Any reason Not to Be Christian? Really? ( a mini rant)

United States
August 6, 2012 11:39pm CST
I think I was told that I was too stupid to be a Christian! Why? I honestly said I don't understand scriptures. To me it is All pretty riddles. They make no sense so I assume they are not meant for me! This is when I say Thank G-d I am not Christian! So instead of being insulted, I was puzzled. Does a Christian Have to Know All the Scriptures to be deemed a true Christian? Is there an I.Q. test? I didn't think so. What do you think? Can a person be a true Christian Without understanding the meaning behind the scriptures? Your thoughts.
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• United States
7 Aug 12
This is a situation that's not going to come out making me look good in the eyes of some, but here goes. I personally believe that anyone who does not become a Christian (accept God's gift of salvation and make Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior) is stupid. Therefore, I suppose I agree that some people are too stupid to be a Christian. That doesn't mean they're too stupid to understand God's plan of salvation. It means that because they reject it, I think that's a stupid act. Some might say, "How can you say that when there are so many religions vying for mankind's attention and devotion, and many of them are more appealing than what Christianity offers?" My response: You might like what some of the other religions want you to believe, but what is their evidence that they're from God and not just the imagination of mankind? I say test the scriptures of all the various religions and you'll see that only the Bible has both the spiritual and physical evidence that verifies that it's God's Word. When the evidence is there, it's stupid to ignore it.
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@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
7 Aug 12
Do you read The Holy Quran ?
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• United States
7 Aug 12
No! What evidence can the Quran provide that it's the Word of God?
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@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
7 Aug 12
Do you judge it that it is not from God without being read? Read the Quran translator (though it will not be as read in Arabic to feel its own strength and beauty ) .Then ask me about what you want from the questions , if you need to ask
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@mr_pearl (5037)
• India
7 Aug 12
Hi... I'm not Christian, but I've friends who are Christians... We don't really pay attention to it... I am sure, none of us have ever read holy scripts, because we had to.. I read Ramayana, because I want to- I simply love it... Ramayana is a holy book in Hinduism... The point is, it does not really matter... Has someone said anything to you? There're religious maniacs everywhere... Did you meet with such a fanatic? Just ignore such people Sarah, they don't really matter....
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• United States
7 Aug 12
Hi Bhai! Is Ramayana the story of Ram and His wife? If so I read a synopsis of the story. It is so beautiful. I will ignore him Thanks.
@mr_pearl (5037)
• India
7 Aug 12
Oh yes, Ramayana is all about Ram and his wife... It is beautiful and simple story... It is full of extremely good things & extremely bad things too... It narrates different aspects of human personalities... I've read it like a thousand times.. My point is, I did not read coz I'd to; I did it because I like it, I wanted to read it.... Thats what is religion all about... It is good to ignore such maniacs, behen... It won't do any good to argue with a religious maniac... Take care...
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• United States
7 Aug 12
Thank Bhai.
@MissPiggy (1751)
• Indonesia
7 Aug 12
Can I join? I'm not a Christian, I'm Muslim. I can read the Holy Qur'an (as it is written in Arabic script) but I can't memorize the whole Book. But it doesn't make me stupid about the religion. At least I know the rules. I know it's better to have the understanding about the Book, but if we don't have the faith, then it's also useless. I think it's also about me and God. So I think it's not about what religion we choose, it's about the faith we have to the Mighty God. That's my opinion.
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• United States
7 Aug 12
Ramadan Kareen! I didn't know you were Muslim! Is the Quran written in a poetic style or is it just plain prose? The problem with the Bible , especially the New Testament,is that it is written so beautifully that is goes straight over my head. It makes me feel happy I am not Christian. As a Jew it is so much simpler! The Bible are stories to explain this one premise. The Golden Rule.I know G-d knows me and Who I am and that Jesus Knows I'm No Christian and All of this has Nothing to do with being able or not being able to read the scriptures.
