Discussions of old members

@ravisivan (14055)
India
September 21, 2012 2:46pm CST
I am surprised to find that the responses of a new member -- who joined -- three/four days back only are missing. I found that name is not in the friends list also. That means the membership has been cancelled by the member or the account deleted by the admin. In case the member has closed the account of his own then it is fine. Otherwise the causes or the reason for account deletion can be given as mylot alert so that other members can follow the guide lines. I am aware we are supposed to go through the guidelines fully. Similarly in respect of deletion of discussions -- reason is given to the member who has started the discussion but it is not mentioned in the mails sent to other members who have posted responses which are deleted. This can also be done for awareness of members. What are your views members in this regard? pl share your views.
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@jaiho2009 (39001)
• Philippines
22 Sep 12
hello ravi, Being an old member is not a guarantee that he/she won't commit mistake. I have seen old members whose topic got deleted due to guideline violation. It's not their intention anyway - no one wants his/her topic to be deleted especially with great number of responses.
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@SIMPLYD (84506)
• Philippines
22 Sep 12
I agree Jaiho. I for one have experienced it once. My discussion was deleted, because i think the title was in a manner of asking that could be answered by yes or no. Thus, it's a poll and got deleted. Though, i think, Mylot notifies the respondents to that discussion that it was deleted.
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
22 Sep 12
jaiho: yes. even experienced members commit mistakes sometimes. there are so many active members. amidst them if a topic is not a siginificant one then no problem. But if the topic is a sensitive or interesting one it may be seen by many members. jaiho--again you have changed avatar. good.you want all the members to be vigilant to recognise you in different photos. good day.
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
22 Sep 12
SIMPLYD Yes. whenever a discussion is deleted the member gets a response, of course with the reason being cited. one of my discussion on internet browsers was deleted for the same reason. similarly whenever a response is deleted also we get a notification -- this time stating that the original question was deleted.
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@deazil (4547)
• United States
22 Sep 12
Hello ravi, I have had a few responses deleted due to the discussion being deleted. And I think it would be nice if the reason for discussion deletion was given in the email notification (to the responder). There was one that I couldn't figure out why it was deleted even after going over the guidelines several times. I think it's a good idea to print the guidelines and keep them handy for reference. For me it's easier to look them up that way. I did notice a new member the other day that had created many discussions. I thought it might be a good idea to wait on responding to any of them. I wonder if it's the same member.
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
22 Sep 12
deazil thanks for agreeing with my view. Again many members feel it is not required. views differ. True nowadays deletion of discussions is less according to me --it may be because i respond in a few discussions or number of such deletions has come down considerably because members follow the guidelines.
@deazil (4547)
• United States
22 Sep 12
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@mysdianait (64058)
• Italy
21 Sep 12
I do not think that we need to know why a user either left or had their account deleted by admin. I think that what we should do is be more careful about who we add as friends We can follow the rules regardless of what others do surely? The Terms are they for each one of us to read and it is each individual who is responsable for what they do. If you are observant youwill also be able to recognise when users are new or just re-newed. Sometimes banned users rejoin and repeat the offences that caused them tolose their previous account and admin sees to it that they don't stay long. We don't need those who bend the rules here surely? The Guidelines are clear, at least to those who take the time to read them, and we can then easily be aware of where not to respond and which topics not to start, without needing to know the reason that a topic was removed. We would know beforehand if we are aware of the Guidelines.
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@Hatley (164471)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Sep 12
hi diana need shoulder to cry on no really I d o not as I have only myself to blame but after 35 responses I went to comment on the last one and my response just sat there. then I thought will maybe it already went through so checked started and no its no longer there. Ishould never have made it but I triedc to be careful I did not name names but somehow some people decided I was wrong and reported it for flaming or some such thing.I did not see it as flaming but I suppose it could engender flaming. so oldcer now wiser I guess although I feel stupid. I just saw a resp;onse that was unkind and built my discussion on we should all of us never assume things about a fellow user. this one responder really was good at underhanded insulting without making it too obvious. what I should have done was to report the response and not dared to touch a discussion about it as I must have been too brash. I just feel bad for all who resp;onded and lost their earnings. so learn from my errors and move on I g uess.
@mysdianait (64058)
• Italy
21 Sep 12
I am curious who is the new member that you are concerned about ravi. Whoever it was, admin has decided that we are better off without them and once again I am pleased to see that myLot care.When they ban a user it is for the benefit of the site and all of the users too.
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
21 Sep 12
Hatley aunty: Please do not worry about it too much. We will earn in future discussions. At the same be happy one your discussions is high rated discussion yesterday. smiling...yes. good.
