House arrest or Detention Cell

@jpso138 (7869)
Philippines
November 24, 2011 11:50pm CST
Just lately all over the news is the issue of our former president trying to go outside our country for treatment. The Department of justice ordered for an immediate hold of her trip since they are thinking that the reason given is just a ploy to escape from our country. Now, that she was not able to leave the country, she is now in the hospital and as doctors have said is now on recovery and may be allowed to go home. However, a warrant has been issued and she is now under arrest. Now they are asking for a house arrest from the present hospital arrest. I really find it funny and is now thinking that perhaps the Department of Justice was right all along. The Phiilippine Medical Association also confirmed that the procedure our former president wishes to have outside our country can be done here... I think I am now have a clearer picture... there is nothing wrong and perhaps the health reason was just a ploy. So what do you think guys? Lastly, what is your say.. Shall we put her to a detention cell or shall we allow house arrest?
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@Genericbe (1378)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
I agree with you, how it is possible that before, they want to have a medical biopsy outside the country said to be very ill and dangerous LIFE THREATENING CONDITION, contrasting when the Philippine Medical Association was insulted from that reasoning that they are not capable of conducting and specializing such medical procedures in the country , if this is really true? how come she was able to get many surgical procedures at ST.LUKES MEDICAL CENTER, and when the DOJ issued a warrant of arrest to those physicians? and a PNP medical physician conducted a MEDICAL EXAMINATION? how possibly everything in her condition turned out to be NORMAL. VERY SILLY right? IS her medical procedures before are part of their tactics to divert and not to be presenting themselves in the SENATE ?Is this same as GARCI TAPE SCANDAL saying in public " I AM SORRY".. ha ha ha... IN my opinion? she must be putted in house arrest first then after be transferred to a DETENTION CELL for her and their family to feel how it was to be in that life after they have experienced all the manipulation of POWERS, FAME AND GLORY. NOW, WHERE WILL THEY PUT ALL THEIR GRAFTS MONEYS? CAN IT CURE THEIR PRESENT HEALTH CONDITIONS? THEIR RELATED ANOMALIES? THEIR STRESS? I GUESS NONE.. THIS IS A LESSON THAT, BE CONTENTED TO WHAT YOU HAVE IN LIFE AND NOT BE GREEDY. For whatever you do to the least of your brothers will be done unto you.. A moral lesson they should feel sorry about it..IF they have that conscience..
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@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Hi genericbe, you have written what is exactly on my mind. It is quite obvious now as event begin to unfold. Suddenly she is fine. I guess her private doctors have realized the problem they will be in to if ever they continue to say that she should be treated abroad or examined abroad. I think she should be examined by another physician and if proven that she is really ill, then she should be under hospital arrest. If she is well, then she should be in the detention cell. I hope that everyone will learn a lesson out of this as what you have stated above... let is be content and not be greedy.
@eljayo (1107)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Hi! I think if she is still very ill a house arrest would do but if it will be proven that she is not as ill as what her doctors proclaim she should be put in a detention cells. The Philippine government has been unfair all along for not implementing justice and punishment in the right way. Look at Erap , I think he was just pretending to be very sick to avoid detention cell and the government tolerated that, Its time they stand on what should be done and stop tolerating these things.
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@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Yes eljayo. I totally agree with you. The best thing to do perhaps is to have her check by a neutral doctor. We should not just believe from her private doctors. After all, the private doctors are being paid by her and naturally would stand in her behalf. It has been noted that most people who has the money will always find ways to get out of jail. The issue of health has always been used time and time again. Look at Ecleo for example.. his doctors said that he should be allowed to post bail for medical reasons. They said that he is a walking time bomb. Thus, he was allowed to post bail. Now that he is out on bail, he is nowhere to be found.
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@junmae (1592)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Actually, it is hard to believe her anymore. We may think that we are just being manipulated again by her when she declared that she is ill and needed medical assistance outside the country. However, I am against the detention cell imprisonment because she was once our leader and we should give her respect though she had failed us.
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@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Hi junmae, I totally respect your point. Being a former president as you have said, she deserve some respect. But on my viewpoint, I think she does not deserve to be treated like a president. After all, it is not quite clear that she cheated during the election and most likely she would have lost if she did not cheat. So calling here madam president is not even deserving of her and naturally, she does not deserve such special treatment.
