On Friends Who Borrow Money

@Raine38 (12257)
United States
July 17, 2012 6:25am CST
You are just earning enough, you can buy a little luxury here and there and you can still manage to put something away in your meager savings account. Then comes along a friend of yours who's in a bit of trouble and she needs to borrow money from you and you have just the right amount of money-your whole savings because let's say, you just started saving this year. Will you lend her the money or not? How do you say no to people who constantly waits on you to borrow money?
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
17 Jul 12
Honestly my friends wouldn't ask me. We don't borrow from each other as that can cause animosity between us. If I was to be asked I would probably tell them the honest truth, that I don't have that much to give and what I do is directly from my savings, not something I really want to give up as it's also a "rainy day" fund.
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@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
17 Jul 12
Lucky you. Unfortunately I only have 2 friends who share the same sentiments as yours.
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@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
It still depends on that kind of friend. I mean, we know are friends right? i think if she is the kind of friend who can really be trusted in financial matter then why not? maybe i can give her like the exact money she wants to borrow, and if it is a friend who is not that much aware in handling money then i will only give half. I know friends are friends but money is also money. We should think before we ct or else we might face the consequences. It`s not that we are not a good fiend and we are not helping her in times of trouble, maybe it`s just a matter of you also think of yourself and the future
• Philippines
18 Jul 12
That must been very difficult. I mean does she have to know the exact amount of your money? Maybe you need to explain yourself and tell her directly in a nice way the truth. Friends can understand you after all. Like you need to understand others before others may understand you as well. I hope you can sort this situation well. Good luck and God bless
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
18 Jul 12
You're right. Actually what really ticks me off is that I offered her something that I can easily lend her without affecting my own situation, but she refuses it, she wants all of it. :(
@Graceekwenx (3160)
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
If that friend of yours have a stable job, then rest assured that they can pay you back. Put everything on writing. If need be, charge an interest as well per month delayed from her commitment. The problem with these people is that they forget their obligation to you. Furthermore, she must be someone that you often see and not just someone who comes around. Keep her contact number and address if you may. Include her parents' contact number if you may.. You would gonna need all these info if she starts to hide. It is just so disappointing when these borrowers disapper when you neeed money the most. In other words, dont fall for the whining whiners about financial loss. Consider their capacity to pay.
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
The nerve of her you tell her! Shove it! Leave her be!
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@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
17 Jul 12
Here's the skinny: she's a former classmate back in high school. We never had any means of communication until last 3 weeks ago when we found each other thru mutual friends over Facebook. I forgot who added who but it was her who initiated contact thru a message. Of course, I was excited to keep in touch with former friends, and yes we did have a very good relationship back in high school and just lost touch because we both went abroad to work. Now, I'm back home, a SAHW for a year now, while she and her husband are still working abroad.She said her hubby lost his job, and they are behind their credit card debts. And what she's asking from me is more than a thousand dollars! My husband will skin me alive if I lend money just like that from someone I haven't seen, in the flesh, for ages. Plus, she's not here so I really don't know how it's gonna work. Now here's the thing, she's like stalking(?) or hounding (?) me on Facebook, like when I went to have a haircut with my sis, my sis checked in and tagged me. She saw it. She now goes telling me hey you can afford to be in that salon, i know you can spare me the money I need. But the thing is, I cannot and the cost of my haircut can't even compare to what she wants to borrow from me to begin with. :( I don't want to lose a new found old friend, but at this rate...
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
hi raine, I understand this situation it happened to me before and I was thinking twice even how long I know them I still need to think about it they say if you want to loose some friends lend them money . If you think she has the capability to return it lend her even a small amount so you can still leave something for you. happy mylotting
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
well in that case she must understand you at least you offered even in a small amount,besides for sure you are not the only friend she can ask for help
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
17 Jul 12
Thing is, I cannot lend her the amount that she wants; but she won't accept what little I can offer. :(
@BabyCheetah (1911)
• Australia
17 Jul 12
I don't lend anyone money because a majority of the time they never pay it back. You just need to tell them no and if they hound you just spend less time with them because obviously they are not your friend and just using you for the money which is sad
• Australia
17 Jul 12
Give and take is fine with some things but if you have said no and that you can't afford to give then as a friend they should respect taht and not whinge and complain about how you spend your money. That is not what a real friend would do, they wouldn't make you feel guilty like that. That's how I see it anyway.
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
17 Jul 12
I tried not to think of it that way, but the way things are, it seems you're right. It sucks to find out that people will only befriend you or keep being friends with you because they can see the relationship to their own advantage. I really don't mind a give and take relationship, not at all. It's just right now, I really can't help out.
