5 Portions Of Fruit And Veg A Day. Don't Think It's Happened Yet!

@Janey1966 (24170)
Carlisle, England
September 1, 2011 1:37pm CST
In the UK we have this mad "rule" by the government which states that - ideally, we all should have at least 5 portions of fruit and veg a day. So, for example, you could eat a banana at breakfast and later on in the day have all the vegetables you need, plus an apple later on. However, potatoes don't count as your 5 a day and I eat them daily in some form or other, except fried (we get chips from the chippy once a week..I oven bake mine). Mum reckons they should count as one of the 5 a day due to their versatility. I only put butter on them whenever I do jacket spuds or in mash. The rest of the time I have boiled potatoes along with peas and - sometimes, carrots. I don't beat myself up about this "5 a day" lark but is there anyone out there who does? And if we're supposed to take it seriously why do the supermarkets (where most people do their shopping) rip us off with all this fruit and veg? Why is it not cheaper than the crap?
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22 responses
• Canada
1 Sep 11
Food Chart - Canadian Food Chart Pyramid
I think I make it. I eat carrots, peas, brocoli, spinach, kale, cauliflower and more veggies at least everyday As for fruits, we always have oranges, apples, peaches, cherries, tomatoes, blueberries, strawberries, bananas, etc. I eat my veggies and fruits cooked because I cant eat raw foods. Hubby can eat them raw . Our Canadian Food Guide Chart says that we should eat 7-8 fruits and veggies for female, 8-10 for men, 6-7 grain products for female, 8 for men, 2 milk alternatives for both men and women, meat and alternatives 2 for women, 3 for men. Heres a link to it all if you're interested and Im posting a picture of the "pyramid" that should be followed. http://hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/basics-base/quantit-eng.php I try to do the best I can and dont worry so much about it. You're right, the supermarkets are selling fresh produce at a ridiculous high price compared to junk foods. Im told that Walmart will now sell fresh produce here in a few months and the prices will be way low. Id much rather support local supermarkets but if they cant compete with Walmart, Im afraid they'll lose me as a customer According to our Canadian Food Guide, pizza is a very balanced meal ....go figure!
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
1 Sep 11
ah Magical bu bble tell me mor3e pizza is a balancedmeal love it. lo; along with chocolate really being good for us. wonderful.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
I'm going to stock on pizzas RIGHT NOW lol! Actually, it's one food item I've not made yet but I shall, once I remember to get some pizza dough!
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• Canada
2 Sep 11
@HATLEY: yes its a balanced meal, it has grain, fruit (tomato) veggies, meat, cheese. Very balanced and the more you add on top, the better it is. Make sure the dough is thin @JANEY: dont buy already made pizza dough, make your own, its really easy and tastes so much better.....you can do it girl its full of easy recipes on the net!
@JodeneB (177)
• United States
1 Sep 11
I think you should be able to eat what you want...it's your body. There's talk over here in the US about what we should eat to, because they say that so much is spent on health care- a good portion to obese related illness that if we ate better, then the health care system wouldn't be so stretched and broken. I think we eat what we want, and like what you mentioned, that if they want you to buy s certain thing, at least make it affordable! I would eat better things if i could afford it too!
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
It makes a change you copying us rather than the other way round..but I get your point. I am sticking to my new cooking regime but if I want to bake a cake, I'll bake a cake and Cameron and his cronies won't be able to stop me lol.
@oldchem1 (8132)
14 Sep 11
Firstly there isn't a 'stupid rule' there is recommendation that we eat 5 portions of fruit or veg a day. It is an extremely sensible recommendation and the government do have the right to try to encourage healthy eating as it is them who have to fund the NHS to put problems caused to our health from not eating healthily.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
14 Sep 11
5 a day? Personally this seems like a lot. I know that eating like this is supposed to be better for you nutrition wise, but that is a lot of food. I wonder what forms they are referring too, and if the people stating this really follow it? I know I don't eat that many.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
19 Sep 11
Yesterday we bought tinned Bramley apple to go into a crumble with some lovely rolled oats (already had the plum version and it was awesome, although they were "the real thing" so to speak) and the tinned apple was actually 9p cheaper than 4 Bramleys! Way to go..so I've got some apple and blackberry too. Can't wait to try them out.
