I already get why most producers prefers untalented singers

Artistic people always wanted artistic control, so producers preferred having the less talented ones cos they can manufacture them into the way they wanted. It is very much about control. Producers - and record companies and the general media - like predictability. They also like to make lot of money. If an artist is producing their own material, writing their own songs and having a lot of input, there is a much smaller slice of pie for the puppet masters. Manufactured artists get a very tiny percentage of the money they generate. Look at how songs are chosen for X Factor winners. They are all songs that the record company already owns and can make a huge amoung of money off. If the artist came up with something original then it would never see the light of day!

Hiya Captain For many of them (producers) Money is a player. They are quite sure of the fact that Albums will be good and even a lesser sales will bring in profits. With the numerous recording studios up and accessible, their prices are lesser. The next segment where they (producers) can cut down is on the Artiste, the new ones and mostly untalented ones, will do anything to become published - they(producers) use this, ask the artistes to chip in some finance (which the artistes willingly do) and publish them. These producers also get a goodwill on the contexts - we are nurturing new and fresh talent and in today's bad world who cares for the new unsung artistes, it is we who bring them to the fore to be heard... Enough to cut on taxes, be known for good work and build a credibility in the market who needs releases every fortnight (if not everyday)

I think it's true that talented people tend to be extremely sensitive, and that therefore some of these, perhaps even more than some, are difficult to deal with. And of course that would apply to talented musicians, including singers. Perhaps this is especially true of singer-songwriters who of course would seek a strong degree of artistic control. I think there are some exceptionally talented singer-songwriters such as Joanna Newsom, Agnes Obel and Ane Brun who deserve more recognition. However, I'm not sufficiently familar with the music charts to know whether untalented singers are invading the charts at the expense of talented ones. Possibly the most successful Pop singer in the world today is Lady Gaga, and although i'm far from being fan of hers, I do believe her to be talented. She's an accomplished pianist; and also a very fine singer. She recently recorded a duet with Tony Bennett, who I would describe as the very quintessence of the talented singer; genius is perhaps a better word...of the Classic Popular song "Lady is a Tramp", and I was amazed at how good she was as a Jazz or Swing singer. She has a real gift in that direction. For other Pop chart regulars...well I'm not qualified to say. I think Adele is a good singer; and I thought highly of Amy Winehouse as a singer. With regard to the charts...well, in terms of talent...there seem to be plenty of talented singers...however, it could be argued chart Pop has a tendency to become set in its ways. I can remember often bemoaning chart music when I was a kid watching the classic Pop show Top of the Pops..and then cheering when my favourite act or artist came on: for me there always had to be the visual aspect.

Very good point, you make. I agree with you - not to call people like Katy Perry and Lady Gaga un-real artists, but I feel like some of the more 'worthy' ones aren't just the ones making party/dance songs that will almost immediately get on the radio.... I like music with a little more substance, is all. But part of it is "our" fault - as consumers - people seem to gravitate to this kind of music! And there's a reason, which is beyond me, as to why it's in the 'top 40' or whatever. *shrugs*

You stated "controversy charts." I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I'm gonna try to understand and put it as objectively as possible. This discussion is talking about how untalented singers get more fame. Then it would make sense that these singers had more controversies publicly known than more talented singers because they're always in the spotlight. The more talented singers may still have lots of controversies; we just don't know about them because the media doesn't focus on them nearly as much. As for the discussion as a whole, I'm not sure that you're right. There have always been good and bad artists ever since the industry came together. The entire thing is subjective. Katy Perry, Justin Beiber, and other "pop" singers are good at what they do just like Rush, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and other "rock" singers are good at what they do. I don't know much about rap and country, but the major names there are also good at what they do. It's all about style and genre in the music industry these days.

It's all about profit they can get from that talent. There have been a lot of incredible talents around the world, but they have not much fan. There are also not so talented people but has a lot of fan. So this producer prefer them, because this people has fans already.

I suppose you have a point. Talented people know that they have value and they can probably switch to another recording company if the feel they are not getting what they deserve with the company they're in. Those with less talent are less confident that they would be accepted elsewhere and so are more willing to go through with whatever strange plans that their company decides for them no matter how much they don't like it.

Hi Capt Albert! If your talking about the charts in whichever country it comes down to bankability and predictability. There are incredible talented singers out there who will not get a chance at the 'bigtime' because they lack the temperament, stamina and luck beleive it or not. speaking for myself coming from a dance/electronic background collabarating with singers as a producer is great! because my job is to understand them, work with them and drive them to produce the best vocal take that satisfies all involved. A lot of it depends on genre and style. Some voices go in and out of popularity, think about the throaty growl on Kings of Leons frontman and then think about Thom York from Radioheads keening melodic highs or Neil Youngs slight meloncholic lilt in his album "after the goldrush". Most singers need to find there own voice which takes time and practice - which you don't have time for in a result/cash orrientated environment.

It's because they knew that these untalented singers will know on how to pay their respects to someone who made a break in their career. There are some celebrities who doesn't know how to pay respect to those who helped them at the time when their career is down.

I have no experience in this, but I think there is a lot of truth in what you say. Probably many talented people don't compromise so easily, as they are quite self-conscious about the image and quality they want to be associated with. Some untalented people don't care, they just want to be known and famous. Good talent is needed not only to make a good "product", but to sell it too, and unfortunately those talents often don't meet perfectly .