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
Just be honest enough to say that you can not lend because that is your savings and that you will need it in the future. True friends will understand. If she insists and feels bad then remember this, It is better to lose her as a friend compare to losing her as a friend and at the same time losing your money too. If she can not pay you, you will end up fighting so save at least your money.
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
17 Jul 12
You're right there, as a friend they should also understand that I am still trying to get back on track. We made some major purchases this year for added income and we have yet to earn it all back. It just saddens me to think that sometimes when money is involved, all friendship seems to get thrown out the door.
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
Be wary on so called friends. In the end, it will be you who will be suffering. Not to be selfish but most of the times, you have to please no one else but YOU.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
5 Feb 13
Many times, it would really depend on the situation, and what they are really needing it for. And would the person pay you back if you lend it to them, and what if it was you? There are a lot of people out there who do not know how to plan and budget so many times things like this happen and it makes you wonder. But if it was someone really genuine who needed money, I might help them out a little but usually not the Full amount.
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
23 Feb 13
Usually I will lend some money on the first instance, but only as to how much I am comfortable to lend. Then if the person is true to word and pays me back, he or she can borrow again. But if that person never paid me back, suffice to say that there will be no repeats.
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
I dont lend money to friends, honestly, i give help/assistance/financial or what others calls it. I dont have that much money but the routine is i help them whatever i can.
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
17 Jul 12
Me too. Usually, I learned to lend or give assistance to friends with the amount that I wouldn't miss in case I never see it again. Sad to say that amount isn't acceptable for them. :(
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
But we did help, for me it is what counts, and i never fail to tell them that what i have given them -- my wife does not know.
@moneywinner (1864)
• Brazil
3 Aug 12
I would just say that I don't have the money and don't mention the subject anymore. The worst thing is to lend some money when you don't want to, because the friend can take time to pay you back and this can be very stressfull. I only lend money when I know that the amount won't make any difference for me otherwise I prefer not, of course, if it's my best friend or my sister, I would lend even if I was already made plans to the money.
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
3 Aug 12
Well, that's just the thing; I can only lend her this certain amount of money but no, she won't have it. She wants me to lend her the amount that she wants or needs. It's all or nothing for her. Outrageous!
• Valdosta, Georgia
17 Jul 12
We have let plenty of people borrow money in the past. We have had to learn the hard way that most likely they will never pay it back. We love helping people and we do it all the time. But if we are struggling really bad we just have to say no. We feel terrible saying no but there are times when you have to put yourself and your family first. Sometimes you just have to say I'm sorry we can't help right now. It kills us saying this to anyone but we cannot go hungry or not pay bills because of helping others because when we need help no one is there to help us...
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
17 Jul 12
My sentiments exactly, you hit it, when we are the ones who needed some financial help, it's so hard for us to look for someone willing to lend us some. We do understand because times were really hard and we just have to move on and make do with what we have. Now that we are slowly getting back on our feet, I never wanna be in that situation again so we save as much as we can so when that time of extreme necessity comes we can have something to use and not to be expectant of other's generosity, when in fact there's really nobody that we can expect help from.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
17 Jul 12
Actually, I also have this kind of problem. How to say no to people who said they need my help. It's really hard for me because I am just a kind-hearted person. Most of the time, this is being taken advantage of many. Cash, credit card, I once lend it to my friends. So, I realized that I should not allowed this thing to happen again. What I did is, I leave my credit card at home and I only bring an exact amount of money whenever I go to work. This way, I will not be telling lies when they asked me if I have extra or credit card which they could borrow. This is also another way of saving on my part.
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
17 Jul 12
Oh yes, I've heard of that, people who likes to ride on someone else's credit card and then they will just pay you back. More often than not they will pay you in installment while you, on the other hand, will be presented with a credit card bill for the whole amount. Now the burden of paying it, or suffering the extra charges, rests on you, the kind-hearted soul who just helped out. So not fair.
@sbucu57 (55)
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
Good morning Raine38. You really are indeed a very kind hearted person based on the discussion thread that you had started. It really is very hard to say no if that would mean being able to help others who are in need. I have always believed that lending money requires trust. Trust that the money borrowed will be use for good use and that it will be returned in full. Even banks give fees when it comes to credit cards and loans, I presume so that money borrowed will be paid on time. I am not saying that you should do just that but I cannot see the harm in telling this person ,wether it be a relative or a friend to stop hounding you for cash when you do not have it. You can try giving this person an ultimatum. Tell this is only the amount you can loan and you require to have it paid on this particular time.But if you really do not have enough money, then nobody can pressure you to do it. Bad mouthing you to other people is just a waste of time but if that is what he will do,then it turned out that helping this person had been a waste of your precious time. I hope this helps. Blessings to you and your family !
