjvg yes that does work and too remember women are not just men made over to be baby carriers but we are completely different than you guys. we are more temperamental and yes we probably do talk more as we were brought up that girls must be more outgoing but I know when both people are furious your suggestion will work. I used to throw things when I got overly angry and hated that in myself as my husband very rarely ever got very angry and i really did love the man.,I have walked out myself rather than let it keep escalating. then we looked at each other and suddenly we were both laughing as the thing we were arguing about was not worth all the yelling we had done at each other. then we settled down and worked it out.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
sjvg: but some times, i don't feel going out of the house. and where will you go when you go out? hatley: it happened before that i have to throw things out of the house when we got into a quarrel. but she made me realize it was not a good practice.
@sjvg1976 (15690)
• Delhi, India
22 Aug 11
Neil: Where ever you feel that you will get relaxed or will no more be able to communicate with your wife for the time being you should go.Like i used to go to the top flour or go to my parents house as we all live in the same building. Hatley:Oh yes i think men easily understand it more and have the ability to control the situation.My wifey also gets out of control sometimes but then its up to me to increase it or stop it as i know that once she starts speaking she won't stop but certainly will realize it when she calms down.
@Hatley (161985)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Aug 11
neil maybe you do need to shut up and listen as sometimes we women get so frustrated when you guys just put us off, then we fing ourselves doing what most of us really do not want to do, yelling at you. look you lost your cool so did hse, you do love her don't you? what is it about her that made you love her,think on it some. then pick a time when she is not angry and you are not' angry with her and sit down and be nice to her, then have a talk calmly not getting emotional, I dislike that term "her mouth never stops" well mister you probably have a little to do with htaht, quarrels are never just one sided, you are a human being and humans men or woem are not PERFECT. I am not taking anyones side here but as a woman I have some compassion for your wife. I think in the Philippines you may have a bit different slant on women than we do in the US but remember taking care of a man, a house and a bevy of children is not all that easy. and if she is ill surely you must cut her some slack just as you would yourself ,be good to her and come off that her mouth never stops as I imagine she could also say the same for you when y ou were yelling at her and she was screaming at you.look women are women we are not like men, remember that I am an old lady but I am a woman and most of us are a lot more temperamental then men. lol lol. please do not be mad at me as I am not trying to be mean to you at all.just remembering my own marriage and how we managed. I had a temper too and at first used to throw things., but I did change. lol loll
1 person likes this
@Hatley (161985)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Aug 11
oh my did not edit typos fing was supposed to be find and hse was to be she and that not htaht,horrid error,
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
patsie, first of all, i am sorry for using the term "her mouth never stops". i just mentioned this because, at times, when she gets mad, she really do not stop talking. worse, bad words come out which really pissed me off some times. this is really i don't want from her, talking a lot of bad words, especially when the kids, the little kids around. i hope you know what i mean? and actually, when we fight, we really do not let the fight get long. usually, after the actual quarrel, we do not talk. but in most cases, it only takes a kiss and everything is erased. all in all patsie, i understand how you felt about this situation. i agree with the role of a Filipina you have stated and i thank you for that. and never that i get mad at anyone here giving advises and suggestions. i mean, you are all dear to me and i understand at some times, you have to spunk neil. i love you patsie.
• Netherlands
24 Aug 11
it only takes 1 kiss? Then give that kiss and end it all!
@jazel_juan (15767)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
MAN!!! Yes we told you to talk to her but you should have chosen a different time..not when she is not feeling well lol of all times. Do not approach women when they are not in the mood. got that? lol my hubby knows it well now, he would tell me i am like a tiger when i am not feeling well, or i am in pain or i have dysmenorrhea! Plus if you want to talk to her, you could take her OUT OF THE House! Like, you both go to eat or dine outside..in that way she could not shout in those areas my friend. My hubby did that. lol. And it worked, he was able to tell me what he felt..and sometimes keeping mouth shut is ok but it build up feelings of resentment and anger even..so it is much better to tell her..but please do the right timing!
1 person likes this
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
that's is one thing i beg to disagree with, dysmenorrhea. why most women use their periods as a reason?
@jazel_juan (15767)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
now this one i could laugh! Have you felt the pain if you have dysmenorrhea?? guys do not have an idea how PAINFUL it is. My hubby would also complain at times that i complain too much when in pain, well, you will also complain if ever you are the one having those menstrual cramps and i tell you, it is THAT PAINFUL.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
i know that it is painful though i really have not felt it. but my question is, why they should use this as an excuse when basically, they should be used to it since it comes regularly each month.
