A humble atheist impossible to find?

@Gordano (795)
United States
December 6, 2011 6:55pm CST
I'm a firm believer that humility and atheism can never co-exist, they can never exist together, and therefor, a humble atheist is impossible to find. all atheists are filled with arrogance, and everyone of them tend to think that he is another Einstein, a great philosopher, and they think that all those who believe in God are brainwashed or something like this. arrogance is a very bad thing, according to Islam and the Holy Quran the Devil refused to bow to Adam when God commanded the angles to do, because of arrogance. [038:071] Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: "I am about to create man from clay: [038:072] [i]"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him." [/i] [038:073] So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together: [038:074] Not so Iblis: he was haughty, and became one of those who reject Faith. [038:075] (God) said: "O Iblis! What prevents thee from prostrating thyself to one whom I have created with my hands? Art thou haughty? Or art thou one of the high (and mighty) ones?" [038:076] (Iblis) said: "I am better than he: thou createdst me from fire, and him thou createdst from clay." [038:077] (God) said: "Then get thee out from here: for thou art rejected, accursed. [038:078] [i]"And My curse shall be on thee till the Day of Judgment." [/i] the Prophet Muhammad PBUH said: "Whoever has in his heart an amount equal to the weight of an atom of 'Kibr' (i.e, pride or arrogance) will not enter Paradise" What do you think? do you know any one you can call a humble atheist? Do you think that a humble atheist is impossible to find?
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• United States
7 Dec 11
I've known plenty of humble Atheists. When one considers that Buddhism does not postulate a God, it should come as no surprise that there are millions upon millions of humble Atheists.
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• Thailand
9 Dec 11
While Buddhism does not postulate a god most people living in Buddhist societies adopt a god or gods from other religious traditions to pray to. Most Buddhist societies also coexist along side animist traditions. Buddhists may be humble but few are atheists.
• United States
9 Dec 11
most people distinguish between atheism and Buddhism. That doesn't mean they're correct to do so. And I've known plenty of Atheists who believe there is a paranormal, just no God(s).
• Canada
9 Dec 11
TheMetallion, most people distinguish between atheism and Buddhism. The former completely rejects belief in the paranormal while the latter still accepts the existence of a paranormal realm, but not a god. Chian_Mai_boy, if that's true, it yet another reason to believe that Buddhism is a load of pointless mumbo jumbo. Is it also true that most Buddhists don't believe in reincarnation, in spite of the fact that the main point of Buddhism is to avoid being reincarnated?
7 Dec 11
I do think these sort of postings are just silly, How can anyone know every atheist and of course they can't so such a statement as "a humble atheist is impossible to find" just shows how arrogant the poster is wallowing in their own ignorance. Then to go on quoting bits from things written by some leaders of middle eastern groups for political reasons and clearly believing them indicates a high level naivety
• Thailand
7 Dec 11
Most atheists ride far below the radar. While they entertain no belief in a supernatural god or gods they are not really concerned what others believe and make no issue of it because it does not matter to them unless some religious fanatic tries to impose their beliefs on them. How may humble religionists do you know who do not try to explain to you why what you believe is wrong and why their beliefs are the only ones that are endorsed by a god or gods?
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@BLTLife (337)
• United States
7 Dec 11
You don't need religion to practice humility. And how about you start showing some humility and open your mind instead of jumping to conclusions about a group of people you don't know much about.
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@ferbjohn69 (1127)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
All atheist are filled with arrogance... You are the one being arrogant by saying that.You become even worse than atheists because you judge other people so easily.I thought believers do not speak that way. Do not judge a person unless you have known him fully.Have you known or met all atheists around the world? do not judge too quickly.You have not known me.If you know me you will feel like you are with a believer.The only difference is that I do not praise your god.
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• United States
7 Dec 11
There's something that is called the vocal minority, which I think applies to this topic, since I've found arrogant types are often the loudest. Not all atheists are arrogant, just as not all theists are humble. It's horrible to generalize and stereotype based on the vocal minority. I've met plenty of quiet, humble atheists and plenty of loud, arrogant theists and vice-versa. I myself an an atheist, but I don't consider myself at all a genius like Einstein, I'm far from being able to philosophize among the greats, and I respect those who are religious for their beliefs, just as I hope they'll respect me for mine.
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@marty3888 (2355)
• Acme, Michigan
7 Dec 11
First of all, I'm a great believer in god, I know he exists. I don't know any atheists, but It's very hard for me to believe that every person that for what ever reason that dosn't believe in god is a bad person. You just can't generalize like that. I'm sure Akiane, the child prodigy who drew pictures of heaven would not say her mother is a bad person, who is an atheist.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
7 Dec 11
First of all, I'm a great believer in god And you are very humble too
• Canada
8 Dec 11
The world is so diverse.. You seem to be living in a place very different from where I live. I wish I lived in a world where I didn't know any Athiests. Here, I don't know many people who are not Athiest. In school, maybe one person in each class will have a religion, the rest are non believers. Most teachers are Athiests as well.. They aren't supposed to speak about religion in school, but sometimes they let things slip out that make it obvious they don't believe in god..
