Even today Men are paid more than women for the same job...
By kiran8
@kiran8 (15348)
Mangalore, India
March 21, 2012 9:33am CST
In spite of doing the same work, there are still some work places which pay men more than women...This is something that happens often in India.
I can understand where sheer physical labor is concerned - since men are physically stronger , they are able to put in much more effort .However, when it comes to office jobs I don't see why there should be any difference.
Recently in my city there was a bit of a problem when a lady teacher filed a case against the school authorities because she came to know that a male teacher who was less experienced than her and also less qualified than her was being paid more than her.The excuse given was that he had look after the family and home.But that is not a valid reason since these days there are many women too doing that due to various reasons..
Does this happen in your country? If so what are your views about it ? Friends please share ...
Does this happen in your country? If so what are your views about it ? Friends please share ...3 people like this
11 responses
@cowboyofhell (3063)
• Philippines
21 Mar 12
Maybe the basis was that when males were young, the young females did not do any burdensome task. All went to the boys. That is equal to 8 Xs in the past and 2 checks at the present for boys while females have 8 checks in the past and 2 Xs in the present. And now, if males are not experienced it is because of those Xs they incurred in the past while females got good because they have 8 checks before when they were young.
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@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
21 Mar 12
Hi cowboy, thanks a lot for your response
..However, i am a bit confused about the 8 X and 2 X...I don't think that there is too much of an imbalance with regard to qualification even though girls generally score better in exams .Here, one can only blame the general environment and upbringing which looks on favorably even when boys get into mischief and don't much care for their responsibilities...
..However, i am a bit confused about the 8 X and 2 X...I don't think that there is too much of an imbalance with regard to qualification even though girls generally score better in exams .Here, one can only blame the general environment and upbringing which looks on favorably even when boys get into mischief and don't much care for their responsibilities...1 person likes this
@cowboyofhell (3063)
• Philippines
21 Mar 12
What I meant is that 80% of men's life is hardship because women are off-limits to taxing chores when they were young and all the 'heavy' work took its toll with men's ability to specialize at a skill or job. Therefore, women enjoyed youth because the hard work is taken by the boys, thus women have gained expertise with ease. Now if men deserve something, why not give it to them?
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@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
21 Mar 12
Of course I dont agree with that view, it is totally one sided.In fact, in Indian homes it is the girls who carry all the burden of working at home also after marriage work at home, look after the kids also manage a career of their own, that is if the Husband permits her to do so...
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@anil02 (24688)
• India
21 Mar 12
Hello Kiran ji, I am agree with you but women are responsible for it. Why they agree to work on less payment. In India moreover private schools are depends on ladies teachers. if women refuse to work on token amount I think it is not possible to run private schools.
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@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
23 Mar 12
I dont think that there are any written rules as such which helps women against such discrimination.We also see such discrimination mostly in private sectors , and that's why there is the need for implementing rules against such a practice..
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@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
22 Mar 12
Hi anil, thanks a lot for sharing your views When there is such a practice and there is also a need can women expect anything better? If a woman is desperate then she will accept anything that comes her way regardless of the pay structure...Jobs are fewer and demand is much greater so , how can a woman fight back unless there is a rule against it and people are not allowed to take advantage of..
When there is such a practice and there is also a need can women expect anything better? If a woman is desperate then she will accept anything that comes her way regardless of the pay structure...Jobs are fewer and demand is much greater so , how can a woman fight back unless there is a rule against it and people are not allowed to take advantage of..1 person likes this
@Sreekala (34312)
• India
24 Mar 12
Hi Kiran,
I agree there is difference in wages in case of the work which need physical strength. But in case of office, I think the pay scale is equal. It is really unfortunate to know this incident; I don’t know how they can discriminate their employees in this way. She done a great job while filing a case against this.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Mar 12
Hi Sreekala, Thanks a lot for sharing your views .. in many private companies the pay scale is different for male and female, just that you don't come to know about it or rather have no way of coming to know about it...Talking about the case, the management has now agreed to pay her more since they dint want to go forward with the litigation
@venkit (2955)
• India
24 Mar 12
surely, still there are some people or institution which show discrimination.
But i think majority of the firms have changed their mind, specially in IT, jobs and all both men and women are treated in same manner.
In government sector also both men and women are treated with same scale of pay.
I think it will take time to change the mind of whole nation.
But surely, its not at all fair to pay different wages for same job, people should change..