@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
7 Aug 12
sarah Qur'an is not poetry or prose, but it is the word of God Almighty ,it words powerful, as he came down the center of people who have power of language and rhetoric, a miracle of Muhammad the rest , Quran with of his music and enters the heart and words convincing .. Did not distort like the previous books because God promised to save it from corruption .. the scientific miracles in the Quran you'll find it in many verses , you can try read in Quran , you will find it very different . God bless you
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@MissPiggy (1751)
• Indonesia
7 Aug 12
@Sarah: Samar has explained it to you. She's right, Qur'an is the words from God (we call Him ALLAH). It's a collection of His firms to us the Muslims, the rules of what must and mustn't do. It's a collection of prayers. I don't know how to explain it better, I hope you catch it right, but if we have certain wish, we can read certain verse from the Qur'an and then mention our wish. It will be more powerful. I hope I explain this correctly so you won't misunderstood. It's always not easy to explain something when it comes to religion. I think the way we read certain verse for certain wish is the same. I mean, my uncle is a Christian, and he is very obedient one. He prays every night before bed by reading the Bible. I see that he has certain pages that he will read before he continues reading last verse he reads.
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@mythociate (13827)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
7 Aug 12
I know many who are too stupid to be Christian ... of course, most of them say they are Christian. And first we need to be clear on the definition of "stupid." To me, being 'stupid' is 'assuming you know the truth (when you really don't).' See, Christians know a truth that makes any other 'truth' meaningless to them. Of course, that truth 'does not apply' (or 'doesn't hold true') within human reason---which is one of the reasons G-d says (to Job), "My reason is beyond your reason." But human reason doesn't apply outside of the bounds of existence/non-existence ...
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• United States
7 Aug 12
Thanks. You just described him! He assumed I believed what he did and the scriptures proved it. Well, All passages are riddles so I assumed he could explain them in layman's . But he didn't. Now I see he couldn't.
@bestboy19 (5482)
• United States
8 Aug 12
Mythociate, Sarah's discussion "Christians I Need Your Help Again," page 3 number 21 is what she is talking about, if you're interested in what caused this discussion.
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@mythociate (13827)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
9 Aug 12
Thank you, bestboy19; but she stated it generally enough that I bet it's a common occurrence. I think I explained pretty-much every disagreement between Christians and reasonable people. Although Christians try to tie-into reason, their main reason still remains '`coz Mommy/Daddy/Pastor/everybody-at-church says this is how it is.'
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@Paper_Doll (2376)
• Philippines
7 Aug 12
In my opinion, the bible is there for us to read because it says a lot of things about God and His plans and purpose for us. It is like buying a new gadget and you are provided with a user or guide manual so you will know how to use that gadget properly. I think that the bible is provided for us for the same reason. It is for our own good that God has given us the scriptures to help us use and cope with our lives properly and accordingly. Because of some reasons, many people think that reading the bible is for church leaders only. It is not. It is the Word of God and was intended for all of us. Some thinks that it is only them who would understand the bible which created a thought that it is hard or even impossible for us regular people to understand them. But it is not. We can actually understand it if we would only try. It is strongly suggested that we should read the bible because this will make us understand so many WHYs about our lives and this can make us closer to God. It is like reading a biography of someone. By reading it, you are likely to know him better. But I don't think that it is right to be called as stupid because you don't understand the scriptures. Reading the bible would really take a while and understanding it would take time and efforts. But it is all worth it. A true Christian has to read the bible and apply its teachings. I think that the person you mentioned above is not actually applying what he has read. The bible does not teach people to be that way and so he does not reflect a true Christian behavior or traits. I am so sorry that you have to experience that. The bible itself said that some people would pretend to be Christian and would try to draw/direct others to the wrong path so we should also be careful because there are many of them. Some uses religion to earn or gain for their own advantages. A true Christian reflects Jesus Christ characters and traits. If they would only use bible to tell others that they are better than them, I don't think that they should be called as Christian. So don't believe in that person. He has his own issues to be resolved and so he is not qualified to teach you what is wrong and what is right.
