"Spanish Lasagna" uh are you sure? Okay if you say so"

@Hatley (164638)
Garden Grove, California
October 8, 2011 2:15pm CST
Just had lunch the main entree ac cording to the printed menu in the hall read "Spanish Lasagna" with fried beans.okay but when I went to eat it on the outside it looked like lasagna but when I ate a bite the noodle was tasting like cornmeal.uh huh corn tortilla strips with chicken and lots of cheese and tomato sauce flavored with enchilada flavoring okay an enchilada by any other name still in my estimation turns out to be an enchilada.. to me lasagna is a pasta dish with definite italian flavoring and for me I like some garlic in the mis. Mixing Italian with Mexican does that tease your appetite fellow mylotters? Your take, it was edible but I felt sort of cheated as something was missing in my 'Spanish lasgna". Could not quite put my finger on it.oh it was covered with sour cream? thats not a lasgna and never will be lol.
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• United States
8 Oct 11
Oh my you know the ole saying that you can dress up someone and make them look like they have changed, but you can't take the inner person out of the them. Same applies here where no matter how you stack up the layers of corn tortillas and it is still a tortilla. Lasagna must have layers of noodles and meat in order for it to be considered lasagna. You add beans to it and you won't be able to fool a true lasagna eater. I am trying to picture your lunch and all I can think of is a fiesta type meal which is by far from Italian. I guess someone wanted to be a bit creative which is fine but please don't call it Italian. This does not tease my appetite and in fact I do make a Spanish type lasagna, with the same type of Italian style only I brown and season the meat with my Puerto Rican (sofrito) herbs to give the palette a wonderful taste combination.
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Oct 11
hi hardworkinggurl that sound delicious with your Puerto Rican herbs.I really was sort of disappointed in that I love real Italian lasagna and I am also fond of enchiladas but never ever mix corn tortillas in my lasagna please. lol It was not too bad but something was missing, herbs I think oh the chicken' I was used to crumbled well cooked hamburger not chicken in my lasagna, the chicken belonging to the enchiladas we usually have.They do not use as much herbs as I am used to using when IU 'did my own coo king. my son bless him had bought a huge supply of all sorts of herbs so I could flavor my cooking without ev er using salt as I have high blood pressure.
@owlwings (39404)
• Cambridge, England
8 Oct 11
I suppose that you have to give full marks to the cook for inventiveness but it seems he needs to be a little more careful with his use of English (and knowledge of Italian ... 'lasagna' means one sheet of pasta in Italian and the dish is always called 'lasagne' in the plural!). What you describe might have been termed Mexican but Spanish it is NOT! I suspect that, actually, he started out to make enchiladas but then gave up when he realised that it was going to take too long to roll that many enchiladas and just threw everything into a dish and baked it in the oven. I have come across many dishes in my time which are NOTHING like the original and, to recognise that, have been dubbed with some very strange and incongruous names. I think that "Spanish Lasagna" probably takes the biscuit.
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@owlwings (39404)
• Cambridge, England
8 Oct 11
'Pomodora' means tomato in Italian. It actually means 'golden apple' because the first tomatoes to arrive in Europe were yellow or maybe orange rather than red. They were also thought to be inedible and used only for table decoration for a long time. Once the Italians discovered that you could actually cook and eat them, Italian cuisine (and Spanish) never looked back!
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Oct 11
hi owlwing I just looked it up and it has tomatoes and basil and garlic and olive oil in it.but I bet that these cooks will put in cheese in the tomato sauce and forget the basil and the garlic and the olive oil too. Oh i am so grateful that they discovered that tomatoes were not just edible but really delicious.what would Italian and Spanish cuisine ever do without them now. lol lol And another plus cooked tomatoes have more of some healthy ingredients in them than just raw. the cooking seems to bring out these good for us antioxidants like lycopene thats proved to keep our hearts healthy. nice when something you really love proves to be very healthy for you. even my favorite dark chocolate has good stuff in it.a nice plus.