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
I am so sad to hear your story and I don't know what to say. Maybe, your wife is suffering from something, maybe emotional because from your story, she's easily irritated and talks so much. I know that you guys doesn't want woman who talks much. I admire your patience. Anyway, hope everything will be okay soon.
1 person likes this
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
she actually had fever and colds yesterday. i really guess i should have not done what i did. but i was pushed to my limits and erupted too.
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Don't be too hard on yourself. Your are just human and sometimes we can't really control our emotions even we want to. Just try your best to make things okay and soon it will be better.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
yes i know and i hope it won't happen again. well, so far, everything's back to normal. and thank you for the support.
@celticeagle (114473)
• Boise, Idaho
22 Aug 11
I think people should learn how to listen when they are in a relationship of any kind. Disrespecting the other person by talking over them does not help anyone. It causes bad feelings that takes along time to clear up. Here is a good article about how to listen. There are certain things you need to learn about listening and communicating back and forth instead of yelling. Here are some highlights: Remove distractions and tune in to what this person is saying. Eye contact is important. Turn down or off music or television. Remove anything else that can take your mind away from what is being said. Give them the respect you would like to receive from them. Calm yourself. Picture yourself walking through a forest. Only the sounds of birds and animals. Or mentally place yourself in a place where you can relax. Be quiet and reflective. Take some time to listen to your own thoughts and what is in your head. A busy mind does not make a good listener. Empty your mind of thoughts and emotional feelings. This will help you hear what the other person is saying. Life is busy and full of so much we have to interact and be a part of that it is hard to separate it all and strive to say what we need to say. Practice what you want to say. Run it through your mind so that when the time comes you will be able to express yourself. If it is a difficult subject then rehearsing is a good way to make your side of the conversation seem more realistic and true. Hope those are of help to you.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
i'll put these all in my mind CE and hope this incident will not happen again in the future. thank you so much.
1 person likes this
@celticeagle (114473)
• Boise, Idaho
23 Aug 11
I hope you will and that they help you.
@silverglint (2001)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
One rule that my husband and I have is that we don't get mad at the same time. If one of us is already hot-tempered, then the other will just have to control his/her temper so that the issue will not grow worse. If your wife is already mad, then you will just have to talk to her calmly, express what you want to say to her without raising your voice. That way, she will eventually calm down because you are not fueling her temper, there is no way she can be mad at you when you are just talking to her calmly. Shutting up will not help at all, you will just harbor ill feelings towards your wife and you will not be able to address the issue properly
1 person likes this
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
we actually have the same rule silverglint, it's just that maybe, i was pushed to the limit. i really thought i have perfected how to control the situation as this do not happen too frequently.
@jennybianca (12918)
• Australia
22 Aug 11
It can be difficult to know what to do in this situation. Obviously talking reasonably to one another without shouting is half the problem. If you get your wife in a calm state, then begin the conversation with " I know how you feel".. but...'If all else fails, then may be counselling that focuses on commuincation would help. As I haven't been on My lot for a long time, I am not up to date with your situation.
1 person likes this
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
i know how to handle her but actually, i could have just fed up at that time. well anyway, this happens not too frequently. i just hope this will not happen again very soon. thanks.
1 person likes this
@stephcjh (32385)
• United States
22 Aug 11
That is terrible. I think you have to be able to talk to one another for the relationship to be healthy and strong. My husband used to not talk to me and it made things worse.
1 person likes this
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
i don't think there is really something that we should talk that we have not tackled with. and i can say that our relationship, so far for almost 16 years is strong and healthy. i guess, this is just part of what we call, married life.
@salonga (28073)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
I understand you my friend if there would be times you get fed up with your nagging wife. No husband would like a nagger so I understand you fully well. If you and your wife could just talk about this problem without getting into war then the the better. Maybe during your light moment you could talk and tell her in a nice way why she should not nag. If still she did not change then I just wish somebody else can talk to her. Your wife should know the danger of being a nagger. She should realize that a nagger is the least person a husband would appreciate. I hope your wife has a relative or an elder, or a friend who could advice her that she should control her mouth if she wants her husband to love her more and if she values peace and harmony in the family.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
i know she will listen to advises but most of the times, she don't, when she feels she is on the right side. meanwhile, there were also times, i had to tell her not to be so a nagger. she told me once, i cannot resist. and more she said, that will help her aching heart to release her tension in life, a yell there and a shout over here. sometimes, i hate her when she yells bad words to me or the kids. "hay, buhay" (oh what a life)
@lilybug (21182)
• United States
22 Aug 11
I think you need talk to her when you are both in a good mood. Let her know what is bothering you. I am one of those people who cannot have a reasonable conversation when I am upset about something. I need time to cool down. Try talking to her when she is calm and you are calm.
