# Do you think everybody can refer 10 active referrals?

Romania
November 21, 2011 2:20pm CST
I was doing my surfs on easyhits4u and I stopped at one site where it was claimed that we can do 750 dollars a month only using one single site, without investing a dime. Knowing that Donkeymails is an Aurora site, I was skeptical when I saw the title. But then in the article it was said that we need only to refer 10 people, and those 10 people need to refer 10 people each, as we earn on 10 levels. So if this goes down on 10 levels, meaning that every referred person can refer 10 active people, it will generate us 750 dollar per month, with around 15 minutes of work per day. What are your views on this? Can this be possible? Do you think everybody is able to refer 10 active referrals?
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16 responses
@owlwings (37266)
• Cambridge, England
21 Nov 11
The math for this kind of thing is all too common and easy to read. Have you any idea how hard it is to get even 5 good referrals? Those who haven't tried might think that it's relatively easy (and if you can get 5, then surely it's not too difficult to get 10, is it?). WRONG! Now you are expected to believe that ALL of your 10 referrals will also get 10 referrals (so far, if everyone does, you have 1+10+100 people involved). The number of unique people involved (remember that nobody can be a referral twice) if you have a referral system that pays to 10 levels is: 10^0 + 10^1 + 10^2 ... + 10^10 = 11,111,111,111 ... over 11 billion people! I don't think it's even necessary to quote the total population of the world for you to see that this is patently ridiculous and completely unattainable. Even Facebook has only 800 million members.
• Romania
21 Nov 11
That is true, I haven't even thought about it. The thing is that it has a referral system of 5 levels, which involve 11,111 people. It is a large number of people, but that is why I was asking this question: let's say we refer those 10 persons from different countries and they do the same, maybe then can be obtained. It is almost impossible, but we can play we the thought, can't we?
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
21 Nov 11
It`s ok i don`t have to make those money tomorrow , i can wait a little and it`s not such a big number
• Romania
21 Nov 11
@iuliu: That was a good one, I enjoyed it a lot @ owlwings: Did I mess up my calculation again? I guess I have calculated the first person as a level also, which was wrong. You are right, this is only a dream, I don't know why I haven't thought about it more. But at least, somebody put me back on the right track.
@sajeevking (5017)
• Mumbai, India
24 Nov 11
I guess that's not possible but yeah i have seen many member fill all the level with referral but not each of there referral exact same 10 member for example in clixsense one member have lots of active referrals and his earning is quite good he has active referrals in all level my stats in clixsense i have 69 referral and 11 are active only one of them has referred 5 member till now all other are just like stones but if everyone of every referral i ever able to refer 10 active referrals each then i guess that's possible but donkeymails is a very slow site its legit but very slow if the article writer would have mention clixsense and all 10 referral are upgraded member then i would have believe him but for donkeymails i think not possible
• Romania
24 Nov 11
Owlwings made a very good calculus and that resulted that we need more than 100000 different people to fill all the levels with 10 people, so then I guess it would bring us so much money. BTW, how did you manage to get so many refs on clixsense?
• Mumbai, India
25 Nov 11
i added some of my friends, posted my link on different site, promoted it on downline builder site that's all i don't thing i have many referral there need to find even more as only few of them are active there
• Romania
25 Nov 11
I see. Well, my friends are not interested in this kind of earnings, so I cannot make them my referrals. I have lots of friends, and if they would all join under me on at least 12-15 sites, then I would make a lot of money per month. But unfortunately, they are not interested in this.
@Sanitary (3969)
• Singapore
22 Nov 11
That's what we called Multi Level earnings and it's not easy. It's easier if u are the pioneer of the site, or if the site is new. If not by time u try to get 10 active referrals, majority of them would have been under others. I would say this method is possible, but u have to be very very patient in waiting. It's even worse if u meet people who are supposed to be your referrals, only to delete your name upon the registering page, making u lose one referral over nothing.
• Romania
22 Nov 11
Yes, this can be called a MLM also, and it is very difficult to make this work. We need marketing knowledge and proper tools to make this things work. I don't understand why do people delete the referrers name when registering, but I am sure that this happened to me also.