• India
22 Sep 12
Ravi, sad to hear that a new member lost his account here. May be he did some violation and system removed the account. Admin is not the reason for all account deletions, some accounts are cancelled by the system itself due to the violations, i think mylot programming engineers created a program to the system to bear a limited number of violations, if the violation crossed the limitation the system itself ban the account. As you know 2 of my previous accounts are deleted from mylot, i send a message to admin to know the reason, but the admin replied that he don't know about the reason as well as he don't deleted my account, it is banned by the system itself. For deleted topics, only the topic creator have the ability to know the reason, if the re-pliers also come to know about the reason for the deletion, it will be more useful
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
22 Sep 12
Vidhyaprakash: I am sorry two of your accounts were deleted. You may be right that it is done by the computer based on program made. Then it become objective. Computer will not know A or B or C but go by the instructions given to it. I think your courier company works on Saturdays also? Here in Canada-- they collect the courier letters on saturdays and sundays but send them only on Monday to other destination. They have a system of collecting the post and not saying no on saturday and sunday also.
• India
22 Sep 12
yes, Saturday is working day for us, but Sunday is compulsory holiday as we need a day to spend with family members
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• United States
23 Sep 12
I assure you I am not a computer program.
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@flowerchilde (12547)
• United States
24 Sep 12
Yes, it is a mystery when someone disappears, or we get a deletion of a discussion notification. I think I must be a cynic, because often I suspect underhanded behavior that someone has not liked someone's opinions and so did a reporting. If so, that is too bad and kind of grade school.
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
24 Sep 12
I do not suspect anything. things happen as they are destined to. let us accept what comes. Deletion takes place with or without other members reporting because admins do read our discussions/responses/ comments. Let us treat all members as our friends and if they report it is for good.
@ravisivan (14055)
• India
24 Sep 12
This member not appearing gained my attention because the member was very very active -- posting 100+ responses in a day and the member was a new member.
@Hatley (164471)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Sep 12
hi ravi a newmember making 100 plus responses in a day, is that not a bi unusal if the person is like most also holding down a job?as in one hundred one line worthless responses they would get deleted and the person might have got banned.quality over quantity has always been mylots aim.
@kiran8 (15399)
• Mangalore, India
22 Sep 12
Ravi,I too have had many such friends who simply vanish .In fact I am thinking of cleaning up my friendlist and getting rid of the names of all those who are gone. There was a member who was banned once and then kept coming back in different forms each time to get banned again...Mylot team is doing a great job in keeping this site clean and free of spam and we should be happy about it , all the best and have a great weekend
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
22 Sep 12
KIRAN Yes. probably spamming may be a violation some of the deleted members were doing. I am not aware of the name you are mentioning. I have heard from Vidhyaprakash about his account. yes, periodically we should go through the friends list and revise it.
@kiran8 (15399)
• Mangalore, India
22 Sep 12
I am sure it is something like that...I am not aware of vidyapraksh's account, did something happen ? The member I mentioned about must have been before you came here ,more than 3 years ago I suppose , not sure though..
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@mysdianait (64058)
• Italy
22 Sep 12
ravi there are many reasons why accounts are banned, spamming, plagiarising, multiple accounts and trolling being some of them. We will never know, unless those users are our friends and they inform us or we happen to see for ourselves when they are abusing mylot and then see that they are gone.
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@missjahn (4578)
• Philippines
22 Sep 12
hello sir ravs... hmmmm.... good of you that you are aware of your friends lost membership in here :D someone good as a special friend already? what about if i may lost my name in here too, would you be aware of that also. maybe you can know the main reasons why that person leave in few days starting of today. take care sir ravs :)
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
22 Sep 12
missjahn why should your name be lost? in case you want to close this account then it is ok? i will get to know because when I may not have the name of deleted member in the list of friends. I do not know the reasons. perhaps violation of guide lines may be the reason. hope you are doing well in studies also.
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@missjahn (4578)
• Philippines
1 Oct 12
hello there sir ravs if the reason why their account was deleted because committed violation, whew, that violation is so tough to consider that it had to end that way. ahm, my name would be lost, maybe because am gonna delete it, whoa! but i believed that its them who deleted their accounts like that, that is their names were gone in the wind. for whatever reasons too, like you, i am not certain of... yes, thanks i am doing well with my studies and you take care too. God bless
@varier (5699)
• Indonesia
24 Sep 12
Rather than giving reason of deletion of specific member, I think it's better to provide information about "the most frequent reasons about why members get banned". It can be an useful information for newbie. Anyway, even if a member got banned, I think they would still on your friend list.. It just you can't view their profile no longer.. Although I am tired already to give any suggestion for myLot. None of them are actually being realized so far.. :p
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
24 Sep 12
Yes. With a view to achieving this one or two discussions have been started recently by our friends -- which state what are the things we should do as member and we should not do as member. Also there is another discussions on what are the changes you want in mylot..... good day
@Jshean20 (14367)
• Canada
22 Sep 12
That's too bad if a new member lost their account, especially if they didn't intentionally do something wrong. I think that because the guidelines are so important, mylot should set up a little "test" that we need to pass before we can start posting. I'm not talking about a hard exam here, just something to test whether or not we've read the terms.