1 person likes this
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
good advice lilybug. thanks.
@ANTIQUELADY (36491)
• United States
22 Aug 11
Making a marriage work is the hardest job U WILL EVER HAVE. Good luck.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
i guess it's not really that hard jo. you see, we are together and trying to keep the marriage at smooth as possible for almost 16 years now.
1 person likes this
@besthope44 (12145)
• India
22 Aug 11
Marriage is not hard, any relations will have happy and fighting parts. But dont take it emotional, as its just can lost a fraction of hours. Always find smart way to handle fights. Either a silence or agreeing the wrong (even its not ur mistake). This will kill the ego of others. Many times ego is the root of a great fights.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
well actually, we don't let a fight to last long. usually, it only takes one kiss and a moment of silence in the room.
1 person likes this
@toniganzon (42803)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
My mother was really a nagger. My father hated that a lot and whenever they fought, my father broke things in the house and then ran away to my grandma. My father never laid a finger on my mom and that was his best quality, but he liked breaking my mom's precious china wares. That was a waste of money! I tried to understand my mom since she was a very busy woman, earning a lot of money thinking of where to invest, etc. But i felt my dad as well! Who would want a nagging wife? So i promised to myself i won't be like my mom, but sometimes i couldn't help berating my husband but that's on rare occasion. But you know what i hate it when my husband keep silent on me. Would rather have him talk than walk away.
@ybong007 (6659)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Hi Toni that's the exact same quality that my wife doesn't like but something she's very grateful of. When she's on a tirade I just ignore her. That way she feels she's talking to a wall. It's hard in beginning because we may be silent but we're not deaf and words can get in our nerves. Maybe Neil had so much of it already.
@toniganzon (42803)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Yes i know he's fed up. But in my case when my husband turns his back on me, it would make things worse for us. So better discuss things with me and sort it out rather than go away. And that's only in my case that's why i said I. And my mother-in-law always told us that we should never let the day pass without solving our conflicts. But Neil's wife is different from me and so is your wife. I don't nag and when i'm sick i don't talk a lot. I'm a very quiet person except when i'm having pms.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
i would really have to keep silent toni than put a fight with her. and to tell you boastlessly, i have not hurt her physically, never laid a finger on her even how much a nagger she is. ybong is right. i really been silent more times that she will talk at me. i could be a nagger to the kids but when my wife start talking, i shut up. that's the way she really want us to do when she talks. i think i was really pushed to my limits. i seldom turn my back on her. like what i have said, shut up and listen. as long as there is no physical contact, it will be fine, at least for me. anyway, like you've said, you, my wife and ybong's are all different from each other. i could only say to this, maybe, your husband, me and ybong are all with the same approach to our wives?
@jazzyrae (1747)
• United States
22 Aug 11
you fell in love with her once.. what are the things you love about her? just remember and focus on those things....remember there are things you do that annoy her to
@jazzyrae (1747)
• United States
22 Aug 11
completly agreed. make sure it's in a comfortable enviorment so neither one of you fell you are being attacked
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
yes, but there are really some people that do not accept they got wrong or do not want to know they did was wrong. this could be one negative aspects of the one who love.
@jazzyrae (1747)
• United States
22 Aug 11
hmmm.... have you explaind how you fell to your wife
@ybong007 (6659)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
the joy and bliss of a married life. Can we just return our wives to their parents so we can live a life in peace? . To some extent I feel the same way Neil, there's always that point where I am pushed to the limits of restraint from shouting back and pouring every thing I feel inside to my wife. Sure, I understand that she's having a bad day but it's just torture when she opens her mouth and say things that I consider trivial. But so far I always manage to just let everything pass from one ear to another. There's just no point in fighting fire with fire, that I'm certain and so far it's working. Because I realize that it's not easy to stay at home and do all the things wives have to do. The kids alone are already draining plus all the house chores that needs to be done. It would seem OK if there's more than enough money but I think budgeting gives the biggest headache that's why I leave it up to her. When ever I feel like exploding, I just watch TV and turn up the volume. Sure I shout back but that's just in my thoughts that way I won't hurt her feelings.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
could that be possible? i got really pissed off yesterday and i do hope that won't happen again. if we will continue to fight, who will be the biggest loser. it's not you or me or our wives, but the children.
