Occupy Wall Street on September 17!

@dragon54u (31352)
United States
September 16, 2011 8:15am CST
I'm not sure who is backing this but there is a call for 20,000 people to camp out for months on Wall Street. I guess the idea is to shut it down, I'm not sure from their website. They say they want to return control of the U.S. to individuals, which is admirable in my opinion. But why Wall Street? Why not the White House? Or Congress? That's where all the oppression comes from, Washington! You know, people have some good ideas but they really are confused as to who our enemies are. What do you think of this movement? Here is a link to the site so that you can see what it is all about: https://occupywallst.org/
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@lampar (7597)
• United States
16 Sep 11
The orginizer must have too much free time in his hand, i would rather spending my time working for a living than trying to disrupt Wall Street or shut it down, not all the wall street firms and corporations are run by crook and thug, neither is the fact that not all the senators and congressmen are occupying congress. May be the movement is funded and founded by foreign money and terror connected individual that fixated on bringing down U.S economic life line, intended to shut down all the commercial activities and financial market in the nation. You can't be too surprise if some local movement and individual that are controlled by foreign government or terror groups are planning to further alienate U.S from the rest of the world's economy stage.
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@dragon54u (31352)
• United States
16 Sep 11
I think this movement is playing on the ignorance and resentment of people that don't have what they want. The investors in this country are who grease the wheels of the economy. Many people depend on investments so they won't be a burden to their families or their government. Investments fund businesses that employ people. This is another case of playing the "have nots" against the "haves", another way to wage class warfare. I would not be surprised if it was backed by a foreign country but it's more likely to be backed by U.S. citizens that want to tear the country down so it can be built up to their own preferences.
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• United States
17 Sep 11
The Illuminatis are said to have blue blood and participate in a new world order, staging how they want the rest of the blue bloods to live, creating a subhuman species - the poor class. However, people in the states call progressives with a good vocabulary elitists, because they can read a book.
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@KrauseHome (33862)
• United States
17 Sep 11
Personally since many people have been told their will be NO RETIREMENT or Social Security, Medicare, etc. when they retire many people have invested a lot of their time and money into Wall Street and into Stocks and bonds. The big problem becomes when many of these stocks continue to loose big money while the Big people in these companies continues to see Big bonus's while the average person suffers. Maybe they are feeling if they react in this way than somehow there eventually can be some sort of a change for the better?
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@dragon54u (31352)
• United States
17 Sep 11
Maybe some of the people who show up feel that they are fighting something bigger--see the person's response below yours. But most of these people probably are losers who don't save money, who buy things they can't afford and resent those who have the the good sense to manage their money so that they are in a better financial place. These people feel they are entitled to more than they deserve. They think that everyone should be able to live the lifestyle of the rich without working for it. I don't respect most of these people.
• United States
18 Sep 11
I think they are protesting in the right place. Wall street is where Washington gets all of their marching orders, our politicians do what their bosses tell them, and their real bosses are the ones that are making sure they have funding for the next election.
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@dragon54u (31352)
• United States
19 Sep 11
You and I agree a bit there. Although I think that Wall Street is in turn controlled by financiers we will never know by name. They remain anonymous but play with world finances and politics like a chess game. We might possibly be able to take the power back if we would be willing to make some sacrifices but demonstrations only make them laugh. The money is only part of the problem. We've become a nation divided as to race, politics, religion and age. Our attention is focused on celebrities, the latest music, the hot new cars coming out and away from our families, education and children. We have turned into useful idiots, voting for whoever sounds like they'll give us the most stuff.
• United States
19 Sep 11
You are correct that the vast majority of Americans are ill informed, and want to stay that way until it effects their lives. It is almost comical how people only care about politics when it hurts them. If they would just pay attention to what is going on in the world they would know why the country is in the situation it is in today. But, they are part of the problem, and both parties have taken advantage of it. They play them like idiots, and it works.
• United States
20 Sep 11
I agree on the level of corruption and of money controlling politics and the country. But I think it's backwards. The politicians are the bosses of Wall Street, not the other way around. Politicians are just crafty and slimy enough to hide their dollar signs behind more dollar signs. And we inevitably chase, point and burn the most dollar signs. That would be the high-powered CEO taking more blame than the corrupt Senator, but the politician sets the law and basically has more control. A politician crossing a rich and powerful business mogul might mean less funding, but that mogul crossing a politician might mean no business. So I think it's the politicians who wear the pants in this relationship. They're just fantastic at seeming to be the puppets instead of the ones pulling the strings.