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
7 Dec 11
Hi Gordano, The only humble atheist is one who respects the beliefs of others and does not engage in dialogue about such things. I am sure that there are plenty of such people out there. I agree with you that those who write about it and make fun of those who believe in a higher power are not humble, but than neither are many of the believers who write about such things. Neither fundamentalists nor atheists, who are continually trying to change others are humble. Blessings.
• United States
27 Dec 12
So nobody should talk?
• India
2 Jun 12
Most atheist are humble.
@bird123 (10632)
• United States
7 Dec 11
I think it is evil to place labels on groups of people. You claim all atheists are arrogant. Some people claim that all muslims are evil. In all fairness, everyone is unique. To generalize just breeds hate. I know some muslims that are the best of people. I know some atheists who are reserved, quiet and kind. Is it fair to classify people based on the ones who are making the most noise?? I hope we all know it's not. Finally, one more comment. It will probably step on some toes, however it is to make people think. From you quote: (God) said: "Then get thee out from here: for thou art rejected, accursed. [038:078] "And My curse shall be on thee till the Day of Judgment." My comment: Is this the way God really handles those kiddies?? Seems like this god is letting his kids get out of control. Isn't there a better way than stomping off mad and cursing those kids??? If God can create universes, I have to think that a few arrogant and wayward kids are easier to deal with than that. God is above the petty things of mankind such as anger, hate, and wrath. High intelligence surely has figured out much better ways by now. God is much smarter than that.
• Thailand
10 Dec 11
"Then I also believe that Buddhism is evil (because it makes false claims about the paranormal realm and morality," A little documentation please. I seriously doubt that you can support your spurious claim with facts.
• Canada
9 Dec 11
bird, you can generalize about groups, there are often statistical things. Then you can argue about the stats, how do you measure arrogance anyway? Then there are things that are part of the definition and so must be true of all members of the group. For example all Christians believe that Jesus is the son and incarnation of God. There's a difference between believing that all Muslims (people) are evil and believing that Islam (ideology) is evil. I believe the latter but not the former (well I believe all humans, including myself, with the exception of Jesus, are sinful but some are worse than others) and I suspect that is true of many who express strong objections to Islam. Then I also believe that Buddhism is evil (because it makes false claims about the paranormal realm and morality, as do most religions) but when was the last time a Buddhist hijacked a plane and deliberately crashed it into a large building?
• Canada
12 Dec 11
Chiang, what evidence is there to support Buddhism? It's based on the teachings of a prince who walked out on his wife and kid. Not what I consider to be moral behavior! He was a philosopher, not a god, not a prophet. Therefore he had no special connection to the paranormal, he was just spouting his own thoughts! Shouldn't a good Buddhist be able to watch a man drown and feel nothing? Again not what I consider to be good morals. The main tennent of Buddhism is, "To exist is to suffer", so the main objective is to reach nirvana and cease to exist. Women can't reach nirvana until they're reincarnated as men. There's a heavy emphasis on self denial and monasteries (how much child abuse and homosexuality goes on in them?). However most Buddhists don't really believe in reincarnation, making the whole thing totally pointless.
@neelia_lyn (2003)
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
It's possible to find a humble atheist, one who knows how to respect others' opinions, beliefs, faith; one who can argue and debate without hurting the other; one who knows to cool down when he feels he's said too much. :) Good day!
• Canada
9 Dec 11
Wow, here I am as an atheist, and it really sounded to me, like you were talking about religious people... most religious people see their path as the only possible one, and I've been beaten up and dragged down by the religious when I am willing to have a debate with them... have you really ever found an atheist that is willing to hurt others for their beliefs (or lack thereof)? Because I've seen loads of religious people who are willing to do that, but never an atheist...
• Canada
9 Dec 11
Can you name any atheists who fit this description? OK, I doubt too many followers of organized religions fit this either. I suspect the humble atheists haven't really thought through their beliefs (or lack of them) and therefore can't do a good job at debating them. Those who have thought things through, and are still atheists, are arrogant because atheism is inherently arrogant.
• Philippines
10 Dec 11
I am not going to name names, Grapto, but in a group, there will always be one or two (or more) who have been raised to be respectful despite of what the others believe in. And not all people, theists or atheists, are good in arguing or debating or fighting or even killing for their beliefs. Christoph, when I said 'hurt' I did not mean hurting them physically, I meant verbally or emotionally. And not all those who call themselves christians are really christians, and not all those who call themselves atheists are really athiests. For Christians, it's not religion that brings them salvation but it's their personal relationship with God. So you were right when you described religious people.