@ybong007 (6659)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
I think the silent types have the tendency to explode like what happened to you. The longer we keep our thoughts and opinions to our selves the harder it is to contain until you just explode one day without you knowing until it's too late. And then you just realized that you shouldn't have done what you just did and you'll feel guilty about the whole thing afterwards and worse, everyone will blame you for what you did . But it's all part of a married life, it's there already and there's no way you can turn back time. I guess there's a very important lesson learned there and that's the lack of communication between spouses. Like you, I just let everything pass my ears to avoid confrontations but I realized that it's not healthy for both of us. She can talk whatever she can and I can stay silent as much as I can but would it solve the problem? Of course not. As far as I'm concerned, you did what you have to do and there will always be a time when the man of the house will have to raise his voice. It's just part of being married. What's important is you make "lambing" afterwards.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
you could be right ybong, i just exploded like a volcano. and yes, now i am being blamed, but i cannot really blame myself totally. there are times i wanted to talk about my feelings but she won't listen. i know, this is part of our lives that we really cannot avoid to happen once in a while. and yes, after the fire, there is always silent movies to follow.
@secretbear (19472)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Hi neil! That's really sad. A hot head should really not be met with another hot head. And you're right. You should have just shut up your mouth when your wife started talking. Maybe you could have talked but with a calm voice and not with raised voice like hers. She was probably extra angry because of her fever. I hope you can patch up things with her today. Good luck!
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
it could possibly be me that really caused the fire started, my bad. but when you're pissed off and you know you are doing the right thing, will you really be sitting there and let her attack you with fire words?
@secretbear (19472)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
If you know you're right, then you should just have explained it to her more calmly. In her condition, it wasn't surprising that she's extra fiery and emotional. And you being on the right frame of mind, should have fought head on with extra calmness.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Aug 11
i know i should be blamed too for the fire but who am i to control every feelings that gets inside of me? as the saying goes, i am only human, just like you and me.
@veronizm (909)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Hi neil! I got shocked for a moment there coz I thought that you literally put the house on fire! Anyway, I don't really know the whole story but allow me to give you some advice based on what I know. Basically, we female species tend to get really "mouthy" when we're frustrated about something. That's kind of a given -- it's human nature to us females, well, 99% of us if not all. But what most men don't know is that we just wanted to vent out our frustrations, that is all. We didn't really need other people's (or in this case, our husband's) opinion or advice, but we just wanted to let it all out. I think it was just a bad timing for you when you told her your mind, after all, aside from being tired, she has colds & fever, I can only imagine her demise and frustration when you talked to her. Doing household chores is a very tiring job, and not only that it is tiring, it's veeery boring and monotonous! Especially if she's just doing it all by herself? Aside from your kid/s, is she alone in the house all day? Because that can also be a factor. Perhaps she's not only tired about the chores, but also bored about her days in general. I myself would always complain about the chores, but my husband would just keep quiet and not complain back. Like you, he realizes that it's best for him to just shut up and (most importantly) listen He also knows that I'm bored. So what he usually does is take me & the baby out to a simple dinner or a stroll around the mall or park, etc. But of course, it's also unhealthy for you to just shut up all the time. You can always say your mind but make sure the timing is good. Make sure that she's not tired or angry and your emotional environment is calm and happy. She'd be more open to listening if she's calm and rested But when she's frustrated and starts ranting, just listen, and if you should talk, don't give her advice on what to do, instead, sympathize with her. Do you watch Modern Family? There's a very good example there in one of their episodes where Phil (the husband) was in the Spa (I know, it's a long story ). Anyway, his wife called him on his cellphone and told him about how frustrated she is with her day. When Phil started to tell her what to do with it, she got shut out by her wife and the ladies in the Spa told him that he should have just listened and sympathized with her rather than telling her what she should do or should have done. Anyway, that's all I can say for now. I hope I helped. I admit that my suggestions may be a little bit biased because I myself am a woman and a wife, but I can totally relate with your wife. At least you would have some more woman's perspective :) Have a great day and happy Lotting!
