Do you discuss religion?

Kuwait
March 26, 2012 1:18am CST
''Please,let's change the subject. There are two things I never discuss,religion and politics!" ''I leave religion to the wife and Kids." ''I do not want to discuss religion I just got home from church." Do these comments sound familiar? Some prefer not to discuss religion because they view it as a matter between them and God. Jesus himself said: "When you pray ,go into your private room and,after shutting your door,pray to your Father who is in secret; then you Father who looks on in secret will repay you."-Matt.6:6. On the other hand,Jesus and his disciples did not feel that every aspect of religion should be private. They freely and openly talked about a variety of spiritual topics,and this resulted in their teaching being spread throughout the world. Ofcourse not everybody was inclined to talk with them and some who did remained skeptical. Today too,attitudes toward discussing religion vary from person to person and from culture to culture. In many western lands for example,people tend to be quite concerned with secular matters like education,employment,sports,computers ,TV,and many more. In other cultures,people are willing to talk about their beliefs. Yet regardless of people's background,thngs happen in their lives that move some who previously were not interested in religion to reasses their spiritual need. How about you,is it necessary to talk about religion?
14 responses
27 Mar 12
I think when discussing religion it is good to remember that we are a minor species living on a small planet going round a minor star which is one of many millions of stars in galaxy which is one of many millions of galaxies in a universe that we are only just beginning to understand. So if the whole thing was started by some god or other that god has probably not even noticed us yet as in the universal time scale we have only just arrived in the last few seconds. So any ideas we have about a god, a faith or a religion is confined to the people involved.
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• Canada
28 Mar 12
maidangela, God notices when a sparrow falls and counts the hairs on your head. He's omniscient, how can he fail to notice even trivial things?
28 Mar 12
Your kidding yourself but that is okay you carry on as long as you do not try to harm someone because they do not agree with you.
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@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
29 Mar 12
maidangela , "god has probably not even noticed us yet" He created us , how did He has probably not even noticed us yet ?
• Australia
26 Mar 12
Only here, when I get aggravated enough. I don't elsewhere because I simply don't know any religious people, all my circle are either agnostics or atheists. A few years ago I did, quite a bit, because I was doing a major in Comparative Religion, but even that was always with other students, very few of whom were religious. In fact, I can't remember one. And to be honest, I prefer it that way, since most religious folk who actually want to discuss their religion seem to be the loony and/or fundamentalist and/or evangelical types, who either want to convert me or tell me how much better my life would be if I accepted God, or Allah, or how misguided I am for being an atheist, or how I can't possibly have any morality or ethics because I'm not a Christian. And/or they deny that women are treated as second-class citizens in virtually every mainstream religion, or that more cruelty and killing has been done in religion's name than for any other reason. Damn, now I'm getting aggravated again. Lash
@Runite (307)
• United States
27 Mar 12
One reason why I left religion in the first place, they deny these things and try to convert you and people of other beliefs. When someone criticizes the Church (I mean a group) then they fire back with these atheist leaders (one person) like Hitler, they say he's a atheist and look what happened in his regime (yet most of his soldiers had a faith in some religion), now compare that to the inquisition and the crusaders which was led by all religious groups. : | Really, and they tell us that we're immoral when they don't follow the thou shall not kill thing.
27 Mar 12
Hi Runite I understood that Hitler was a Roman Catholic and the attitude of the Vatican during the war does not suggest anything else. Of course considering the history of the Catholic church there does not seem to be any reason why being a Catholic would stop him carrying out any of the appalling acts that he did.
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• Canada
27 Mar 12
grandpa_lash, I think thing about morality is that no man has the right to say, "My morals are better than yours!" so to have morals that accepted by society and, by extension, used as the basis of laws, you need to appeal to something greater than human thought. The only options are science and God and science has proved useless in this department. I rather wonder why an atheist would major in comparative religion and what educational institution can be devoid of religious students. Most Christian denominations now treat women fairly and even have female leaders. This is quiet consistent with the Bible. Runite, the inquisition and the crusaders were all Roman Catholics. However, when I look at the news, I rather wish the crusaders had done a better job. The commandment isn't "thou shall not kill", it's "thou shall not commit murder," which isn't quiet the same thing. Hitler was into some weird occult stuff inspired by Madam Blavatski who founded the Theosophical society.