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
18 Jul 12
Thanks for replying sbucu. Nah, I don't think I'm really that good, I'm just another friend who wants to do the right thing here. But thanks for thinking of me in that light. Anyway, she seems not to take no for an answer. Besides, all these communication over her desire to borrow money is happening over Facebook messages. I don't think it's that proper (?) given the amount of money involved. I'm not saying I don't believe her, but I sure want to re-establish our connections and friendship once more and re-know her all over again if I can and will be able to lend her what she needs. It's been decades since we last spent some time, and a person can change drastically over that period, plus she has gotten married and I also don't know who her husband is. I think it's important for friends to also know their own friends' spouses. Well, I have told her in the nicest way I know how that I can only help this much, and if she can't take it, then I don't think I can help her. Now I just see if somehow she begins to see from where I'm coming from.
@fencer07 (98)
17 Jul 12
Unfortunately, I am the kind of person who would lend the money even if I knew I would not get it back, especially if it was to a very good friend or family member. Would your friend really ask to borrow this money if he did not need it badly? I always ask myself if we switched places and I was the one in need, would I expect my friend to help me. For me the answer would be yes. Perhaps if your friend is in enough trouble to need your entire savings, you can offer to help him look into getting a loan from a bank. Or you can offer to review his finances with him and see where he can be saving money that he can put towards the amount he needs.
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
18 Jul 12
My mom taught me to lend money that I am comfortable not seeing again. That way, I wouldn't feel slighted should my friend failed to return the money, and I wouldn't suffer financially because of the loss. And yes, I want to help out friends as much as possible because like you, I am hoping that if I ever be in need like them, someone will also trust me enough to help me out.
• Philippines
3 Apr 13
Hi Raine38. I've learned that you can only lend money that you can afford to lose or don't need (Extra). People who borrows money whether they're your direct family, friends, co-worker, relative or in-laws and strangers most likely can't pay it back on time or not at all. It might break the relationship if they've failed to return what they owe if you need that cash as well especially when emergency arises and they still can't pay back. It's a "No" if you can't manage to handle the situation if they can't return it. You just explain to them and say sorry that you're in a tight budget. It's not being selfish but being true to yourself and to them. You can also think that it's better to help than to ask help. The answer will depend on you. For me, I've learned better to say "No" since I don't have extra for now.
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
3 Apr 13
Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes, I think you're right. We shouldn't let them dictate how much we should lend them, if ever we really do want to help out, we can only give them the amount of money that we will not really miss. I say give, because more often than not, it will never be returned, or it will be a long time before we see it again.
• India
12 Mar 13
Thanks for this discussion, i have stopped lending money , be he a friend or relative, money causes enmity in the long run; so if i feel the person is needy, i give money and tell; 'please keep it, never return it .
@natliegleb (5175)
• India
26 Aug 12
i really hate those kind of people,if they are able to give it back to us,they are certainly good and nice people,but if they take away from us ,its really horrible
@jricky1 (6800)
• China
18 Jul 12
I would see that whether this friend is good of mine and also trustful.Everyone may occur troubles and need the help to go through.So we should help and encourage,but honestly,i will lend half of the money but not all.Still,i need money to go through my life.
@arizen (152)
• Philippines
17 Jul 12
I understand how you feel. As you have said, your friend constantly waits around to borrow money. Let him down easy. Because as soon as you let him borrow money, you are tolerating him once again. By conditioning him that he cannot borrow money from you anymore, he will gradually take that conditioning response.
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
17 Jul 12
Sometimes I run out of excuses. I really don't have the capacity to lend money to anybody at this point. But when these people start hounding on you, like when you just had a haircut or ate out, they will point it out to you and say you can afford something like that and immediately deduce that you can well afford to spare them some money, it's a bit frustrating.
@roshigo58 (4859)
• Pune, India
1 Mar 13
Hi, If you have enough money and your friendship is true and if your friend is trustworthy then you should help your friend. Because she is trouble or in need. Friend in need is friend indeed. But some friends are selfish. they are friends only for the advantage. I have some bad experience of lending. I had lent some amount to one of my friend. He promised me to repay it in two months. But he didn't returned it in time. I waited for one year. After that I asked to repay the money. He felt insulted and break the friendship. Si I think that if your friend is trust worthy then you should help her . But after some experiences I think that if you lend, you either lose the money or gain an enemy.
@kongno (431)
• Philippines
10 Sep 12
i lend money to a true and very close friend only, but i set a rule to myself to help up to 2 times only, after that i'm preparing to have all the excuses i know not to lend her/him anymore , i don't want to have an obligation to help even my friend financially, and i don't want to be worthless friend too so i help him/her but with limitations, and sometimes i just fraction of the amount of the money that my friend is borrowing from me...