old age pensions

@winterose (39932)
Canada
June 14, 2012 12:00pm CST
many people in the states are complaining about Obamacare, well in Canada I don't like our conservative government, Steven Harper is passing a new bill to make seniors 67 before they can collect their old age pensions. It is supposed to come into effect in 10 years which means I will just make it but before who are now 54 years old, will not get their pensions at 65, they will have to wait until they are 67. any thoughts?
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@koopharper (6032)
• Canada
24 Jun 12
I'm expecting this trend to continue. I'm Canadian and I honestly believe by the time I get that far along they have bumped it to seventy. If I continue working the crappy jobs that I'm working right now, this is depressing news. I hope to be running my own small business by then doing wood turning and writing. If that is the case I won't really retire until I'm not physically able to do anything. I'm starting to physically slow down already though. It isn't fair to a lot of us. I know the government is dealing with financial realities but cutting programs reducing everything is not the answer to all our problems.
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@winterose (39932)
• Canada
25 Jun 12
I don't like a conservative government they are always cutting social programs. Writing is not that easy that is what I do, I am disabled and work from home now.
• Canada
26 Jun 12
I'm generally conservative in my thinking but I would consider myself apolitical. My patience with the conservative government has run more than a little bit thin. Our social programs are broken. They don't work the way they are supposed to. Cutting programs is not the solution. Those cuts are punishing the people who need the programs and does nothing to the cheaters who are causing the problems. I'm in government housing. It is too expensive for my budget and we are having a very difficult time working our way out from under their help. My wife is physically unable to work but I am considered too healthy for her to be eligible for disability. We live on half of what is considered minimum income for a family the size of ours. I am turned away from the food bank because government rules say I make too much money. I think we can build our way out of this but government "help" has been more of a hindrance than a help. I'm a wannabee writer and I agree writing is not easy whether you suffer a disability or not. I wish you all the best with that working from home.
• Pamplona, Spain
19 Jun 12
Hiya WR., I ask myself what about the People who have never been able to work then. How do they fare with these kind of laws which by the way are being implemented here too. We have no idea how we stand either. I have contacted the British Social Security to be able to find out whether it´s yes or no that you get any kind of Pension from them. I worked for a whole nine years over there but again I have no idea what they are going to tell me either. I agree it really is unfair as there are all kinds of situations that apply to many different People.xxx
@winterose (39932)
• Canada
20 Jun 12
in canada, the laws will apply to people who have never worked as well. At 65 everyone got the old age pension, and if you had no other income like from company pensions the you get a supplement but now everyone has to wait to 67 and I am just going to slide in under the wire.
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• Pamplona, Spain
20 Jun 12
Hiya WR., Good for you then glad you could get in there on time. That is great. Meanwhile I am reading heart rendering stories about Women and Men included that look after close Family as well as their own duties and do not get paid here. They justify that they are not 67 yet and so they get the very minimum. These people are the backbone of this Country as there is no proper care for a lot of People who are not really invalids yet they are ill enough to need care from someone else. Knowing Britian I will probably have to wait a few weeks for an answer either yes or no. If it´s no then they are keeping all the hard work I put into those nine years and a bit. But then they won´t care about all that. Anyhow I am glad for you, I am always glad that when someone really needs that money they get it because they need it. Don´t give up with your Books I would´nt keep looking for other ways to promote them I would. I don´t know what they are about but you never know when you hit the nail on the head as to getting them seen in the right places. It´s just that I read somewhere here that you wrote two books or e-books same thing. Lets see how I go with this Pension thing as well bit of suspense for me too lol.xxx
@celticeagle (111378)
• Boise, Idaho
14 Jun 12
I recall when social security was set back like that. Ugh! I feel very fortunate because I was only employed at the place where I worked last for five years. I got an early retirement. And I also got a small pension which I will get each month for the rest of my life. For only five years I think I lucked out pretty well.
@winterose (39932)
• Canada
14 Jun 12
yep you lucked out but so many people in their 50's at this moment are going to have to work another two years whether they want to or not sick or not sick, just not right. Lots of people die before they even get to be 65.
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@celticeagle (111378)
• Boise, Idaho
22 Jun 12
This is true. But if they are sick they should apply for SS benefits.