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Doctors always have different opinions. I just hope that what the Philippine doctors say that she is recovering is true and not a mistake. If it's true, Arroyo should be arrested and be detained to answer all the allegations. But if she's really ill, I still want her to be healed first even though she committed big mistakes which angers Filipino people. Justice must be served after she is cured.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Yes you are right. Doctors do have different opinions. But from the looks of it, the former president's doctors have already confirmed that she is fit to go home after all the hassles of saying that she needs to be checked outside the country. Well, I guess they do not have any options anymore, after all, there other doctors who can surely check whether the former president's doctor are telling the truth or not. But assuming that she really needs to be treated, then she should be treated.. Otherwise it would be in human for us to just put her in jail. But if she is fit, then surely she should be placed in jail otherwise it would also be unfair for the rest of those who are arrested and are placed behind bars.
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Correct. She should answer all those allegations and attend to her court cases. I hope that the next time choose a president, it should be for the best of the country, not for personal interest. We pay big taxes not for the country's improvement but for the politicians. I hope our government doings will be corrected so that every Filipino will enjoy and not corrupt political leaders.
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@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Well that has been the very thing that I have been thinking long before. If we could only place someone who is good enough and worthy to be president, then there is a chance that our country will improve. But one big problem is, who shall we put in position. I have noticed that whomsoever is there in position will always be tempted to put the money in their pocket rather than put the money in the coffers of our country.
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@SIMPLYD (81562)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
If former president Erap was put in a detention cell, albeit customized to a former president, why can't Gloria Arroyo be made to stay there also? I believe the doctor who said, that her sickness is not life threatening.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
I also agree with you. I think that she should also stay in jail. It is quite clear that her health problem is not that big of an issue already. There is no reason for her to stay in the hospital. The law should not favor anyone. It is about time that we set an example on the equal protection of law as well as equal enforcement of laws.
@SIMPLYD (81562)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Yes, there should be fairness even in the implementation of the law. It's always sickness that they make an alibi for evading trials. Enough is enough! Let them all face the their trials.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
That is exactly the point. We have so many laws yet I have not seen the effect. Simply because the rich are still out there and the poor ones easily are behind bars. So what if they are rich, so what if they have positions before. It's about time that we get serious and show that those who have committed a crime should pay. This will surely create a precedent to all others. Otherwise those in positions will continue with their corruption and enrich their pocket with money that belongs to the people.
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@Hatley (164507)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Nov 11
hi jpso138 why has anyone the right to arrest the former Philippine President just for going out of the country for medicare? that preposterous as here in the US if we want to go to another country to spend less on medical care we can do so..Have you no freedom to go where you wish for medical care? I would not want to live in a country that did not let me go where I wished and prevented me from going out of the country fo medical care . So your people are not free after all. That is really shocking to me. what has she done to be arrested for?
@Hatley (164507)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Nov 11
if she is guilty of corruption then I suppose she must stand trial.But what if she is really ill, should she not be allowed to recover first? I did not realize this was criminal proceedings that were to put her in prison. wish we could do the same for our corrupt government officialsi An the US|A
• Philippines
26 Nov 11
Hi Hatley. The thing about this issue is that may speculate (including the governemnt) that former president is using the medical issue as a reason to escape her arrest. Currently, she has been served with a warrant and stays in a private hospital until the courts are convinced that her condition merits either house arrest or hospital arrest. The government is seriously suspicious that this is a delaying strategy on her part. The argument of the former president is that she is seeking medical check-up overseas but since she was involved in major corruption charges, the public and teh new government is entirely suspicious. Basically, an on-going political drama.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
27 Nov 11
Hi hatley, I personally agree that for as long as there is a need to go abroad for medicare, then why not. It is allowed in our constitution. But the thing is as pointed out by jeanneyvonne, it seems that they are using health reasons just to escape. It is quite obvious now that there was no need for such, as you can see, latest developments show that she is in the road to recovery and her lawyers are now asking for house arrest instead of hospital arrest. I guess, the department of justice is right all along. If they allowed her to leave.. it would be difficult to prosecute her already.
@Queen_11 (308)
• Philippines
10 Dec 11
Have her stay in the VMMC so that her health is closely monitored and subsequently be improved if she is really suffering from something. I find it hard to give Gloria the benefit of the doubt in her current situation.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
26 Dec 11
Hi queen, I guess your answer hits the mark. I failed to reply to your comment right away but currently she is now in VMMC. Just now, I have heard on the news that the GMA camp is asking for a reconsideration and is hoping to be granted bail. Well, whatever the case maybe, I hope that she will get will and I hope that justice will be delivered fairly so that once and for all, we can move on and make our country better.