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
22 Sep 12
jehean You are from Canada. perhaps you have a lot of time to spare ( Canada is the third largest country in the world in terms of area!).How many discussions of yours were deleted in the recent last two / three months? how many responses were deleted during this period?
@alberello (4755)
• Italy
21 Sep 12
Well, I believe that here on Mylot, as on any website where you register, shall be subject to the rules to be observed, ie the classic netiquette. On Mylot are precisely the Guidelines that each member is required to read and especially to put them into practice. In fact, the page on precisely the Guidelines is divided symmetrically into two. - What should I do - What not to do Everything is explained very clearly. Of course I can understand that sometimes it is not easy to comply with all rules to the extreme, but to avoid cancellations of our discussions, our task is therefore not to violate these rules.
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
22 Sep 12
alberello: thanks for your response. yes, you seem to believe that members should taken responsibility in reading the guidelines and following the same fully. you are right guide lines tell us what a member should do and should not do. For example just now i received a notification a discussion on buying a laptop for $100 was deleted. I am unable to understand the reason-- was it due to repetition or not a relevant one.
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@Mickie30 (2633)
21 Sep 12
Yeah I know what you mean. I do think we need to be careful when adding people to our friends. I get lot's of friend requests from people who have only just joined and have no feedback, but I also like to give people the benefit of the doubt. You would not like it to join a site and then find nobody wants to be a friend. It's important that older members look after the new ones.
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
22 Sep 12
Mickie: yes. i now feel we should accept friend request from people who are interested in continuing as member. In this case what had happened is a mystery,
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@Hatley (164471)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Sep 12
hi ravi that does make one wonder if the member was quite new as we do not know if he or she just decided to leavebut no wait. the new memers responses do not go away if the member just choose to close her or h is account so the member must have got in trouble. we would help if we also were given the same informatin. alas Ravi I really goofed and my last discussion has disapperared. I have not r recived the notifcatin yet but I had tried to post a last comment and my comment never posted.I looked under tab yourstartedand its not there. feel bad not for me b ut all 35 myloters who responded to me. I grantyou I had a bad feeling when I started it and should have erased and started some thing different. I will feel better when I know for sure what rule I broke. I would like to know why discujssions I have lost resp;onsed on were deleted sol I co uld be more careful myself .
@mysdianait (64058)
• Italy
21 Sep 12
I saw your topic yesterday but didn't get any further than the notifier as I was involved elsewhere at the time. I didn't see how it evolved but I do remember thinking at the time that it was not like your ususal topics and that simething must have upset you to have made a discussion about it. Another lesson learnt I guess and I'm sure you will find more topics that will stay up, just like you usually do
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@ravisivan (14055)
• India
21 Sep 12
Hatley aunty: Yes., I think I also responded in that discussion not once but a few times. The concerned member also responded. pl do not worry aunty.
• United States
21 Sep 12
I'm sorry Hatley I just wanted to respond on that one because you sounded upset. I don't mind if I resonded and now it is gone
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• Thailand
21 Sep 12
Well it is quite alarming!, but we are aware of the rules and regulations of this site so i guest there is no need to worry sir. If ever the admin have deleted the accounts or response of the offender, i think we don't have to know the reason why specifically, it has clearly stated in the regulation that account will be deleted for violation of rules.
@ravisivan (14055)
• India
21 Sep 12
Gracia: welcome to mylot. I am not sure whether you were having mylot account earlier. it is because you have given response with more clarity and understanding. I am not worrying. Once my discussion was deleted and the reason -- contest or poll like discussion was given in the email sent to me. I thought if this is known to others also --they may remember the nature of discussion I started and the reason for deletion.
• Thailand
21 Sep 12
Oh well, Thanks i was also a newbie but i think i understood the rules very well. Some other new member probably violated the regulations because they did not too time to read the FAQ. Sorry to know about the deletion on one of your discussion. :(
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@silverfox09 (4727)
• United States
25 Sep 12
Not everyone stick around after couple days , I see i have friends that only made 10 post then missing in action but maybe they will come around . If they delete their name maybe they will rejoin at a later time when thy have time or something .
@ravisivan (14055)
• India
25 Sep 12
silverfox: It is because of expectations. Some people want to earn very much in one day. Mylot is a place that cannot give money more than what it can. Also it is not right for us to expect it to give more than what it can. So they come stay here for a day or two find they earn in cents while they want in dollars and also they get some other job or other interesting things and they go away. I consider this a pastime for me to spend sharing knowledge, ideas, experiences and also earn some amount.