@owlwings (39404)
• Cambridge, England
8 Oct 11
I have heard that Mexican food as served in California is called 'Spanish' because it's more colorful than real Mexican food. I have also heard it referred to as 'Mexicali cooking' (because Californians would turn up their noses at real Mexican food if they were served it in a restaurant). A Spaniard might well not know what to do with a Mexican tortilla. The Spanish tortilla is a thick omelette containing potato, green beans, bell peppers and other things ... something totally different. I don't know if Mexicans make paella, either, and, if they do, it is bound to be completely different!
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@carmelanirel (20979)
• United States
8 Oct 11
Mmm, sounds interesting, so much so, that I looked it up and found this: http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1950,157167-253193,00.html It doesn't have the refried beans, but this recipe looks really good to me..
@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 11
hi carm it really was good too b ut it was not italina but very good Mexican. I will check that recipe not that I can do any cooking but I still love to look at recipes in case I ever get out of this place. thanks for the link.
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 11
hi oh that recipe looks really good, but they did not ha ve hardly any of those ingredient at all so they sure were just making enchiladas and calling them lasagna. I feel like copying that recipe and giving it to the cooks as what they put in was not what was in this recipe. had they used that it would have been really good. but as enchilada it was good Mexican fare .Yes I agree had they used those ingredients it really would have b een delicious. what got me was that most people would have most of those ingredients in their kitchen too. it sounds easy to make. o h I miss not cooking.
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• United States
9 Oct 11
Will they do that? Cook something you share? That is awesome, if I were you, I'd search for many recipes for them to make, they may not make it all, but some is better than nothing and the variety will be good..:)
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@petersum (4526)
• United States
8 Oct 11
I can imagine what was going through your mind. Greek food is often a very poor copy of Italian food. Your lunch wasn't even a copy! You can't beat the real thing. Italians do know how to cook tasty dishes!
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Oct 11
hi petersum I was spoiled in that during my marriage years my husband and I took our kids to this Italian restaurant and their food was to die for. you cannot fool me with what we had at lunch as I know what good lasagna is supposed to contain and to taste like. this stuff did not even come close. They always made the 'best food there and way back then they were not costly at all. I would say if they had just labeled this enchiladas then I would not have been disappointed. I like enchiladas and refried beans but they are not an Italian flavored dish not ever.
@owlwings (39404)
• Cambridge, England
8 Oct 11
I wonder if you knew that the Greeks reputedly invented the layered pasta dish which the Italians took and made into lasagne. I can't imagine what it was like, however, before the arrival of tomatoes. Even the Italians seem to think that the name came from the Greek, though they can't decide whether it is from a word meaning 'a flat sheet of pasta or thin, flat unleavened bread (approximately what is called 'tortilla' in Mexico) or from one which referred to the pot in which the dish was cooked. The Greeks do have a dish called Moussaka, which has certain similarities (except that the layers are separated by sliced aubergine instead of pasta) and I gather that the pasta version of this is called Pastitsio but it tends to use tube shaped pasta, thus making it more like that American favourite "Mac'n'cheese".
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@owlwings (39404)
• Cambridge, England
8 Oct 11
That is only because cows come with equal length legs, Mike, so they'd tend to fall off the Greek mountainsides. You can't make ground beef from cows which live up in the air, either.
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@dorannmwin (36698)
• United States
12 Oct 11
Well, I would call it an enchilada if it was me. However, my guess would be that there are people that say that they do not like enchiladas or Mexican food and because of the fact that they are supposed to feed the residents a certain type of menu, they have to come up with all kinds of creative names for dishes so that they can get the residents to eat the different meals. With that said, I guess you should at least consider yourself to be lucky that the food was edible.