@rsa101 (14917)
• Quezon City, Philippines
29 Nov 11
Looks like they are just trying to get some sympathy from the public doing this. I think that her health reasons may looked valid to the eyes of some but is not at all very convincing to the many. Well I am for house arrest since she was our former president so I think we should give her the courtesy of being a different individual but I think if proven guilty then I guess her house arrest should not be provided but should be put to jail already. I guess this one would go a long long way since this one would be a tug of war between two powerful political groups. Just imagine how Erap's case prospered and if not GMA extension of term he would have gotten free a long time ago.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
1 Dec 11
Its seems that way. They are trying to get public sympathy. Just even at the time when they tried to leave out of the country, they intentionally went to the entrance area of the airport instead of the VIP were they usually pass before. I guess we are not that dumb to be fooled. Well, anyway, I hope that justice will prevail and will be served accordingly.
• Philippines
26 Nov 11
This whole scenario really imaged as a dramatic telenovela that desires to make Filipinos look dumb (but we are not,and that's where these guys failed). GMA and her camp put so many mishaps and lies with the expense of her credibility that covered whatever contributions she had made during her term. I'd like to believe that she will get appropriate verdict,it may not be in the laws of the land,but in God's term. Its not even a question now of whether she will be placed on a detention cell or house arrest, the mere fact that government proved her criminal and administrative cases is a major justice already to Filipino people. At the end of the day, she is already a prison at her heart and her being!
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
1 Dec 11
Yes, capino. It looks like a telenovela with so many twist and surprises. Just lately now, their camp is now telling that their is a threat to her life. Well, I hope in the end, justice will be served.
• Philippines
26 Nov 11
I don't care where is put as long as she stays and remains here. Doctors and lawyers are complicated people who usually manipulate otehr people by using words and certain rhetoric that can make your head spin. I just hope that everything that transpires will be communicated to the public since this has been an on-going drama for some time now.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
27 Nov 11
Yes, jeanne. It is like a drama in a soap opera that people usually watch in the evening tv shows. I really think that they make a lot of fuss about health reasons just to go outside the country. It is quite clear with the latest developments that she is in the road to recovery in fact her lawyers are now asking for house arrest. So perhaps the action of going abroad may not be necessary given the circumstances. In fact the association of doctors in our country have stated that such procedure can be done here. Well, let us see what happen next.
@beamer88 (4268)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
I would rather have her under house arrest. Putting her in a detention cell would entail additional expense for the taxpayers. I feel that a lot of us has forgotten that behind all this brouhaha, we're paying her non-working days as a member of Congress. If I'm not mistaken, no motion was passed by the Ethics Committee suspending her without pay. It's ironic that even with her being charged, arrested, and all those stuff, she's still having the last laugh. The taxpayers again are being duped.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
You have a point there. But I still think she should be place in jail. Although our country will be spending money for her detention, she would really feel what is like to be a prisoner. What I am trying to say is that she should feel how hard it is to be in jail. If she under house arrest, she has the comfort and freedom at home and obviously she will be just sitting and laughing and enjoying all the comforts in life. She should answer her crime and be like other people who have committed a crime and the best place to be is of course our prison.
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@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Based on the turn of events it's very clear that GMA is trying to get out of the country and is just using her health condition as a way for her to get what she wanted. The good thing is we have a justice secretary who outwitted her lawyers. But I can't blame her if she wants to get out since that's her only way of avoiding the biggest embarrassment of her life. If she's convicted then it's only fitting that went through what erap went through.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Yes, its seems that secretary of justice was right after all. The picture is getting clearer. After all, if she really was in big health trouble, then the doctors would have not advised that she can now go home. Perhaps the doctors have no choice now. They definitely cannot just invent any reason for her to be confined or perhaps any case that cannot be treated by other doctors. We do have a lot of doctors who are quite capable of checking the health of our former president. So what do you think? Shall we advise her to go to the detention cell or just advise her to stay at home and enjoy the comforts of life?
@jtj_hello (627)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
I think the DOJ's move is just appropriate if GMA doesn't really need any immediate medical attention. The way her itenerary has been plotted is like she's trying to escape from all the charges against her. If she is innocent enough then face her case and move on if proven not guilty.
@jpso138 (7869)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
Well there were those who lambasted the secretary of justice for defying the order of the supreme court. There were also those who agree with the secretary. I myself would say that it was indeed a good move. If assuming the former president was not prevented in leaving our country.. who knows where she might be by now. And as what we have noted, she is recuperating and slowly getting well even without the trip abroad. It only shows that there is no need for that trip as of the moment. So now that she is probably allowed to go home.. what do you think.. shall we put her in the detention cell or should we allow her to stay at home?
• Philippines
18 Dec 11
I prefer house arrest..:)