Terrible things people can do

@savypat (20246)
United States
January 22, 2012 11:06am CST
I have been reading a book on spiritual enlightenment and one thing that came up was to reach true enlightenment a person must face the fact that as a human being each one of us is responsible for the actions of all of us. In other words since each of us is only a very small part of the whole human race it's like saying just because my hand hit someone all of my body is responsible for that action. Or better yet my neighbor hit someone and because he is human and I am human we are both responsible. I have put many hours of thought into this subject and have not been able to accept it. Mainly because I cannot believe that I have the power to control the actions of others. I can go for the hand to the whole body but not the neighbor to me. Thoughts?
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@Dominique25 (9475)
• United States
23 Jan 12
I understand what you are saying. We are in imperfect yes. But we are all individuals as well and we can not control what another person does or doesn't do. Just because we are each human beings and are in the same category of being sinful it doesn't mean that it is our fault because someone else does something horrible.
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@savypat (20246)
• United States
23 Jan 12
Are you sure are we not somehow responsible for allowing this sin. Even if that means by just being passive? In history there have been cultures that don't accept evil in anyform. They all know and agree that in their culture there will be no acceptance. I know this sounds like a Star Treck story of another planet. But it's not. Some of our American Indian tribes were like this, until true evil came from outside their world and destroyed it.
• United States
27 Jan 12
Yeah i'm pretty sure. There are stronger forces at work here. We as humans just are capable of controling all that is going on or even governing ourselves for that matter. There's always an extreme there's either having stricter laws,etc but then those in power could go to far, or the other extreme of being a lot less strict. We just don't have the means necessary to do what needs to be done because we were not meant to have this type of power.
@barehugs (8986)
• Canada
23 Jan 12
For want of a nail the shoe was lost. For want of a shoe the horse was lost. For want of a horse the rider was lost. For want of a rider the battle was lost. For want of a battle the kingdom was lost. And all for the want of a horseshoe nail! -author unknown- Perhaps this olde verse says it best! "All things work together for the good of all!"
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@savypat (20246)
• United States
23 Jan 12
So how do you feel about that lost nail? Can you accept that because you are a human you have even a small responsibility here? This is what is giving me trouble.
@barehugs (8986)
• Canada
23 Jan 12
One bad apple can spoil the whole barrel! Of course, because we are all One, we share the responsibility for keeping the horse well shod, and the barrel free from rotten fruit. Its not always something we hear or see, but rather what we are, and do. Set an example! Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!
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@Theresaaiza (10484)
• Australia
23 Jan 12
That could be true because everything on Earth are really connected. For some reason, the neighbor could be a total grouch because you as a neighbor had been insensitive in some ways. Not that I was referring to you as the insenitive neighbor Just playing with the thought. But you see, no matter how true that is, we can never put too much weight on our shoulders. I think the point of the book is to encourage all of us to be more concerned or sensitive to the needs of everyone as much as we can despite our limitations.
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@savypat (20246)
• United States
23 Jan 12
I know we cannot change the past, but with this knowledge of responsibility can we create a better future? Or are we constantly under the control of our past?
@Graceekwenx (3163)
• Philippines
23 Jan 12
Wow Savy! Look at your number! How long have you been mylotting?! Anyway, to answer your question...yes, i agree with you. Not everyone is aware of this. We are held accountable for the things that we create whether it be good or bad and regardless of its size. It has a domino effect. Take for example, a men's magazine. Well, it does favor lot of men.. but what if young kids get a hold of these magazines and get all their minds filled with curiousity that smokes black with lust. I dont think the makers of these magazines wont even care! There would be a lot of finger-pointing! We should be careful. In fact, posting a weird-and-not-so-good discussion here in mylot can rise to some ill-witted ideas also. Some wont even care...
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@savypat (20246)
• United States
23 Jan 12
I have been here over four years and love this sight.
@inertia4 (27713)
• United States
25 Jan 12
I don't buy into that at all. I think that is jus a play on words. People use physiology to play with our minds, thats what that has to be. You should live by this saying, "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear." Believe me it works.
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@Pose123 (21667)
• Canada
24 Jan 12
Hi savypat, I agree that does sound a bit far fetched. While I believe we are all one and each of us an aspect of God, I don't think we can control the actions of others, at least not in materiality. Each of us are experiencing what we came here to experience. Blessings.
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@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
23 Jan 12
Why would anybody be responsible for the actions of others? It doesn't make sense when a person hit someone and others are expected to take the responsibility of the action. This thinking doesn't register in my commonsense. Does it make the doer more comfortable and convenient to make someone else the scapegoat? Some people are just weird.
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@JenInTN (27565)
• United States
23 Jan 12
I don't think I buy into that either. I can control myself and try to make changes, but I can't control what other people do. It reminds me of the old saying "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it." No..I don't think I buy into that either.
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@thezone (9451)
• Ireland
22 Jan 12
Yep we are all responsible for our own actions
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@substance (588)
• India
22 Jan 12
I think spiritual enlightenment is all about we as human beings all being one and we all return to the source. We all came from one place and we all go back to the source so we are all one. In some way, we are all connected so our actions affects the other person in a small way which can't be seen but can only be felt. As we all feel bad when bad things happen to some persons, even strangers on tv and we are all affected to see calamities/disasters on tv even if it is not affecting us directly or physically but spiritually its different. And we all feel good somehow deep inside to see good things happening to some people like the marriage of prince william and kate( just an example). That's how it is. We are not exactly responsible but we are all connected so every small deed or kindness that you shown to others is always passed on to someone by that person whom you have shown kindness or helped along the way. But you may not be aware of it most of the time.
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