Why so many duplicate discussions remaining?

@bagarad (7647)
Paso Robles, California
September 12, 2011 12:40am CST
I was going to start a discussion tonight so I did the usual search and saw that there were already five duplicates of them, none with more recent responses than four or five years ago. Whichever one I might reply to would be a duplicate, which might then be deleted if someone reported it. I find it amazing, since I also looked up another subject and found the same thing -- about four duplicate discussions that were very old. Would you respond to one of these to revive it? If so, which one -- the oldest, which was first, or the youngest, which is definitely a duplicate, or the one with the most responses? How would you decide?
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• United States
12 Sep 11
Yes there are duplicate discussions all the time and yes answering could potentially get the discussion deleted. However, is it truly duplicate and or similar? See all interests surely on a daily basis have similar discussions. My understanding from what I have seen Admin say in responses is that there is nothing wrong with similar but duplicate is where they delete. As to how I go about it, sort of depends. I really don't mind responding if the discussion starter per se is no longer active. I usually go to the discussions and review what the responses are and if the responses are not really of help and or my response will truly be completely different then I will answer the discussion. I figure if all discussion here are searchable on the net then if I can apply some quality, useful and or helpful response then I go for them. I apply the same type of quality I would with recent discussions to those. I once had a five year member log in because of my response and commented to me. Not sure if the member is still active but it was a total surprise to me. I only wished I could have helped that member back then because the discussion was asking for help and many entered it back then in a joking manner. There were no earnings and or guidelines when the site started so it was almost a free for all. Sad because some members were serious, while others posted nonsense. In your case, I would only revive a discussion if I found my response was different and or added something useful that the current members can benefit from seeing.
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@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Sep 11
I'm pretty sure everyone would have a unique contribution to make on this discussion, or any of the five which are in existence.
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@suspenseful (40326)
• Canada
12 Sep 11
The trouble is that if you answer it from your email, you may not be sure that it is a duplicate until you see it on the my lot page. That is why those who do not use the notify me by email when I-- are at an advantage. They can see whether it is a duplicate or not. Whereas we find out after we have already answered the post and discover that there are two or three others exactly the same.
@bostonphil (4333)
• United States
12 Sep 11
I would just begin a new discussion. I would not bother responding to a discussion that was four or five years old. A lot changes in four or five years. And no matter the topic. I just think that it is time for a new discussion after such a length of time. A new beginning!
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@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Sep 11
That's how you and I might think, but, ultimately, it's what admins thinks that determines whether that's the thing to do.
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• United States
12 Sep 11
Why would administrators have a problem with beginning a new and fresh discussion when the last discussion on the subject was four years ago? Four years is a long time.
• United States
12 Sep 11
I have had a few of my old discussion resurrected which is always a pleasant surprise. As far a opening a new discussion that is similar (but not identical) to an old discussion. I have no qualms about opening a new one giving a new update or slant on the older similar topic. I have done this without causing any problems or discussion deletions.
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@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Sep 11
That's good to know because I just did that, though I was careful not to duplicate the old topics on the subject.
@Octav1 (1421)
• Romania
12 Sep 11
I think that happens because Mylot's admin is human, too. He can't see all the duplicate discussions unless somebody is helping him. We are supposed to report duplicate discussions. And we shouldn't participate in such discussions so that the discussion starter won't be encouraged to repeat the mistake.
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@suspenseful (40326)
• Canada
12 Sep 11
It is up to the one who made the duplicates to report them. I think muh of them has to do with the slowness of loading an that the person did not believe his discussion went through so he either copied the discussion and put that through. More then likely it would be the first dissuasion or else the one with the most responses since the original poster is going to ask administrant to take off the ones that have only one or two or zero responses.
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@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Sep 11
These weren't those kind of duplicates. They were started by different people with the same topics showing at the top. What would make the most sense is if admin would delete all those old discussions so we could start fresh.
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@suspenseful (40326)
• Canada
13 Sep 11
Well if they were to delete these discussions they would have to delete the monies made on them. And also depends on the friends of the ones who started these discussions. For instance, if you only reply by email and use the notify, and do not get on the whole my lot, you may be unable to see the other discussions. Another thing, is that there is no new thing under the sun so it is bound to happen that someone may write something smilier or identical but in different words then someone else. What wold happen is that if you delete certain similar discussions, pretty soon there will be no discussions here except for the silly ones, because really to give an example, every summer there are children left in van, parents who get drunk, babysitters who do not show up, pit bulls who maul babies, people who get cancer, and all the horrible things that come up in life.
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@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
13 Sep 11
On some of these discussions they would have to take away earnings already paid, since everyone who had participated in the discussion is no longer active or there at all.
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@allknowing (54663)
• India
12 Sep 11
The risk of duplicate topics getting deleted is always there. I would therefore not attempt to respond to any of them. There is plenty of uncomplicated fish in the ocean. Go for them bagarad!
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@allknowing (54663)
• India
12 Sep 11
I just saw one discussion which is 5 years old and this guy has only 23 points! http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/700868.aspx
@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Sep 11
The dilemma is that answering any old discussion that's a duplicate might be reported, but so might starting a new one. Evidently when myLot was younger, the duplicates were not being reoved as they are today. I do hope admin will check in on this discussion. It's tough to start a discussion that friends respond to and then have it deleted for duplication because then not only you, but also your friends, suffer for it. It's tricky enough to avoid discussions that might be construed as polls or yes or no questions when they really aren't
@allknowing (54663)
• India
13 Sep 11
All of us are sailing in the same boat. I don't think there is a single user here who has not had deletions to their credit!