@oldchem1 (8132)
15 Sep 11
It is extremely easy to eat 5 portions a day and you are actually probably doing this without you realising you are! Tomato in ketchup or on pizza counts as a portion, vegetables in soups and sauces count, fruit juice classes as fruit - I reckon I probably have more like 10 - 12 a day. So far today I have already had 6 and have not had my main meal yet - sliced tomato with my bacon at breakfast,(1), a glass of orange juice with breakfast (1), 3 portions of different vegetables in a bowl of soup and an apple (1)
@Christoph56 (1504)
• Canada
3 Sep 11
The Canadian Food Guide out here, actually recommends that we eat between 5-9 fruits and vegetables per day, and I think tubers are on that list, too. So, I often have a banana with breakfast, and all sorts of greens like celery, peppers, broccoli, spinach, sprouts, etc etc, plus other fruits like apples, oranges, nectarines, plums, etc through the day. Its not tough for me to get 5+ on those. I am wondering, though, whats your prices on fruits and vegies? Most fruit we have costs about 50-75 cents per fruit, and vegies are usually around $2 for a busshel of them. Are your prices way higher?. BTW, the Pound is worth about 1.6 Canadian dollars, so my fruit is about 20-30 pents each, or 1.20 pounds for the bunches of vegies.
• Canada
14 Sep 11
It really sounds like your fruit and vegie prices aren't that bad... you can buy around 30 tomatoes or 5kg of potatoes for the price of 1 fast food meal! And Potatoes are starchy and high carbs, but they're still included on the fruit and vegie list for the Canadian food guide. You just have to make sure you don't go too far with them.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
4 Sep 11
Well, we eat loads of potatoes in various forms. The little salad ones (sometimes in less than a 1kg bag) can range anywhere up to about £1.35, depending on the time of year. The "mashers" or the more versatile spud can vary wildly in price and we have been known to pay nearly £2 for a 2kg bag! I've started to eat more tomatoes and have noticed the silly prices of those too, ranging from 85p to over a pound for about 6! My Dad grows them and sometimes I wish he was living next door as I'd get them for nothing. We could grow veg but we are very short of room. I decided early on that I preferred to grow plants/flowers rather than vegetables in my raised flower bed. They are much prettier to look at and I even have a Winter Jasmine that flowers in the colder months so there is always something interesting going on.
@oldchem1 (8132)
14 Sep 11
Potatoes are a starchy carbohydrate high food and is not included in the fruit and vegetables!
@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
2 Sep 11
I guess when they made that rule, they forgot about people who are diabetic. Fruit is something that us diabetics cannot eat. As for potato's and peas, again, us diabetics cannot eat them, why? Because potato's are all carbs and peas are extremely high in sugar. I guess thats why most people like them. also, carrots have sugar but not as much as potatoes, peas and corn. I have to watch everything I eat. But I do cheat from time to time. After all, I am still human.
@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
2 Sep 11
I agree that the 'five a day rule' is difficult for diabetics, especially for those who don't rely on injected insulin (Type 1). Diabetics, however, do need carbohydrates just as much as those with normal insulin functionality. It is the fast action of fructose and glucose which is dangerous for diabetics. As a diabetic, your choice of vegetables is more limited and it is necessary to take the 'glycemic index' into account. Foods with a high glycemic index are better because the conversion of starches to sugars is slower and can therefore be handled better by a body which has lost its capability of using insulin. Your body still needs the fibre and minerals which fruit and vegetables supply so one simply has to choose from the fruits and vegetables which are lower in fructose and glucose. This may tend to limit one to the green vegetables, such as lettuce, spinach and cabbage and its relatives and it would be wise to plan your intake to small amounts over the course of the day. Those Type 2 diabetics who need to inject insulin can, perhaps, eat a wider variety of fruits and vegetables because they are able to compensate by increasing the insulin dosage. There are insulin pumps which can measure blood sugar regularly and adjust the insulin level automatically, though they are not widely available yet.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
There you go, I've started something interesting here...thanks guys.
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• China
2 Sep 11
Apple, orange, kiwi, and pear belong to fruit of low glycemic index.In addition,grapefruit can lower blood sugar.
1 Sep 11
I hate the "Five a day" rule. My grandparents always say that they got buy just fine before all the "healthy eating" craze took hold, and I see no reason why not continue like it. I know some people who make sure they east right and only give their kids organic this, and no fried foods, etc. I want to know how they live. Why not enjoy life now, and worry about healthy stuff is and when it's proved that people are happier worrying about what they eat and how much fruit/veg etc. Anyone else with me here?
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
Believe me, I don't worry about it but I do know of individuals who are obsessed with these things and are no healthier than you or I.
@oldchem1 (8132)
14 Sep 11
It is NOT A RULE !! It is a recommendation and a very sensible one at that. It's not even 'healthy eating' it is a normal way of eating - I would imagine that most people who think they're NOT eating their 5 a day actually are. Do you have tomato or mushrooms with your bacon?Do you have tomato ketchup on your food? Do you eat stews and casserole that contain carrots, do you have a drink of fruit juice or a smoothie, do you eat baked beans in tomato sauce - all of these things contribute to your fruit and veg intake.