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 11
oh yes indeed as an enchilada it was delicious bu t not lagagna at all. corn tortillas strips gave a nice corn mealy taste to it. Yes we have had some dishes that flunked all the way around like their first rendition of chicken pot pie which was just chicken and vegetables in a tasteless cream sauce. tasted like uncooked starch to me yuck,but the new cook makes a great chicken pot pie with a crust to die for and a flavorful vegetable chicken sauce inside that's delicious. what a difference in cooks.
@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 11
typo lagagna should be lasagna
@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Nov 11
one thing though about the chicken pot pie the delicious crust shoots my blood sugar up, too many carbs.
• China
9 Oct 11
It is not too much to say they are unscrupulous merchant."Spanish Lasagna" was plainly written on the menu, unexpectedly they served corn tortilla strips.It is just the same with a saying known for everyone here,"hang up a sheep's head and sell dogmeat."This infringed on consumer's rights,You could have complained about them to relevant agencies,according to reason.
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 11
hi changjiangzhibin I live in a retirement center and although we do pay for room and board monthly there's no way we can protest the food they serve us that I know of. its not like when you go to a restaurant and the food is bad you could get a refund. Here they pretty much are the boss when it comes to food. It was not inedible'it just was not what it was la beled to be. lol lol[e
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• China
10 Oct 11
Oh! I see.I mistook them for restaurant.That is to say,You only take what they serve in the retirement center .In fact ,there was no need for them to call it by the fine-sounding name of Spanish Lasagna,It would be better to call a spade a spade.
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Nov 11
hi chang yes its usually a clue when they get a mixed up title for food on the menu that its not going to taste all that great so I often order a ham and cheese sandwich.
@louievill (18948)
• Philippines
8 Oct 11
Looks like somebody got creative and attempted to create a Tex-Mexecanized Italian dish. I could understand your fine discriminating taste Miss Hately especially if you have been used to real authentic fine Italian cuisine before, your palate would simply reject a thing like that. It's like Americanized or Filipinized Chinese cooking, it's soso, good enough but a far cry from the real thing, that is if you know what Authentic and original Chinese cooking is all about LOL. I really think the bean and pasta combination is bad cooking sense cause both are starchy already so it's not really advisable to mix them together.Sour cream? Are you telling me they substituted sour cream for white sauce? hahaha, Oh authentic Italian is very expensive in our country and very few people have really ever tasted one, much less go to an Italian restaurant.
@louievill (18948)
• Philippines
9 Oct 11
oh sorry I misspelled your name friend, I just got used to always typing ly after an e as in "lately", most English words are written that way rather than the reverse so it sort of becomes " matic " to me . Yeah Clark is very common family name, good thing Superman chose it to be he's first name instead when he went to Earth
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 11
oh thats right he was the mild mannered newsreporter Clark Kent lol and wasnt there a Lois that was sort of stuck on him too?
@JenInTN (27565)
• United States
13 Oct 11
That is quite a mixture of food culture. I would try it but it doesn't sound like lasagna to me either. Maybe we could call it enchilada pie..lol.
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Nov 11
hi jenintn yes that sounds like a good name for it and it was really delicious . maybe they can make it again and call it enchilada pie instead. I noticed most people did eat it.
@mentalward (14695)
• United States
10 Oct 11
I would have the same problem you're having with it, Hatley. Lasagna is lasagna and it is and always will be an Italian dish, dagnabit! They've done that with pizza, too. I can't handle all these specialty pizzas, some of which don't even have pizza sauce! They AREN'T pizzas! They're totally different things only put on a pizza crust so they call them pizzas. Hmmph! I've noticed more Spanish-type things being introduced into our organized, established cuisine. They are completely different foods so they should have completely different names and stop trying to pass them off as something like what we've always known. I've even seen ICE CREAM WITH JALEPENOS in them!!! That is so totally wrong on so many different levels my brain doesn't even want to try to process it. Ice cream with hot peppers??? NO WAY! I'm afraid that one day in the not-so-distant future every state in the US will be renamed "New Mexico" and Mexico will be renamed "Old Mexico." When my stepfather was very sick with congestive heart failure, I tried to give him a chuckle as often as I could to pick up his spirits a bit. I told this short joke to him and had him laughing hard: "A study was done among all Mexican people. It was found that 50% of them wanted to come to the United States. The other 50% were already here." Yep, we even have a completely Spanish (Mexican) aisle in the grocery store I shop in. I'm talking totally Spanish written on every package with NO English at all! Won't be long. Maybe we should all move to Mexico since it should be pretty vacant by now.