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Mar 12
Hi venkit, thanks a lot for your response No doubt that there is more equality now than before.My mother who was a teacher says that the male teachers in her school got paid more and this being a semi government school.But things have changed now and in most government offices men and women are treated equally as regards pay and perks..all the best
No doubt that there is more equality now than before.My mother who was a teacher says that the male teachers in her school got paid more and this being a semi government school.But things have changed now and in most government offices men and women are treated equally as regards pay and perks..all the best @shwetat195 (628)
• India
21 Mar 12
hi kiran, i do not agree with ur conclusion. the incident which u mentioned can not be taken as a general thing which happens in india. i wud say today the professional corporate sector decides on the salary on educational qualification clubbed with experience. then comes the part wherein the employer and proposed employee can negotiate to some extent. however after acceptance of the offer employee can not claim that employer is giving more salary to other employee...exceptions are always there. unfortunately the lady teacher was getting low salary but then why did she accept that salary at the first instance....it wud be difficult for any corporate company to raise the salary mid way just because the employee is comparing her salary with colleagues
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
21 Mar 12
Hi shweta, thanks a lot for your response I have mentioned a single case only since it is fresh in my mo ind and most of us felt that it was unfair.The lady teacher in question has no way of knowing how much each person is paid and she has been working in that school since 5 years whereas the new teacher has been there just for over a year.She came to know his salary details by accident.It would be the same case elsewhere since one is never told what others being paid.You take up a job, start working and may be later realise that others esp the male workers earning more..Exceptions as you say are there everywhere..
I have mentioned a single case only since it is fresh in my mo ind and most of us felt that it was unfair.The lady teacher in question has no way of knowing how much each person is paid and she has been working in that school since 5 years whereas the new teacher has been there just for over a year.She came to know his salary details by accident.It would be the same case elsewhere since one is never told what others being paid.You take up a job, start working and may be later realise that others esp the male workers earning more..Exceptions as you say are there everywhere..@shwetat195 (628)
• India
21 Mar 12
yes i agree. what i mentioned was my experience. since i was somehow related with the HR salary level part of recruiting, i can understand wht u r talking abt. however, i wud say it does happen...a new recruit getting more salary depending upon his negotiation skills and the demand of the company to hire immediately ...then it is very depressing for the old recruits to work with the new recruits...as they do almost the same job...we had a nos of cases to handle and ensure attrition reduction...it was difficult...
@honest_efforts100 (1607)
• India
4 Jul 12
Men and women should be paid equally. No more, no less. It’s unfair for us women that men are paid more because they are physically strong than us. Women has the abilities that men don’t have, men has also abilities that women don’t have. So, it’s clear that all of us are equal. I’m not in favor of men are paid more than women. It’s against the human rights.
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
22 Mar 12
Every job I have ever worked at that also had women present. The women were given easier jobs and better preferences than the men.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
25 Mar 12
Hi Evan, thanks a lot for sharing your views ...It is normal nowadays to find women working at most places and given jobs according to their qualification and experience.What I am saying is that for the same job, men get paid more in spite of having the same or in some cases even when they are not as qualified or experienced as women which is nothing but discrimination..
@bhanusb (5709)
• India
21 Mar 12
Hi kiran,
this discrimination exists allover this subcontinent. In many jobs women get less salary than their fellow men colleagues. If women have to take burden why men would not share this responsibility! The outlook of the society must be changed. In many sectors women are doing better than men. In my view in work field women should not be deprived and they should get their proper share.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
21 Mar 12
Hi bhanu, I agree with your views, surprisingly I am told that this happens even in Western countries which is supposed to be far ahead where freedom and rights for women are way ahead of developing countries.That makes one think that this discrimination is inborn in human beings and it is not easy to get rid of this mind set...
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@webearn99 (1742)
• India
22 Mar 12
Yes gender bias does exist in employment. But things are changing with times and the fact that women are standing up to their rights, as you have mentioned, is a pointer to that. It is still a long way to go on that journey, but the goal is getting nearer with each step.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
23 Mar 12
Hi webearn, I agree that things are changing and women are also fighting back against such things.In time things are bound to get better probably in the cities, but I am not too sure about smaller cities and villages where the mindset of the people is so backward that it is not easy to change it..
@humaninsane (47)
• China
22 Mar 12
not actually.. i think it can happen in india. couz i m frm thr .. but not in other countries .. even in other countries girls are prefered and high paid the men..
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
24 Mar 12
I doubt if that is true that women are preferred - may be in certain jobs they are like nursing and jobs that need certain skills which women are good at.Other than that, I have heard of this discrimination even in other countries.In most of the Arabian and muslim countries women have no voice or any rights at all - no voting rights, cannot drive or go out without a male family member.So one ca forget about rights regarding career choice - thanks a lot for your response and enjoy your weekend
@entrerri (14)
• Bulgaria
21 Mar 12
This is a common issue in most countries,maybe even everywhere and it is not surprising.In general women are equally good as men in most activities and jobs,but for most people women are not believed to be ?? studious as men.Men are more often workaholics than women,and tend to be more responsible.Maybe this is the reason men often get paid better for the same job.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
22 Mar 12
Hi entrerri, thanks a lot for sharing your views I am not sure whether that is so, that men are more responsible.In most homes it is the woman who is taking care of everything and the men just enjoy the attention and the comfort provided by the wife, so where is the question of men being more responsible..
I am not sure whether that is so, that men are more responsible.In most homes it is the woman who is taking care of everything and the men just enjoy the attention and the comfort provided by the wife, so where is the question of men being more responsible..