@Triple0 (1904)
• Australia
7 Dec 11
I don't think that's the case, some people who are pretty religious are quite bad and selfish people too you know. We are all human and capable of flaws. You don't need to have a religion in order to be a good and humble person, anyone is capable of that. I have friends from all walks of life and from different religions. I have a few friends who are atheists and they're even have better morals than people I know who are Christian. It really does depend on the person, not their religion, religion doesn't determine who they are. I don't like how people just judge people according to their religion or what their beliefs are and using stereotypes in order to judge people. We should look at people for who they are and not what they believe in because everyone is unique. So you shouldn't say that a person is atheist, they're probably selfish people because some may be, some may not just like how some Christians might be selfish and some others are humble. The Bible shouldn't be taken literally either.
• Canada
9 Dec 11
Why shouldn't you take the Bible literally? It's totally illogical to say, "This is God's word," and then not believe parts of it. OK, there are some things that are clearly meant to be taken metaphorically (e.g. the parable of the sower, but that, taken at face value, is just a description of what happened most times farmers sowed seeds for most of history - hmm) or where the interpretation is open to debate. Gordano was actually quoting the Koran.
@Triple0 (1904)
• Australia
11 Dec 11
Well, there are some people who are fundamental believers who take the bible very literally. It was the koran? My bad! I thought we were talking about Christianity. But Islam, Christianity and other religions have a few similar beliefs. They pretty much all have similar virtues and values.
• Philippines
7 Dec 11
Speaking in spirituality,some atheist will never agree,because of pride,arrogant they have in the heart..Because Satan set as throne inside of their heart s that is why they hated God real God in heaven..they will not be save in they will not repent..
• Thailand
7 Dec 11
Why is your god anymore real than my gods?
• Thailand
14 Dec 11
atheists take it just one step further Possibly one step too far.
• Canada
9 Dec 11
Why are either of your gods more real then my lack of gods? Every religious person disbelieves in all gods of history except for their own... atheists take it just one step further...
• United States
27 Dec 12
I am not gonna try to say that atheists are humble, but I do think that people who claim to know the will of God are NOT humble. If you believe that there is a great, supreme being and that your group is the only one who knows him and what kind of people he prefers, don't you think you are claiming quite a lot? And even more so, you think that this being has some kind of personal involvement in your life to tell you who you should marry, what job you should get, where you should live, what you should eat today, how you should go to the bathroom...don't you think that's a bit arrogant to assume that he would care about all of those very small details? I'm not saying it's not true, just that if it is, you are expecting a lot from an all-powerful, all-knowing creator. When I turn down a job, I turn it down. I don't say that "God told me not to take it" or "it wasn't in God's will".
@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
7 Dec 11
Perhaps the arrogant atheists are the easiest to identify. You may not even recognise those who keep their own counsel except as 'good people' who quietly go about helping others.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
11 Dec 11
Your implication is that arrogance is a bad thing. Given this, your sweeping generalization of atheists is pretty...well...arrogant. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Having met a lot of judgmental, mean-hearted Christians I could make a sweeping statement on the nature of all Christians. I won't, however, because I believe generalizing is wrong and I'd miss out meeting interesting people if I were quick to paint them with a broad brush.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
29 Dec 11
There are many humble Atheists. You just don't know it because the humble ones don't bother to tell you they are atheists. They are quite content to have you believe what you believe, and them believe what they believe. The problem is, the atheists that are not humble, are the ones running around saying you caused the crusades, and are more than happy to cram their anti-god belief system down your throat, and show off how arrogantly more informed they are, than you. (which of course isn't true, but they don't care). Some simply because the arrogant ones are the ones that alert you to the fact they are atheists, it 'seems' like all of them are arrogant. But that's not true.
• Canada
7 Dec 11
I don't think a humble Athiest is impossible to find. Being humble has a lot to do with personality as well, not just what you believe in. I know some Athiest who are very humble and caring, I also know some religious people who are arrogant. Just because you are a believer, doesn't mean you are the best person you can be. Some just don't really put in the effort. This is coming from someone who is Christian.. I don't want to classify all athiests as know it all, arrogant people who think badly of those with a religion. The way they think of us is sort of how we think of them, is it not? Some of them may think we are brainwashed, and some of us think what they believe is wrong. I think they need to be more open-minded, but in no way do I classify them as arrogant, because they may have just never had the opportunity to learn about religion.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
7 Dec 11
I think a humble atheist is as hard to find as a humble christian in the world today.I`m not sure about muslims,probably there are more humble persons in Islam.
@tatzkie23 (770)
• Philippines
14 Jan 12
Atheist tend to be like that, arrogant! They think that they know everything. They have explanations to everything. But i don't care, i have my own beliefs and i will stick to it no matter what.