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@Sanitary (3969)
• Singapore
24 Nov 11
Not only marketing knowledge and proper tools, but time factor as well. Imagine if we are the 1000th member in that site, we have to find 10 active refferals, among the rest of what is available in the world of online earnings. It may sound easy, but with 10 more referrals under the 10 we recruited, it's actually another 100 more. In order to earn the \$750 per month, we actually need 1000 member under us to work, and is that possible?
• Romania
24 Nov 11
Actually, we need 100000 to make this work. Because on every person needs 10 person, so it is very hard, practically impossible, especially for us.
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@Dymo75 (340)
• New Zealand
21 Nov 11
Ha! If anyone could do it, then seek.com would go out of business, and we'd all be filthy stinkin' rich. Well maybe not, but if I had 10 referrals and they each had 10 each, then there's gonna be some poor fella at the bottom who'll have no referrals at all!
• Romania
22 Nov 11
The poor fella at the bottom would have to work as hard as the person who is at the top to make 10 refs. It stops only when there are no more people who could join the site. But it is practically impossible, without proper marketing knowledge to get so many refs.
@Dymo75 (340)
• New Zealand
23 Nov 11
Well I think sooner or later, there'll be no one left to refer, although what with overpopulation, it might work out... :)
• Romania
25 Nov 11
This is a funny way to say that nothing is impossible, although it is
• India
21 Nov 11
Looks like scam but if it is ain't then a good deal. You know what my friend rappeter, in this whole online money making job the most hard part is getting referrals. It is really very hard to find them so, getting 10 referrals will be not easy though. If you have any trick or something then you might can.
• Romania
21 Nov 11
No, the site which I am talking about is not a scam, it is legit for 8 years now I believe, so this comes out of the question. What I wanted to know is do you think that everybody can refer 10 active referrals, to see what the personal experience of the members from here is. Because it would be a very good thing to find somebody to give us some tips, maybe we could implement this and make some serious money with less work.
• Romania
21 Nov 11
I also think it is impossible for me to get 10 active refs. As for nominimum, you will get paid, but the waiting time is much more longer than on the other sites.
• United States
22 Nov 11
The problem is when you refer people they don't seem to be too active there where you refer them. You have to be active anywhere to earn. That is why I just really don't bother with it anymore.
• Romania
22 Nov 11
There are only a few sites which can earn us money passively. At least, I don't really know about them. It is hard, that's true, but if somebody wants more money, needs more work than others. I have to give it a try, maybe I will be able to get some active refs and even if I won't get rich, more money would be good.
@boyuancy (1709)
• India
22 Nov 11
What you are talking of is the concept of network marketing. It is just being used in the sense of referrals.
• Romania
22 Nov 11
Yes, this is what I am talking about. Are you good at getting refs?
@boyuancy (1709)
• India
22 Nov 11
Yes I think one can make such amazing money using affiliate networks. I found one such network which pays like a dream. I am joining it and also will feature it on my blog. More people deserve to know.
• Romania
22 Nov 11
Can you give me some info about what you have discovered? It would be nice to make more money.
@khithi17 (763)
• Philippines
22 Nov 11
It's really hard to get referrals, especially if your target is 10 of them. Getting only one is hard enough, what more if you need 10 right!? but I think it is possible to get 10 referrals if you have a lot of friends who is interested in these kinds of money making stuff online. On the other hand, many sites promises the same thing to their members. And that is if and only if they get 10 referrals they can earn this or that amount of money with them. But what if you don't have a lot of referrals or you don't have any referrals at all? they never say anything about that. Not everyone can get referrals. It's hard. I think it's better if they also promise good things to you even without referrals.
• Romania
22 Nov 11
This claim was made in an article made by a user of Donkeymails, not by Donkeymails. It is very difficult to make referrals, I am aware of that, but maybe with the proper marketing tools it is possible. Maybe I will have to concentrate on less sites and maybe I will be able to get 10 active refs on those sites, which would make me a nice amount of money.