2 Sep 11
Lol. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
3 Sep 11
At a veggie and vegan fair they said it should be 7 portions but the UK government say 5 because it is more manageable. I think potatoes are a vegetable so they should be counted. Fruit juice however much counts as one portion. One soup I know has three portions of vegetables. Wow! Fruit and vegetables cane be pricey especially in the winter. I like fruit bars which count as one portion. It is easy to add fruit into breakfast like a grapefruit in a bowl. It could be strawberries and raspberries on cereal. For lunch it could be a salad with cucumber, lettuce, cress and spring onions. Alternatively it could be a vegetable soup. For pudding it could be peaches and pineapple. For dinner it could be pasta which mushrooms. A drink could be a fruit juice or a fruit smoothie. I eat a vegan diet.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
4 Sep 11
I don't like enough vegetable to be a vegan so I admire you, being on a vegan diet. Some dim mothers think Jaffa Cakes are part of the 5 a day because they think they have proper oranges in them..well, they don't, it's a flavouring!
• United States
10 Sep 11
maybe that's optimal for them,but that's too much for me.i've never been a big fruit eater to begin with,and i simply don't eat as much a day as they recommend. it seems more of a generalization,like most horoscopes.if you don't tailor it to the person,it's worthless.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
10 Sep 11
Very true.
@GreenMoo (11834)
2 Sep 11
Five portions a day is really easy to achieve! The portions don't need to be huge. I don't count how many portions I eat, but if I go back over the last few days I know I had them, even yesterday when I was travelling all day and eating picnic food on the way. How about putting some fruit on your cereal in the morning, taking fruit or dried fruit as snacks and a couple of veggie or salad choices along with your main meals. You'd manage it really easily and it would honestly be better for you.
@GreenMoo (11834)
3 Sep 11
Tinned mandarins are my absolute favourites! Not as good for you as the fresh variety I'm sure, but better than none I'm sure.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
Well, I am eating more fruit now than I used to as I had lots of fruit when I was growing up and always enjoyed it. Someone in a box above has mentioned draining fruit from a tin and pouring that over a yogurt. I think it's a brilliant idea and I may try it sooner rather than later. I don't even know what's out there in the tinned varieties. I may be pleasantly surprised!
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
7 Sep 11
I think that's what the 'crap'-makers rely on. That fruit and veggies are more expensive, and the government stating that you should still have them, 5 portions a day. It would be easier for them to sell their stuff, and make people wonder why they bother with the more expensive fruit and veggies. And may even prompt others to post discussions about it at social networking sites.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
7 Sep 11
• China
2 Sep 11
I wonder If "5 a day" is in keeping with your new cooking regime.Don't tomato ,lime,pineapple,strawberry ,etc .count as it?How much each portion Is?
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
I'm not sure what constitutes a portion, to be honest but I have cut down considerably on potato portions. The main reason for this is our smaller steamer. It's impossible to put too many potatoes in the bottom, otherwise the water seeps into the next pan with the holes in it (and the peas) for steaming. Also, it's difficult getting the next pan onto the bottom one as the potatoes can get in the way if it's over-filled! I do get the larger pan out for mashed potato though. Gotta have some treats in my life!
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• China
3 Sep 11
I like potato too.Usually We add some flour ,a little salt and ginger dust to mashed potatoes made of boiled potatoes,shape it into ball-shaped stuffs that have a diameter of 3cm,then fry .It is delicious.
• United States
2 Sep 11
Ours has changed to 9. The First Lady proposed that we have 9 fruits and veggies a day.. I do try to get that many in me. I was buying fresh fruit and that got to be way too expensive, so I am buying canned fruit and I rinse the syrup off them and eat them with yogurt.. I like peaches, fruit cocktail, Mandarin oranges, any kind of fruit, and I like most any kind of frozen veggie.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
What a brilliant idea..tinned fruit! It's improved a lot hasn't it, over the years and yes, you're right, it's far cheaper than buying fresh, so to speak. I guess it lasts longer too, with it being in a tin? I may try what you have had and rinse the syrup off and bung the fruit in a plain yogurt. Sounds yummy..and good for you that you have improvised in this way.
• United States
2 Sep 11
Oh Thank you Janey for the best response. Yes, canned fruit lasts a long time. I don't know what the shelf life is, because we don't keep it around that long.. but I guess it would be good for over a year. I drain it and rinse it off to get the sugary syrup off from it and then mix it with yogurt.. I love it! We are going shopping tonight and we will get lots of canned fruit.. pears, peaches, and the like.. I also like frozen strawberries and mixed fruit. I make smoothies out of them with some sugar free drink like Crystal light and yogurt... it's really good and a treat too. I put a little Splenda in there for sweetener.. and wow! Soooo good!