@whiteheron (4223)
• United States
26 Mar 12
I think that talking about religion is dangerous but I still engage in it... I like to talk about spirituality more however as the deeper spiritual experiences seem to cut across religious lines despite their practitioner's views to the contrary. When one talks about spiritual experiences, there is a lot of common ground... Faith in a higher power, Prayers being answered, the feeling of being cared for and protected, the peak experience, sometimes the experience of seeing a light or mist or cloud or hearing a sound in religious settings, the feeling of love that wells up and desires to express itself in kindness, a desire to do good actions and to engage in moral behavior, moments of timelessness, feelings of warmth or energy, feeling of connection to all that is, feeling of connection to those who have passed or a belief they live on, a sense of belonging to a larger community, etc. I don't believe that it is kind to try to convert others to a particular religion or pathway. Frankly, I think it is arrogant, unkind, disrespectful and insensitive to put it mildly. I especially hate it when people try to convert through persecution, taxation, the promise of hell and damnation for a failure to convert, incentives of money, etc. It is wrong to do these things. Let people have the faith they have. Accept them as they are and love them as they are. Let them come to you to ask about your faith if they think that you have something good to share. It is far better than standing on a corner or browbeating others by passing out tracts condemning people who disagree with a particular world view. I must admit I have a dislike for those who stand one street corners hollering about the need to convert to their way of thinking as it is not perceived as being kind or compassionate even though those who do it often believe that it is. It is actually seen as an attempt of one person to foist his or her religious views, opinions, and visions of reality onto someone else, someone who was created by God to be as they are, in their family of origin, with their religious beliefs, with their own values... The people they are trying to convert though were created by God to be as they are. I would like to ask those who stand on street corners, those who give out tracts, those who threaten taxation or punishment with hell or with hard times now in order to get people to convert... Do you really think that you can do better than God? Are you so sure that you are acting in accord with God's wishes in attempting to deprive others of their identity, of their connection to their family and of their connection to their culture? You do know that they may lose these things should they convert don't you or are you so blind you did not think of this? Are you sure that what you have is so much better than what they have been gifted with by God? How arrogant is that really? And how prideful is that to think that your way is best and that you are somehow mandated to convert others when you most likely are not even fully living in accord with the core teachings of your own religion? If you are out to get souls for God to add to a quota or otherwise to make yourself feel better, cut it out. Let others come to you if you are living well enough to set a good example. Honestly... Be kind.
• Canada
28 Mar 12
whiteheron, some religions, including Christianity and Islam, instruct their followers to try to convert others. Therefore to live "fully in accord with the core teachings" followers of these religions should try to convert others. Islam has unfair taxation and persecution of other religions as part of its doctrine and I've heard this has been very effective (although I don't personally agree with this, not being a Muslim). I agree that attempting to convert others is often done ineptly. Of course, with pretty much everything, people tend to start out being inept and need practice to get better. More high profile things will be seen and heard by many people and may succeed in converting some, even if you don't like it. It's necessary to use different methods to reach different people.
@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
29 Mar 12
"Islam has unfair taxation and persecution of other religions as part of its doctrine " from where you come with your information about Islam?
• Canada
30 Mar 12
samar look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya although I read this in the footnotes of an English translation of the Koran a long time ago.
• Trinidad And Tobago
27 Mar 12
Your very first line "There are two things I never discuss, Religion and Politics" are the codes that I live by. I don't discuss either one because, of the sensitivity of the topics and quite frankly a conversation about religion which more than likely is expected to be a peaceful one, could turn out to be all out war,feelings getting hurt, damamging relationships extensively because people tend to have thin skins when it's comes to discussing" a topic like that. Sharing my faith on a one to one basis with someone if they asked, or if the conversation I'm in allows it which can involve sharing my perspective on issues that may touch a religious chord,is way different than directly making reference to someone's faith or practises that could possibly turn into an offensive and tedious discussion. I live by the aforementioned code: I don't discuss politics or religion, I'm unabashed about it and will continue to live by that code.