• United States
22 Nov 11
The referral downline system will never work like that! And getting 10 referrals, especially active ones, in incredibly hard. Imagine all 10 of the referrals you obtain, and think about how much of your time you spent gathering those referrals. Now you have to expect the same time you spent, for each on of those referrals to obtain 10 more! It's impossible because some users don't even obtain referrals and some aren't even active! Its never as easy as the site projects it, and getting an active downline who also obtain an active downline bs as a very small probability versus getting an inactive downline with no referrals further obtained.
• Romania
22 Nov 11
Yes, to get referrals we need money and if they get inactive, it was wasted time. I think I made a mistake, I wasn't explicit enough in my discussion. This information which I presented was not made by Donkeymails, but a user who made an article about this possibility. But I guess you are right, it is practically impossible to get many active refs and then them to get active refs and so on.
@jtj_hello (627)
• Philippines
22 Nov 11
That is probably another scam. It's like a pyramid type of network and you'll earn out of your referral and your referral's referral and so on. If you will think of it, it's unbelieveable and there are a lot of scams like that online. Be vigilant on this kind of website and make sure to read reviews about it prior to joining. Think safe.
• Romania
22 Nov 11
I guess I wasn't very explicit in my discussion. Donkeymail didn't claimed this, I have found an article which claimed that this can be done on Donkeymails. As for the legit aspect, I can assure you that Donkeymails is online and legit since 2005, so they will pay. But we need plenty of referrals and them also so that our earnings would go up.
@13tyates (1611)
• United States
22 Nov 11
Donkey Mails is not a scam as far as them paying. I have used them for a long time and always make some with them. I have a few referrals and I make a little with them. Nothing even close to that amount though. I have a feeling that 750 dollar figure is if all things are perfect and working correctly. In a real world that will never happen. So maybe they will actually be able to do this I do not think in a real world situation this would be possible. If it would happen I would be completely amazed!
• Romania
22 Nov 11
Maybe somebody would need to get 100 refs and then maybe some of them would also make some refs and that would generate more to the top sponsor. I guess this can be done only with very good marketing knowledge and tools.
• United States
21 Nov 11
Nope, I do not believe that everyone is able to get 10 referrals.. If that was true then I would have 10 working referrals in all the programs I have signed up for...lol Those sites I totally stay away from, run from.. The only people in these programs that make any money are the first couple of layers, after that.. your luck
• Romania
22 Nov 11
I didn't got 10 active referrals neither, but honestly I haven't worked hard for that. To get customers( referrals in our case) we need a good marketing job, and I guess most of us lack of good marketing abilities.
@alilin28 (1532)
• Uruguay
21 Nov 11
mmm... to be honest, I dont waste my money on this... I dont know if is it possible or not. I prefer to do the aunt job, making my money in my own. May be it would be possible, if you have many friends and this friends have too, but it would be difficult.. I dont know..have a nice day..
• Romania
22 Nov 11
I am not saying anything about spending money, only time and hard work. But as calculated above by owlwings, it is practically impossible to make so many referrals on 5 level.
• Pamplona, Spain
20 Feb 12
Hiya rapp, When I was surfing on that traffic exchange I saw similar pages it was not Donkey Mails that do pay not a fortune but they do pay. Suppose if you do enough and work really hard at that you might be able to get it all going and make it last for a while. Problem is when the Referrals drop out so you have to go back and get some more. I noticed that one of them was selling a Book of information on how to make 750 Dollars a Month and then selling his information as to how to. Perhaps it can be done but you would need a good part of the Day to dedicate to build all that up. Buying Referrals might be a good idea just to start it all off. Don´t really know rapp I know there are a few lucky People that have managed to make a bit of cash off this system. Then there was another Girl that had a similar page but giving the information free and it seemed equally as workable. I don´t surf this Traffic Exchange at the moment as my ADSL is so dreadfully slow and the exchange is so slow but they do pay very well but again you have to be there a good few hours to earn anything like what you might need. Have you tried those systems then? Hope they did work and you were and still are able to make cash. Have admiration for People like that brave enough to try it all out at least. Again I don´t have the links right now as they are in my notepad and also I don´t know if they still exist as such as you know those splash pages don´t last forever do they? Happy earnings to you then.xxx
@ebuscat (5949)
• Philippines
22 Nov 11
For me yes if they have a friends about 10 then want to do what your job is why not you can reach that way.