@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
30 Apr 12
I am experiencing the same problem. As a newcomer to mylot (I've been here only one week)I have been trying to abide by the rules and guidelines. There are many times I thought of starting a new topic only to find that when I did a search it had already been discussed, sometimes more than once. As you said, a lot of the discussions had been started 3 or even 5 or 6 years ago. So, what to do? Respond to an old one? If so, which old one? In the week that I have been on here I have started very few discussions for that reason alone. I mostly have been responding to discussions instead and still have had 3 responses deleted because the discussion was a duplicate. I had the same thought as you in that discussions started over a certain amount of time ago should get deleted by admin. Also what are the guidelines for determining a duplicate discussion? Some questions/discussions are worded differently but essentially are asking the same thing as others. Is it ok to ask the same question or start a duplicate discussion as long as it is worded differently than a previous one? This is an issue that should be addressed.
@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
2 May 12
What I often do is try to see if the person who started the discussion is still active, especially if there is more than one old discussion. It's not quite as much fun to respond if no one is likely to be around to interact with your comment. If the person who started the discussion is still around, and the discussion is essentially the same thing I wanted to discuss, I will respond to the old discussion.
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@Suebee (2013)
• Canada
2 May 12
Good idea. It may take a bit more time but yes, I totally agree. That way you are replying to something that interests you but you don't feel as though you are talking to yourself.
@inertia4 (26286)
• United States
13 Sep 11
How about this. Lets say you want to start a discussion that you found to be a duplicate and extremely old. And that the users are not active for 5 years. How about, contacting Admin and letting them know that the user and the discussion is so old, and you think that that one should be deleted. And if they agree, they will remove it. Now, you will be free to post the discussion that you want to.
@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
13 Sep 11
All four discussions? I'm more likely to ask which one I dare answer without having it be said I duplicated.
@inertia4 (26286)
• United States
14 Sep 11
Well, you do only have two real options. One, don't bother and two, answer them anyway. Look, there are many discussions here in MyLot and if I post a discussion that gets flagged as a duplicate, how was I to know? I will do a search and if I do find a discussion that very similar to the one I want to start, I will change it up to be different while still getting my point across. I guess thats the best we could do. After all, we are not going to read every single discussion ever posted on MyLot.
@KrauseHome (32313)
• United States
30 Apr 12
Well, there are so many discussions being started here all the time, you never know if anything is going to be a duplicate or not, and many times these might even be from people that are no longer here. Personally for me, it is always something I feel might be worth taking a chance. Especially if it is from a friend of mine here. Since you get paid for responding no matter when the start date, it is always worth it to try.
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@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
2 May 12
If a similar discussion has been started my one of my friends who is still here, I will definitely respond to that old one rather than starting something new. But if the discussion is over two years old, I will see if the one who started it is still here before I reply.
@drannhh (15003)
• United States
17 Mar 12
Normally I would not have time to look to see if there were duplicate discussions before responding to one. If a thought occurred to me I would just jump in. If I did look down to the bottom of the page and saw a listing of near identical ones, that might give me pause. Then I would choose either the first or the most interesting in case there was a qualitative difference. I have sometimes done a search before starting my own discussion and not found any matches, and then after posting it learned that others posted on the same subject prior to me. It happens.
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@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
17 Mar 12
Those searches we do before starting a discussion often don't uncover everything because the discussion may have different labels than the one we searched for. I haven't been starting many new discussions lately because I've been too busy writing entries in the latest HubPages contest.
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• United States
12 Sep 11
Maybe, if you carefully word the topic, it might not be considered a duplicate. I would also pm the administrators and see what their thoughts are. I am curious to see why topic you are going to start.
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@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Sep 11
It's a secret until I start it, if I do, but it's one everyone will have a contribution to make, since it's quite universal in appeal.
@GreenMoo (11842)
12 Sep 11
If the discussions were that old I don't think I would be overly worried about myLot removing them as duplicates. I think eventually all discussions but current events will be duplicated to some extent or another.
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@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Sep 11
My guess is they might be more likely to remove mine if I started a new one -- even if the old ones have a last response four or five years ago.
@gk655321 (236)
12 Sep 11
I don't know. That's a toughy but I'd probably check out whether or not the user was still active and whichever seems to be the most active I'd respond to that one.
@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Sep 11
On one such old discussion, no one in the discussion was still active.
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
12 Sep 11
It's very hard not to get duplicates....for me I am only on here for a little while in the afternoon except for the mornings of my day off...like this morning. I don't have time to research and see if a discussion is a duplicate....and if the discussion is too old and I see low numbers next to the person that started it I won't answer it....because they probably aren't here anymore.
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@carmelanirel (21108)
• United States
12 Sep 11
I think what stine says, "answering a 5 year old discussion where the last answer was also years ago and the topic starter is not active anymore any might have only 1 point." is something to consider, especially the part where the starter is no longer active, because you won't get a reply back. But if I found one where the starter is active and I really want to add my two cents in, I will choose that one..
@bagarad (7647)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Sep 11
Well, I'll just try to find a different discussion to start until I can decide what to do about this topic I have in mind.
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• United States
12 Sep 11
@Stine, why because I mentioned you here or on my FB status the other day??? @bagarad, so none of the users are active right now? Maybe you can PM Diana, if she is your friend, or even Alice/Alex and ask if you can start this post if you make changes to the main topic?
• Indonesia
13 Sep 11
hi, bagarad... same experience with you, this last days I found many duplicated discussion with same repeated topic.based on experience I would not response one of them.my reasons : 1.discussion might be deleted soon -usually the recent discussion 2.if I response old discussion, there's no guarantee I will get response back since the user started may have leave it and no longer active 3. I'm already boring before give my response to duplicate discussion when I find duplicate actually I just leave it and not too pay attention to that discussion so I will not find detail about how long the discussion have been or does the user still longer active or not.for me duplicate is not interesting anymore