@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 11
hi he haha ohmy I loved it best laugh I ha ve had today. we hav e a Mexican aisle in my favorite grocery store too. all the cooks here are Mexican and what they do to Italian dishes is very sad but oh their own cuisine is just great. lucky I do like most Mexican dishes except not with hot pepper s in them . they do draw that line here thank goodness. we have so many illegal Mexicans here in the US I wonder any are left in Mexico at all. y es might work move to Mexico as most are already here anyway.I am a diabetic and my hmo pays for my diabetic supplies the literature that comes with my test strips has two sides one is written in E nglish the other is all in Spanish lol lol
@bunnybon7 (36901)
• Holiday, Florida
10 Oct 11
oh my lord. thats a trip. some way of introducing a new dish, huh. they should have explained the ingredients anyway. since you are diabetic and have to watch what you eat. but i guess if you figured it was enchilada tasting and looking and you like them. its ok. its strange tho.
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Nov 11
hi bunnybon yes I checked my blood sugar and it had enough protein to keep my blood sugar down. I hate it when they fix pork in a sandwich as barbeque because they use supersweet sauce that tastes fine but it really shoots my blood sugar all to' hell.Odd whem I came here they made it a big point t o tell me they do not do special diabetic diets here yet a third of the people here have diabetes.
@schulzie (4064)
• United States
8 Oct 11
That dish doesn't sound that great to me if you ask me, not with the spices, etc. that you described. And you're right - lasagna is not enchiladas at all. Anyhow, I have always thought of enchiladas as a sort of Mexican lasagna. Any way you look at it lasagna and enchiladas are both a sort of casserole. Have a great day and happy myLotting!!!
@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Oct 11
hi schulzie nope it was not lasagna but enchiladas and with sour cream and refried beans yet. The real difference is that lasgna is made with pasta noodles and cheese and meat in layers with sauce on top while enchiladas have layers of corn tortillas instead and also use tomatoes, cheese and crumbled hamburger.the flavors are vastly different too. the lasagna noodle does not taste like the corn tortilla at all..so they are both casseroles but with vastly different flavors too
@peavey (16822)
• United States
8 Oct 11
How strange! I don't think I would have enjoyed it much, although I like Spanish food and I like (well, love) Italian food. Maybe if you'd closed your eyes and pretended that it was an enchilada? I agree, lasagna is an Italian dish, with Italian noodles and Italian seasonings, otherwise it's not lasagna. That's like calling something beef and barley stew but putting chicken and rice in it.
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@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Oct 11
hi peavey exactly. I like Mexican food and love Italian food even more but that dish is definitely missing the Italian flavor and is really still enchiladas. renaming it does not change the fact'at all. its just an enchilada with the wrong name attached to it. a noodle and a strip of tortilla will never ever taste the same no matter what you name them. what a mess. I love beef and barley stew amd they do have that often here. yes chicken and rice would not be genuine beef barley stew. lol lol
@stephcjh (32327)
• United States
10 Oct 11
I have never tried it before. I have never heard of it. I think I would like to taste it though.
@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 11
hi stephcjh it was not bad at all as an enchilada but fauked as' lasagna completely.lasagna has flat pasta layers with sauce andcheese this used corn tortillas as the layers. not Italian at all but good enchiladas lol lol loll
@Hatley (164638)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Nov 11
typo alert fauled? should have been failed, try it sometime as I' think you wou ld like it too.
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Nov 11
Sounds like an enchilada casserole to me. Maybe they had a marketing guy name it? :D