• India
24 Jun 12
sorry to hear about the changes in pension policy. Hope they will reconsider it. I am from India, in our country the retirement age of central government staffs will be 60 and the state government employees will get their retirement at 58 years. Most of the private concerns employees job also limited at 58 years. After retirement all the retired persons will get pensions. We must do certain formalities and fill up the form to get pension and the pension will be provided after submitting all the required documents. We will get our pensions as soon as possible by submitting the proof and evidence. Most of the employees will be settled with a good amount at the time of retirement as their service pay. The pension amounts are differ for state and central government employees. Private sector employees will receive a low pension compared with the government employees. Most of the old age persons will get a lot of benefits with this pension amount. The pension rates are changed once in a while and employees will get benefits with the highest rates based on the new changes.
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@winterose (39932)
• Canada
25 Jun 12
wow for a country with so many people, that is wonderful that pension age is so low, we only have 34 million people in Canada and they are making it longer before we can get our pensions.
@Thoroughrob (11771)
• United States
14 Jun 12
It is pretty much the same here. They just keep raising the age.
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@winterose (39932)
• Canada
14 Jun 12
it is just horrible
@blue65packer (11835)
• United States
14 Jun 12
I am going to try and work until I am 70 so I can get full benefits. I am 50 mow and I hope social security is still around when I retire! I will get a pension form my job,too. Right now you have to 65 to get into it. I would not mind if it changed to 67. I work with a guy who just turned 76. He works only during the school year. He has not touched his retirement pension at all! I have no idea why he doesn't! He is not getting any younger and his wife has a nerve problem in her lower legs now and could end up in a wheel chair someday! He is wasting away his retierment! They should be traveling but instead they are doing known of that! I hope to enjoy my retirement,if I can retire!
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@winterose (39932)
• Canada
14 Jun 12
yes but there are many people who do not have private pensions and they are the ones that are going to suffer. They are not well enough to work but they will have to work another 2 years and it is just not fair. They should have made it an option that companies could not retire someone until 67 if they wanted to do the two extra years of work.
@cher913 (25895)
• Canada
14 Jun 12
well, i guess they just don't have the money to pay anymore so they are differing it as long as possible. i have health issues now at 50 and they want me to wait two more years til i get pension? that's just nuts! i think Harper will be out on his ear before too long!
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@winterose (39932)
• Canada
14 Jun 12
I hope the creep is out on his ear. He got very cocky after he got his majority government.
@AmbiePam (44522)
• United States
14 Jun 12
Here, it depends when you can retire. My dad has calculated he'll have to be 68 before he retires. But one of his brothers was just sixty when he retired. Rarely though do I hear of anyone getting to retire these days without at leasting being 64. Although I guess there is the military. Twenty years in and you can retire.
@winterose (39932)
• Canada
15 Jun 12
no there is a national retirement age even in the usa, people here on this discussion says it is 70 you are saying 68. People always had the option to retire before that if they want to. But they government will only start paying the pension at the date they specify for us it has always been 65 now it will be 67 for everyone after me.
• United States
14 Jun 12
Well you are already getting a pension, so you will continue to get it. They won't just cut you off. I understand you mentioned that it won't affect you anyway, so that is good. I think people already getting it on disability won't be cut off. They will just continue to get their disability. The government has talked about making it older for Americans to get their Social Security also. Still, those on disability will keep getting theirs. I don't see why they won't. Mine will continue to be like it is with the same amount of money and with raises every year hopefully... we had one every year since I've been on it until Obama took over. This is off topic, but... He (Obama) has done nothing but make it harder for older people. I don't like how he is condoning the Muslim Brotherhood or whatever it is called... giving money to them while they cut off the head of a Christian because he is an infidel. My SIL says it is just a political move and nothing to do with religion, but still he knows a man gets his head sawed off or hacked off and he gives them money? I just don't like him because he is nothing of what he pretended to be when he was running for office. What a liar... but then all politicians are... poly tics... many blood suckers.
@winterose (39932)
• Canada
14 Jun 12
yes it doesn't affect me, but you know me, I am a true Canadian through and through and I am concerned about my fellow man and woman who have to struggle an extra two years to work, when they really need to retire because they old bones are just not working like they used to.