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@bestboy19 (5482)
• United States
8 Aug 12
"I don't think that it is right to be called as stupid because you don't understand the scriptures." And Paper_Doll, I don't think it's right not to know the whole story, so go to Sarah's discussion, "Christians I need you help once again," page 3 number 21. Whatever you want to think of me afterwards, so be it, but I am not ashamed of anything I said.
• United States
9 Aug 12
And neither am I!
@Fulltank (2896)
• Philippines
7 Aug 12
That's what Bible studies do, to understand the Bible more clearly. I too is a Christian and oftentimes attend to Bible studies to enhance my faith. If I read the Bible and there are passages that I don't understand or apprehend, i would seek the help of a Bible scholar here in our community church. There's nothing wrong with it and I think it would be better than trying hard to explain something that I cannot comprehend.
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• United States
7 Aug 12
I guess if I were interested I could do it. But in this case All I said was Bible Passages are all riddles to me . After that I thought this christian could translate the passage he sent into layman's English but instead he implied I was too stupid to be a Christian. So I took it as a reason Not to even try! Besides , I know Jesus Knows I'm not Christian!In other words I could learn how to decode the riddles and Still not feel connected to it. It was just shocking that this person either couldn't explain the Word or assumed Everyone could read it.
@bestboy19 (5482)
• United States
8 Aug 12
Fulltank, here is the discussion Sarah is talking about. http://www.mylot.com/bestboy19
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@bestboy19 (5482)
• United States
8 Aug 12
Sorry Fulltank, that link doesn't get you to the discussion. Go to page 3 number 21. of "Christians I Need Your Help." I think you have the right to know the whole story.
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• United States
14 Aug 12
I personally traumatized by the interpretations my family took on the Bible and have distanced myself because of this. I read the Bible on my own and let God judge me, not other judge me or take demons out of me whenever I did something of their liking. Example, my mother told me to have an abortion since I got pregnant when I was 17. Twisted interpretation to say the least of my child's life versus her embarrassment to her reputation in the church. I disagreed and had the child even though they literally pulled me down stairs casting demons out of me if I didn't succumb to an abortion or be sent out of the country to relatives where they could give my child for adoption. My daughter is nine now and I love her so much. I do not love my mother except for giving birth to me. I say those people are users and abusers of the scripture and I do not condone it.
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• United States
14 Aug 12
The moment she chose her reputation over you she gave up the privilege to be called a mother. She is just a birth " Mother"! She had no right to tell you to have an abortion! To many who know me will be shocked that I said this. I'm your polar opposite I would have chose an abortion and tell Anyone who will listen I'm pro choice. But many forget is that the key word is Choice!So believe me when I say I'm glad you kept your daughter and I Know you are a better mom than the birth " mother" Thanks for your response. Take Care.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
10 Aug 12
I don`t think you are too stupid to be a christian, i think the only problem is that you consider yourself smarter than you are.
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• United States
10 Aug 12
Who me? No! I'm just me. Some may say I'm smart but I am not one of them!
@ram_cv (16516)
• India
7 Aug 12
I do not think any one can be stupid for a religion. Religion is about living life and that means there is no IQ test or stuff like that. But just what will you do. One need not know the scriptures and that is why the priests and pastors are to help people understand these scriptures!! So for me this really does not make much sense. Cheers! Ram
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• United States
7 Aug 12
Thanks Love.
@isohyeoh (223)
• Philippines
7 Aug 12
... being a Christian means a follower of Christ. If one is a follower of Christ, he should walk on Jesus' ways. How can one be a follower of Christ if he doesn't even know anything about the person he's following? It's common sense.How will one know the taste of an apple if he refuse to taste it? The scriptures will tell you about the greatest man in history. If you follow the greatest man in history, what will become of you? Even my community of Christians,when they read the bible, they didn't understand it the first time. That included me. But as we read every verse, they became meaningful and each time we reread them, they talk to us. The WORD is alive. I know you won't be able to understand me this time. You will if you seek Jesus (Mat. 6:33).
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