@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
17 Sep 11
Sorry Dragon, I missed your Post and posted something similar to yours a few minutes ago...I did not mean to step on your claws... Here is my link to their website if you want to read the tweets: USDayofRage.org. Some of the tweets are kind of interesting. It lets you know that a lot of the folks involved are not Americans, but islamic. I have been watching the preparations for this event on PA websites for weeks and on ACORN websites for months. They did try to take over wall street and even gloated over closing wall street...this tells me that non-Americans were involved as we all know that Wall Street IS closed on Saturday. NYPD were waiting for them with water cannons according to the tweets. I have not found any news yet on American channels, but will continue to hope that the sensors will allow it through.
@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
17 Sep 11
Sorry, misspelled censor.
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@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
17 Sep 11
Here is a link to a live feed to what is happening in NYC. I got the link from Al-Jazeera, the only news media that is reporting anything about this topic. Ours is all censored. http://anonops.blogspot.com/ This was a good link when I watched it. I do not know how long it will last. There is a commentator with a foreign accent and other folks speaking foreign languages around him. I still say that this is not an American affair.
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@dragon54u (31352)
• United States
18 Sep 11
No worries, Adoniah! I've done the same thing--I searched myLot for a subject, came up with nothing and yet when I post my discussion I see 1 or more of the same that others have started! I say, the more the merrier! I'm not at all surprised at non-Americans being involved. If we are toppled--which we pretty nearly are, we're hanging by our fingernails--it makes it easier to bring others into compliance. I wish our soldiers were here at home instead of overseas. I'll go visit your discussion!
@uath13 (8227)
• United States
16 Sep 11
So are locked up protestors in prison considered amoung the unemployed? If not thats about the only way this is going to help.
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@dragon54u (31352)
• United States
16 Sep 11
It might make Sunday an interesting day but that's about all I can see constructive about it. They aren't even able to articulate exactly what they want or the results they're looking for. On the other hand they want 20,000 people and I'm sure there are enough unemployed in New York to easily fill that quota.
@uath13 (8227)
• United States
16 Sep 11
Tell them to bring their panhandling cups. They can bang them against the cell bars.
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@matersfish (6311)
• United States
16 Sep 11
I caught this story two weeks ago on Red Eye. I definitely had a LMAO moment when hearing the story. Firstly, the entire concept was hilarious. They just want to protest. They didn't know what they were going to protest. They were holding polls - pick the cause we should rally for once there! Secondly, they're running sensitivity training courses for anyone who wants to protest!!!! Why Wall Street indeed. I think Van Jones said it best: "Give them the wealth!" That's what's at the heart of these types of protests. The wealth redistribution folks claim to be for the people. And they are. But their idea of returning "control to individuals" is simply to put free money in the hands of the same people who are at this very moment not coming up with new ideas and not opening businesses and not attempting to create wealth. But my hat's off to the folks if they can get out there and peacefully protest. I support peaceful gatherings no matter what they're about (to a limit). But I have a sneaking suspicion that there's gonna be some union-type slashing and bashing and trashing and maybe some young-punk-style fires being set.
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@dragon54u (31352)
• United States
16 Sep 11
I'm never up late enough to catch Red Eye but I really like the host, he's a funny guy with a quick mind. I support peaceful protests, too, but I'm sure that if this one happens, something will get violent because of all the class warfare that's whipping them up. In just short of 3 years the country has been gradually encouraged to hate the wealthy but nobody can give a good reason for it, they just want to sit on the arses and have money given to them. I'll watch for news of this event, it should be interesting if they can get anyone to go.
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• Pamplona, Spain
20 Feb 12
Hiya dragon, Cannot really understand their reasons for wanting to try to shut it down when there are lots of things involved that has helped everyone to get to the situation they might be in. We have had loads of protestors here camping out I am not entirely sure what the were trying to do either. Some seemed to be in favour of something and some in favour of another. Actually the really worst off People cannot afford to go to those Meetings as they call them so it does make you wonder. So Wall Street as you see is not the only target we have had loads of them here but they have come to nothing but disruption and making a mess of the City Centres. Suppose some of them must be genuine but others not. How on earth do we tell which from which?xxx