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
so i really catched your attention with that statement? i hope it will not happen, getting the house on fire, with anyone of us. i heard a lot of suggestions, advices and good comments here. and yes, most have agreed with what i should have done, as the title of this discussion suggests. and i believe which responders also believe that it is just a wrong timing for me. doing the house chores is really boring as you have said. but what makes it more irritating is when the people around or the people in the same house do not have initiatives in helping one another. i say this with regards to the children, especially the teens. i know they also have priorities, their school. but i guess we all have our own responsibilities being members of this family. and they should have thought about this, they aren't kids anymore, they should be mature enough. you know, this really what i told my wife. when she asked, why i should be getting mad when she gets mad. i said, because i don't want her to get mad. to get mad of the kids when you are talking to them. when you are telling them to move their butts and do this and do that. and they will not move at once, as they don't hear a word from you. a lot of times, the situation is this. that makes me mad at the kids but i could not show them or even let my wife hear that i was getting mad at the kids. i don't know, maybe because i just don't want her to get mad and hear her nagging voice once again.
@veronizm (909)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Yup it did catch my attention! That was a good one :) Anyway... Yeah it's really irritating when other people in the household won't contribute. It's expected from teens though, you know, because of their raging hormones. But don't worry, soon enough they would learn the value of responsibility and would be responsible enough to help you and your wife in the chores. You are right about not being mad to the kids when you talk to them especially about telling them to move their butts and do this and that because being mad would only make them lower their guard down and not pay attention. It's also gonna make them not like to work. Best to tell them gently so that they would associate work with a good feeling, thus, would be willing to do chores even when not told. It's just understandable what you did. All of us have our own shock absorbing limit so sometimes we just can't handle the stress anymore and fight back. Anyway, you've been together for 16 years, I'm pretty sure you're an expert in handling your marital dispute
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
got that. and just like the others said, this happens and only part of our married life. expert? could be, but like any other situations in our lives, there are ups and downs. the best thing about this is, we learned from our mistakes, and we get up when we fell down.
@RawBill1 (8542)
• Gold Coast, Australia
22 Aug 11
Yes Neil. I feel your pain my friend. Sometimes you feel you need to get your point across and to be heard, but that only makes the situation worse. When dealing with these hormonal creatures called women, I think it is best to just let them get their way, stay silent and then talk about it calmly in a day or so when all the anger and frustrations have subsided. That is my experience anyway. Fighting and getting angry gets us nowhere. I know the silent days after an argument too. They are very awkward.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
hormonal creatures called women - i know and i really practice the same, keeping myself silent when this happens. i thought i have already perfected it but so far no.
@RawBill1 (8542)
• Gold Coast, Australia
23 Aug 11
I don't think we can ever perfect this as they (hormonal beasts) keep changing the rules all the time!
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
you have a point RB.
@amkiller (533)
23 Aug 11
yes you should shut up cause if you don't she might divorce you.Which will never happen so just try to stay clam and everything will be allright.
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
26 Aug 11
there's no divorce in the country.
@amkiller (533)
26 Aug 11
of I am sorry I did not know.
@Airen214 (50)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Yes, the best thing a man can do is to keep their mouth shut when a woman is on fire. It could really burst or explode like a bomb. The more a man interferes with her, the more she could talk loudly. I think most women are like that so better not to interfere with them and just pretend that you accept whatever things she said. Later on when she feels better from nagging or shouting, you now have the chance to talk with her trying to ask what she is really mad about. Because when a man is on fire, woman is also afraid to interfere with him. She is afraid to be hurt by his fists or get slapped on her face which is not really good for couple. That could be one of the grounds why most couple got separated.Isn't it? What do you think?
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
even how mad i am or angry with my wife, i won't hurt him physically. i could have done something that hurt her ego but i really could not imagine hitting her, giving her my strongest blow or slap. i think, that will be the worst person i will ever be if i hurt her physically. besides, i know about the law the protects the rights of women and i will never violate it.
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
Good to know that. You are such a good person who really understands your wife especially on the thing that you hate her to do, the nagging or shouting...and hurting someone's ego is really one of the reasons for couple to have troubles in their conversation...It's nice reading your response Neildc!
@Lakota12 (42794)
• United States
22 Aug 11
SOmetimes its good to get things out int he opena dn not hold in even if there is a shouting match just if ya both listen what each other are saying
@neildc (17257)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
i also agree with what you want to point out lakota.
@Lakota12 (42794)
• United States
23 Aug 11
cool