• Kuwait
27 Mar 12
Same as my other friends have. I dont want to talk about politics either,but not when it comes to religion. I like making conversation with people who were truly religious not just self confessed. Talking spiritual things with them makes me feel wonderful,especially in this time of trouble. Indeed we are born with spiritual needs.
@Runite (307)
• United States
27 Mar 12
When it's bothering our lives then yes. Really look at most of the American politicians and what do they all have in common? They're all Christians, really I can careless about that but I do give a damn about the fundamentalist ones, I don't want to hear your damn fake patriotic front or trying to tell me about your religion. I just want to hear something that you'll actually do to get more jobs and get this country out of debt. There's a reason why state and religion were meant to be separate yet there are people who want them to merge for some Christian nation, also we aren't one, just look at some Ottoman treaty. When I get into a debate, I just leave once someone mentions a scripture from their book. Your Holy Book sentences isn't evidence for me, the Bible can't be true if the Qu'ran is true, it's just contradicting itself. It's not necessary but just interesting for me to see what happens.
• Canada
28 Mar 12
Runite, Mit Romney isn't a Christian, he's a Mormon. A lot of people suspect that President Obama is a Muslim. Then all to many US politicians and connected with Skull and Bones and Freemasonry (Mormonism is an off shoot of Freemasonry and the Skull and Cross bones was originally a Masonic symbol) so there's plenty of grist for the anti-Christian conspiracy theory mill. Of course both the Bible and Qu'ran can't be true (although there are things they agree on) but that doesn't mean neither of them can be true.
• India
2 Jun 12
Plenty of times.
@aerous (13474)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Well, it's bad to discuss religion in the Family, if you have different religion or belief. Because it's good to share and learn of each who is real and who is false?
@bellis716 (4806)
• United States
28 Mar 12
Jesus also said to go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and the on, and the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. Matthew 28:19 & 20A. How can one obey this commandment if the subject of religion is taboo?
@Near2011 (155)
• United States
27 Mar 12
Well, my "religion" is very open so people often get confused as to what religion I am, because I don't discuss it nor do I avoid the topic when it is brought up. Buddhist, by the way. though I feel its more of a philosophy than a religion
@kiran8 (15361)
• Mangalore, India
27 Mar 12
Hi amhaarets, I dont mind discussing religion as long as the discussion is between people who are like minded and also it is about an issue that concerns everybody.But, I have seen that some people are very generous with their criticisms about other religions but when they are at the receiving end they don't want to have any discussions .I dont want to be a part of such one sided discussions.As for me, I am not very religious and if and when there is reason to criticise the religion I am born into, I accept it and wish others too do the same since nothing in this world is perfect and in my opinion Religion(s) has/have too many imperfections...all the best
• Philippines
27 Mar 12
Most of us have grown up to mean religion when we talk about spiritual things. When I came to know the reality of religion versus relationship with God, I found out that religion has nothing to do with it. Religion doesn't lead someone to spirituality. Religion doesn't have anything to do with the salvation of the soul. Spirituality and religion are two different entities. Our relationship with God doesn't have anything to do with religion. A religion is just a man-made concept of connecting to a higher power. I don't talk about religion when I talk about spiritual things.
@yanzalong (10151)
• Indonesia
27 Mar 12
Discussing religion will be interesting if you all belong to the same religion. Discussion on it will be very controvertial if among you are different believers.
@kaieous (15)
• United States
27 Mar 12
I'll discuss anything, I just don't always have much to say. I consider myself agnostic with my own idea of what is and isn't, rooted in physics, philosophy, and personal comfort. I think I just frustrate people, because I think your choice of religion is whatever makes you feel the most fulfilled. If your religion conflicts with the way I live my life, then you shouldn't live your life like I do. This life's mine!
@Mashnn (4503)
26 Mar 12
I think more often because of conflicting opinions and understanding when it comes to religion and politics. It is hard to come across someone who had the same belief like yours. In most cases, you will just argue and no conclusion will be made.