@Rosa26 (2618)
• United States
2 Sep 11
I think is a very good rule of your country. There are a lot of researh that prove eating fuits and vegetables are critical to promoting good health. I don't eat them everyday because are very expensive but at least three times in the week I eat brocoli, carrot, and eggplants. I think that one of the reasons because the fruits and vegetables are expensive is because is comsumed in big quantities, like eggs,rice,or meat. And another reason can be because most of the fruits and vegetables are seasonal so they are not always in the stores. Maybe we can cultivate some of hem like tomatoes,pepper,cabagge at home and them we don't have to buy them.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
My Dad grows his own tomatoes and he gives a lot of them away for free. I reckon he should charge!
@Rosa26 (2618)
• United States
3 Sep 11
Oh yes my grandpa was like him, he had a farm and he cultivate pineaple, bot, sweet potato, plantain, oranges, tamarindo, mangoes, lemons, coffe, and more. And he had a lot animals he raised pigs, turkeys, hen, chicken, chick, rooster, sheep, guinea pig, and a lot of more, and he used to share with his friends, he was a very good man like your Dad!!
@francesca5 (1344)
2 Sep 11
i don't like being told to eat 5 fruit and veg a day, but on the other hand i do do it, because i know how important it really is. the reason they say different ones is because though they all have vitamin c, they all contain different nutrients, like a lot of minerals that we need, for our bodies to function properly. i know the campaign to make us eat 5 a day is really annoying, i have always eaten a lot anyway, and after being told to do i was tempted to eat less. but on this the people who tell us what to do are, unfortunately, right, this time. though there are still loads of other things they are wrong about, so don't worry, they aren't anywhere close to always right!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
Yes, government campaigns are ALWAYS annoying, I agree with you on that!
@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
2 Sep 11
I responded to another discussion about a healthy fruit and veg intake...Apparently,the UK's 5 a day thing is a compromise that errs on the low side of what's considered healthy,with some countries recommending up to 20 portions! as for the price,They think We'll pass on cheap foods for more expensive fruit and organic veggies..hmmmm....
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
Wow, 5 is the minimum? I never knew that.
@ElicBxn (63233)
• United States
1 Sep 11
expense is how much it costs to produce... and around here you can't find ANYTHING locally grown because of the heat/drought... and potatoes are a starch, like wheat and, believe it or not, corn
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
Yes, full of carbs I believe. However, without them I'd have no energy to do anything lol. Oh, and they're full of Vitamin C which is a good thing too..and the fibre, which makes me "go." Haha!
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
1 Sep 11
I'm not sure that it is a "rule" buit it is a sensible standard. Since being ill I now regularly eat my 5 a day and lots more. 10 is not unusual and it has been more!! I think that the important thing is to eat a well balanced diet and not stick slavishly to so called guidelines. I think that the reason why fruit and veg is expensive has a lot to do with the fact that we have become spoiled and expect strawberries in December and turnips in July. If we ate seasonaly I think that we would have a balanced diet that actually had some taste connected to it!! Processed foods cost less because they contain very little of the separate constituent items and are high in fillers, sugars and salts. Keep up your home baking because not only is it good for you but is keeping you focused.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
Thanks! I made (some more) almond biscuits earlier and they aren't half yummy. More almondy than sugary which can't be a bad thing. I know what you mean about customers wanting certain foods all year round. I actually refuse to eat any apple that ISN'T from the UK as it goes against the grain. It's tough not eating them the rest of the year but I just love English apples and cannot stand to see "Granny Smiths: Country of Origin: South Africa." Does my head in.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
1 Sep 11
hijaney anyone who owns their own home and has a yard would ideally grow their own veggies and fruits. I really did try to eat the prescribed five as its one good way for us with diabetes to keep our blood sugar normal and here in California a lot of our produce is grown locally or at the most in Northern Ca so most veggies are pretty reasonable as are most fruits. but alas I am now at the mercy of Gold Crests cooks so I do take a mulit vitamin every day to be sure I am not completely without vitamins and minerals.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
Good for you.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
2 Sep 11
Wow nice rule actually. Atleast it advocates healthy living..just that producers tend to put too much on the price.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
I guess it's due to the fact we want bananas and such-like all year round. However, some supermarkets try to highlight seasonal produce grown in this country..rhubarb, for example. This doesn't happen everywhere though and I reckon it should. Keeps our growers happy for a start.
• United States
2 Sep 11
I don't think I eat the 5 a day portions and maybe 0 - 3 if at that. I do eat very healthy but do not count the amounts in food groups per day. Rice and or pasta are the two most common for me. I barely eat fruit as I am very picky about the few I like. I do eat a lot of veggies, that almost daily. Yes our local grocers here are way more expensive when it comes to their fruits and vegetables. Could be because they are in season and they make up for the rest of the year, as to why it costs more?
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
2 Sep 11
Could be..over here transport costs will, no doubt play a part due to fuel being way higher than it used to be. If Beeching hadn't shut down all those Train Stations in the 60s it could all go by rail!